Superior order in PM

Hai Experts ,
Please let me know when the superior order in PM comes into picture in maintenance order.let me know wher it effects , its functions , usage etc.,
thanks and regards
mahesh

hi
You can refer [SAP HELP|http://help.sap.com/saphelp_erp60_sp/helpdata/en/5b/ae30484b8611d182ba0000e829fbfe/frameset.htm]
regards
thyagarajan

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Hi Experts,
Please explain in brief the scenario of Sub Order concept
I am trying to use this scenario if we couldn't able to perform number of activities which is in Superior order
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And i am changing the date in sub order which is in future (i.e in main order date is 07.06.2014 and in sub order i am chnaging the date is 070.07.2014)
It means further activities i will do in next month date.
Correct if i am wrong
And please explain the effect in report IW49N , Sub Number , Sub Operation , Superior Activity not showing and
Sub Order is showing in Order and my main order showing in Super Order
For Super Order Activity not able to seen.
Please help which report we can refer to check where we can see activities for both orders along with date.
Thanks & Regards,
Abhishek Patel

Assignment between Sub Order & Superior Order is at header level, not at operation level.
Also, functionality of having Sub Order & Superior Order is to have the relationships between the orders which have been created for hierarchical technical objects. IW40 is Multi level list that may show the superior order, but not IW37N / IW37 / IW49 / IW49N.
As mentioned before, you have to develop a custom report.
Hope, cutting the operations in one order & pasting that in another is being done manually. Also, you can see both Superior order & Sub order in IW49N.

Cost not accumulated at superior order

I have created a sub order and closed it.After settlement this cost should flow to the superior order but its not being so.
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Hi
Please check the Settlement receiver in sub order its cost center or Main order number.
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Collective planned order scheduling.
I have been trying to reschedule the superior planned order and i was expecting the lower level planned orders to reschedule based on the superior planned order.
My problem is
when i try to reschedule the superior planned order the system is not rescheduling the lower level planned orders.
For example if i change the basic finish date of superior planned order as 30/09/2014 and reschedule the planned order it is only scheduling the header planned order and the lower level planned order is not scheduling.
Could some one tell me why this is not happenning at planned order level.
As the rescheduling of collective order will work at production order level but for some reason it is not happening at planned order level(as there is no option available to do so).
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Mahee.

Hello Mahee
Please observe that your system is working as designed. Planned orders are scheduled independently, even when they are part of a network/collective order. Note 152319 explains the planned order scheduling in detail and it provides the following information:
* No scheduling of overall networks is executed although a directly manufactured component is assigned.
Note that no scheduling of the overall network is executed for planned orders. For the components requirements dates are determined. In order to cover them, planned orders are created in the next MRP run. Since the requirements are not managed using the exact time, the results of the planned order scheduling and of a scheduling of the overall network of the converted collective order can differ.
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Is there a way to create a corrective work order off a preventive/inspection work order. Or is there a way to indicate that a corrective work order was created from preventive/inspection work order. In addition is there a way to report these changes.
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Mass Realease of Production Order of BOM Item Multi Level

Dear Gruru,
      I have one requirement from client, if i release fert or halb production order then it will relaese all order as per BOM.
how it's possible, what are setting required for this. i used sp proc 52 for all materials in bom. in this some material are serilized & non serilized also.
Please help me,
Best Regards,
Dev

Dear,
I understood that you are expecting the full cycle for special procurement key 52. See the below steps for the same.
1.     For your SFG good you have to set the SPK 52 in MRP 2 material master. This has to done for all SFG goods.
2.     SPRO Settings t code OPJH
If the indicator set and not set ( Collective order with automatic goods movements)
You always set this indicator if you want to treat production orders that are linked to collective orders in the same way with respect to costs as production orders that are not linked to collective orders.
If this indicator is set and if you have used the special procurement key for the secondary requirements of a material to be produced to define that a collective order is generated then there are automatic goods movements between the production orders in a collective order. This means that a subordinate production order delivers the material he produces to stock. At the same time as the goods receipt posting a goods issue posting is made for the superior order. When the goods movement is
posted
costs are credited from the subordinate order
costs are debited to the superior order
If this indicator is not set then, in the case of collective order processing, there are no goods movements between the individual
Production orders. The costs collected for each order are then settled
to the superior order in period-end closing.
These are the main steps if you have any query, donu2019t hesitate to revert.
regards,
ganesh

