Super Rip - X

I got two questions about the super rip feature on the X-Fi XtremeMusic:
. Is it possible to rip CDs into MP3 format while retaining the 24-bit/CMSS 3D enhancements? (I have an iPod so converting to WMA is useless to me)
2. I got an error message while using Rip (Not Super Rip) saying my CDROM doesn't support digital ripping. The thing is I've had no problem digitally ripping using other programs. Is there any way to fix this problem?Message Edited by Darklord250 on 0-3-2006 04:9 AM

No the superrip enhancements can't be put into MP3 directly, only into WMA or WAV. i know there is a trial mp3 command line converter and player but not sure if the software is commercialy avilable.
By any chance you use deamon tools v4.0.0. I only asked (may not be the same problem i had) because when i had version v4 installed it gave me that error about cd rom not supporting digital ripping but changing to version 4.03 solved the problem for me (only mentioning this but may not be the same problem i had).
Message Edited by Stargazer on 0-3-2006 05:00 AM

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Hi guys,
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I'm quite impressed with the way CMSS-3D and 24-bit Crystalizer can upmix lower quality recordings but I'd like the effect to be permanent on some of my existing files. What I would like to do is to resample my existing audio files much in the way super-rip handles the conversion of CD's to WMA. I have not yet found this option or even know if this is possible. I'd appreciate some pointers.
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# SuperRip? allows you to rip your CDs into Xtreme Fidelity quality.
The X-Fi 24-bit Crystalizer and X-Fi CMSS-3D features allow you to "SuperRip" CDs into Xtreme Fidelity quality so you can now enjoy permanently enhanced music instead of low-quality MP3 files!
If previous suggestion didn't help then the only possible is to try, if recording your audio files while playing with these effects applied, using Creative Media Source with recording source select to "What U Hear" can do the job.
.jtpMessage Edited by jutapa on 09-8-2005 07:05 PM

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What about DVD Audio discs? Can I Super Rip these to my PC? I have a number of albums of this format in 5., and it would be great to listen to them on my PC. Does the X-Fi enhance even these?

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hi,
my first post and i hope it's in the right section......
anyways, i've super ripped a cd and i want to burn it cause it sounds better. i select make an audio cd then i drag the songs into the burn list then i click burn now and i select the speed and i start to burn. after that it says an error has occured when converting this file. i super ripped the cd into wma lossless and stuff. there's no errors there so i'm stumped as to why it's doing this.
plz help. thnx

hi,
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anyways, i've super ripped a cd and i want to burn it cause it sounds better. i select make an audio cd then i drag the songs into the burn list then i click burn now and i select the speed and i start to burn. after that it says an error has occured when converting this file. i super ripped the cd into wma lossless and stuff. there's no errors there so i'm stumped as to why it's doing this.
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Originally Posted by lagonauta
You should set your speaker layout to 2.0 on Creative Control Panel and set your game to 5.1/7.1. Some games get their information from Windows, so you would need to also set it to 5.1/7.1.
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John,
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