Swollen battery is normal?

Greeting all!
Recently I found the battery of my Macbook Pro is swollen so I called Apple technical service to seek for assistance, the technician told me this is normal as the battery have been used for two years so it is normal for it to be swollen.
I just wondering if this is true? According to my own knowledge a swollen battery is abnormal especially it swollen to being a size that affect the use of track pad as well as changing the shape of the battery cover.
Indeed I purchased a new battery to replace it, however I still wants to found out the truth.
Thanks all!

iVmichael wrote:
It might be common, but it's not 'normal' for a battery to do that. If it swells and damages other components then it's a serious fault with the item ...
Unfortunately, it is normal for lithium chemistry batteries to swell up under certain circumstances that are all too often encountered in normal use. In particular, charging the battery fully while it is hot (like when a laptop is being used) will over time cause it to swell. The same thing can happen if a nearly fully charged battery is left in a hot environment like a car in summer. (See for example this article for a simplified explanation.)
Part of the problem is there is a "sweet spot" temperature range for charging these batteries -- too low a temperature & they won't charge fully; too high, & they will swell. Typically, the range is only ten or twenty degrees, & the optimum charge rate varies a lot over this range, making it nearly impossible to design a charging system that perfectly optimizes battery service life, charging times, & charge levels for every user environment or workflow.
Apple seems to have opted for a bit less service life to minimize the charging time & maximize the average run time between charges, which (all things considered) is probably a pretty reasonable tradeoff.
BTW, if you think I'm just apologizing for Apple, you should know that I found out this stuff the hard way, only after the battery in my 2008 MacBook (which I don't use much) had swollen up enough to interfere with the trackpad's operation & I too had to pay for a new battery. I now know that if I'm not going to use the MacBook for a few days or more, I need to store it with a battery charge of around 50% to optimize its service life, & to be careful about charging it when its hot. Even so, the new battery probably will start to swell after three or four years, no matter how careful I am.

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Wingfield_95 wrote:
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Not true, not true, not true.
You might be able to throw a fit and convince a rep to replace a battery, but that means they're making an exception, NOT covering something that the warranty is supposed to cover.
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The T&C States:
b. Limitations. The Plan does not cover:
[omitted]
(ix) Consumable parts, such as batteries, except in respect of battery coverage under APP for iPod or unless failure has occurred due to a defect in materials and workmanship
{quote:title=Literature at http://apple.com/batteries/notebooks.html also states:}{quote}
Battery Lifespan
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