Issue in settlement of sub orders to WBS Element

Hi Team,
Request your help in getting the below issue resolved:
Our client would like to have the sub order cost details to be settled to the superior order settlement reciever (In our case it is WBS). So we have changed the configuration in the Distribution rule in SPRO to "DIstribution Rule from Main Order". With this change the WBS Settlement receiver is getting populated automatically during release of the sub order. But when we are trying to do the settlement in KO88 we get a message that "Either the order is settled or there is nothing to settle". Please let us know incase of any setting being missed out.
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Priya

by moving thread to forum http://scn.sap.com/community/erp/project-systems or http://scn.sap.com/community/eam may generate favourable replies.
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How to trigger creation of collective orders

Hi,
How to trigger the creation of Collective orders.
regards

Hi,
Collective Orders
Use
In a collective order, planned orders or production orders are linked to one another over several production levels. Each order in the collective order has its own order number. If subassemblies are produced directly for superior orders within a production process, without physically entering the warehouse, it is useful to have a representation via collective orders.
The components for which separate production orders are created in the collective order are called directly produced components (see Creating Collective Orders)
Prerequisites
A collective order cannot be created for components that have one of the following indicators set:
· Co-product
· By-product
· Alternative item with strategy 2
· Alternative item with usage probability 0
· Discontinued
· Follow-up material
· Intra material
Features
Collective orders offer the following advantages:
· Integrated view of a production process
Collective orders make it possible to represent different levels of the production process together in the system. The production process can be viewed as an integrated whole.
· Separate order number for every order
Every level in a collective order represents a separate production order/planned order. Every production order/planned order has its own order number. This enables you to process the entire collective order, a subtree in the collective order or an individual order.
· No placements in storage or removals from storage between production levels
Within a collective order stock movements only take place for the leading order (that is, the order that is at the highest production level) and not for directly produced components. This makes it easier to maintain the collective order in comparison with several individual orders. A further advantage is a more realistic representation of the costs of the production process, since subordinate orders can be directly assigned and settled to superior orders.
· Business functions simultaneously for several orders
Certain business transactions can be carried out simultaneously for several orders. Releasing an order that belongs to a collective order has the effect that all the hierarchically subordinate orders are released simultaneously.
· Automatic change to dependent orders
Changes to an order automatically affect dependent orders / components affecting orders. For example, if you change the order quantity in an order then
¡ the relevant quantity changes are automatically made to dependent orders
¡ the requirements quantity of the directly produced component is automatically changed.
In the collective order, you also have the option of manufacturing directly produced material in a different plant to the planning plant.
· Set status in leading order
If you make changes in subordinate orders that have an affect on the status, then the system sets the corresponding status in the order header of the leading order in the collective order as follows:
u2013 CFCO Confirmation in collective order
u2013 GMCO Goods movements in collective order
u2013 RLNE Release taken place in network
In this way you are informed about changes in the whole collective order.
· Reading master data
You can copy the routing data and BOM data to the order again. You can find more information in Read master data.
Example
You want to produce a pump. The BOM for the pump contains a pressure regulating valve and a spiral casing. You want to enter these two components in separate production orders, but you do not want them to be posted to stock.
You set the special procurement type to direct production in the material master record for the pressure regulating valve and the spiral casing, so that production occurs using a collective order.
When you create a production order for the pump, a collective order is automatically created, which contains subordinate production orders for the pressure regulating valve and the spiral casing.
Creation of Collective Orders
Use
Collective orders are only created if the special procurement type is set to direct production in the components for which the separate production orders are to be created (materials planning area in the material master).
In the standard system, 52 is the special procurement type for direct production (that is, for components that are produced within a collective order).
To create a collective order, you must use an order type with internal number assignment.
Hope this helps.
Regards,
Tejas

