Suppress PO output in case a PO is updated by a purchase order response

Experts,
we are in SRM 5.0. We are trying to suppress any PO output when a PO is updated by purchase order response. We are experimenting with PO output start conditions (Customizing). No succes until now. We tried to check whether the object status table has status 'Variance in PO response' (I1352). No effect.
Does anybody have a clue or even better, an example, how to achieve this without the use of BADI's or defining any customer fields?
Apparantly when a purchase order is updated via the purchase order response the BBP_DOC_CHANGE_BADI is not triggered, or at least we were not able to debug it, so it looks like this is no option either.
Any suggestions?
Thanks for your help, Maurice de Feijter

Hello Jay, thanks for your suggestion. We are currently implementing SP 14 to 17 in which the note you mentioned is included. Unfortunately PO output is still not suppressed automatically when a PO response is accepted and copied to the PO, even if no content is changed (price, quantity, delivery date ....) .
That is the reason why we were looking for the possibility to use start conditions in customizing. The main problem there it that we do not know how to recognize that a PO change is triggered by the PO response, and how to configure that in a condition. SAP docu does not give any clue.
So, any other suggestion is welcome

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http://i35.tinypic.com/169kwwn.jpg
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