Sub Order not getting created

Hi All,
           i am debuggin a code which is creating SUB ORDER (iw36) through call transaction method.
The transaction is filling the superior oder ,but after OK CODE it doesnt navigate to the next screen, instead it shows a message log, without any messages.
In the debugging mode I could notice that it fails at the point where FM CO_ZF_ORDER_LOCK_MULTI is called in SAPLCOIH. The parameter 'NOT_LOCKED' is having 2 records, as a result of which the FM CM_F_ANALYSIS is getting called which displays the log.
Please guide me in understading why the sub order is not getting created.
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Edited by: Vasuki S Patki on Jul 14, 2009 3:03 PM

Hi Gajesh,
1)                 The Work center does not exist , I checked it in IR02..
2)                 I created the sub order manually , but it works fine. There is no error when creating manually.. But whne it is called from the program it takes a wrong entry for Workcenter that does not exist. But when I change it to the existing Workcenter it proceeds further.
3) I want to know where in the program the KTEXT is being populated, as it is taking an entry that does not exist in the superior order, it is a new entry.
Thanks,
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Collective production order---GR/GI problem

Dear guru
My scenerio is collective production order. I have created PUMP header material and 2 component in that component i have maintained 52 special procurment key . and automatically 3 production order are created .
Now I want to create a stock of header material (PUMP) .
Actually I tried through MB31 and I do GR of header material and stock is also created to this material .
but my question is wht about chlid component ? that child component production order is still in MD04 .
so how it will consume . or have i made some mistake or tell me rt. scenerio.of (GR/GI)?

Dear,
GR is done for Main order only and document also post for main order. This is standard SAP funcitionality.
Confirmation is carried out same as normal Production order,
If u do the confirmation for suborder in the collective structure - the automatic goodsmovements taken place between the production orders in collective structure.
Since suborder materail is directly produced , when confirm the "suborder", the produced qty will issued automatically to "superior order".
There is no seperate goods issue is needed for superior order in collective order structure.
After confirming the suborder, u can confirm the superior order, and make GR for finished product.
For above process "Collective order with goods movements" check box should be activated for Order type at OPJH
Hope clear to you.
Regards,
R.Brahmankar

Link of production order

I have created without material production order (100) and put component in production order without any special assignment (STOCK).
This component is subassembly and after mrp planned order will be created for it. This planned order is converted into production order ( 101).
How to find relationship between reservation of production order 100 and production order 101.
I want to use this relationship in development ( abap program)

Mayuresh,
Let us first assume that you are talking about MTO.
Within the planning segment in MTO, all orders will have an account assignment. Assuming that you have one order per planning segment per level of the BOM (this is common, but not mandatory, you will have to see in your business environment if this extent of linkage will be adequate), you can link them using the account assignment (e.g., the sales order/item).
If you are talking about MTS, your requirement cannot be met in all scenarios. It is possible to have one dependent requirement (reservation) from a higher level production order be supported by many planned/production orders (one-to-many). It is also possible to have many dependent requirements supported by a single planned/ production order (many-to-one). Furthermore, as time goes by during the normal life of the superior order (higher level of the BOM), the actual lower level production/planned orders that will end up supporting the reservation WILL CHANGE. There is no hard programmatic linkage.
ECC MRP does not link these items, except logically. Your program is doomed to failure if you attempt to link these two items, and have the linkage be valid in all circumstances.
I have heard this requirement countless times, from users who are used to working in a legacy system that offers fixed pegging. SAP does not use fixed pegging in their standard ECC MRP offering.
If you are doing your planning in APO, then there is hope. APO PP/DS maintains dynamic pegging structures. In this case, at any point in time, you can report which lower level production orders are linked to which higher level requirements. APO changes these relationships automatically as the planning situation changes, but you can still report the new linkages any time you want. APO also offers fixed pegging, in which these relationships, once created, remain fixed until you change them, or until all orders are completed. If you require this type of hard linkage (and trust me, there are disadvantages to using fixed pegging) then you will have to do your planning in APO.
Rgds,
DB49

Wip Calculation in Collective Order

Hello Sap Gurus,
We have created Collective Production orders in which when we are confirming order production will get automatically confirmed as consumption in superior order.
When we are calculating WIP for superior order, it is giving no values.
Can any one tell why this is happening ?

Dear,
You can check the good issue order wise from IW31.
Also refer my reply from these threads,
[Collective order|Re: Collective Order]
[Collective order GI|Re: Collective Order Processing]
Regards,
R.Brahmankar

Sub Order and Super Order - Operations and date in IW49N

Hi Experts,
Please explain in brief the scenario of Sub Order concept
I am trying to use this scenario if we couldn't able to perform number of activities which is in Superior order
I am copiying those activities in Sub Order and deleting those activities from Superior order
And i am changing the date in sub order which is in future (i.e in main order date is 07.06.2014 and in sub order i am chnaging the date is 070.07.2014)
It means further activities i will do in next month date.
Correct if i am wrong
And please explain the effect in report IW49N , Sub Number , Sub Operation , Superior Activity not showing and
Sub Order is showing in Order and my main order showing in Super Order
For Super Order Activity not able to seen.
Please help which report we can refer to check where we can see activities for both orders along with date.
Thanks & Regards,
Abhishek Patel

Sami,
What issue? Those results are perfectly acceptable under certain business scenarios.
Your sched start/finish implies that your routing has no duration being calculated during the schedule process. If this is your issue, look at the various forumulas attached to the scheduling tab of your work center(s)(CR03).
Rgds,
DB49

Collective Order good moviement 101 - 261 ( sub - order )

Dear gurus,
i inserted in the HALB component the special procurement (52) and the Type procurement = E
I created a production order for the Material Fert and the system create a collective order .
Order 0001 for the FERT material and the order 0002 for the HALB material.
When we confim the order 0002 the system don't create a good moviment 101 for the HALB component and the MD04 don't exist . In the production order 0002 the issue quantity is 5 pz but we don't see the stock in the MD04.
I need to have the moviment 101 for the sub order .
How i can have this situation of good moviment ? You can tell me the example of movimentation for the collective order ?
Where we can find the information of this collective order ?
Thanks a lot
Daniele Pistilli
PP TEAM

Dear,
Within a collective order stock movements only take place for the leading order (that is, the order that is at the highest production level) and not for directly produced components. This makes it easier to maintain the collective order in comparison with several individual orders. A further advantage is a more realistic representation of the costs of the production process, since subordinate orders can be directly assigned and settled to superior orders
Hope this will help you.
Regards,
Pavan

User Exit : Auto Release Sub orders

Hello Gurus,
I want to automatically Release the sub orders when superior order is Release.
After I wrote to SCN, I came to know that In Standard, There is no provision to auto release or auto TECO or auto Business completion of Sub Orders based on Superior Order business transaction.
Can some one please correct the exit & condition I selected
On exit IWO10009 when saving the superior order
IF sy-tcode = 'IW32'.
SELECT AUFNR
FROM AFKO
WHERE MAUFNR = caufvd_imp-AUFNR
release_order = 'X'.
ENDIF.
If above exit is incorrect,Can I use Exit IWO10002
If above exit is correct,Can I same to auto Business complete the Sub Orders when Superior Order CLSD
Thanks in Advance
Ashok M

Ashok,
I feel it is not IWO10002 but we need to try with User Exit for IWO10009 for your task. I'm unable to test the solution for you at present.
Clues are:
You need to use Function Module STATUS_CHANGE_INTERN in the Exit coding. The logic would be, when you release the Main Order and Save, system checks the System Status of Main Order, i.e., field CAUFVD_IMP-IPHAS. '2' is the value for REL status.
So the code will be like:
If CAUFVD_IMP-IPHAS = '2' .
CALL FUNCTION 'STATUS_CHANGE_INTERN'
ENDIF.
COMMIT WORK.
In this FM, you will be passing the OBJNR value of SubOrder no. (get from AUFK table) and target status (perhaps I0002). (verify in TJ02 table).
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KJogeswaraRao

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