Sync/Async without BPM

Hello Experts,
Can you please post your experiences on this issue.
I am working on this SYNC/ASYNC scenario.
REQUEST
ABAP Proxy -> PI -> JMS receiver adatper -> IBM MQ
RESPONSE
IBM MQ --> JMS Sender adapter -> JMS receiver adapter
Here it is going into a loop. The JMS sender adapter sends response back to the JMS receiver, but the JMS receiver thinks it is from the source sender SAP and sends it back toe IBM MQ, and this goes into a loop. Meaning, MQ receives this as a new request and proceses it and sends back a new response going into a loop.
The reponse is sent back to the receiver, which is waiting. How does the JMS receiver know the message is a response not from Request. Please post your experiences.
I need to know based on help.sap.com-http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/45/20d2b4c20a0732e10000000a155369/content.htm, the correct Receiver Agreements, and Receiver determinations for this scenario.
Thanks for your answers.
-praveen

Hi Praveen,
This looks straightforward if you are using the sync-async bridge modules.
Sync/Async Bridge in the Receiver JMS Adapter
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_tm70/helpdata/en/45/20d2b4c20a0732e10000000a155369/frameset.htm
Sync/Async communication in JMS adapter without BPM
/people/venkataramanan.parameswaran/blog/2007/01/18/syncasync-communication-in-jms-adapter-without-bpm-sp19
Basically, in one configuration, you use RequestOnewayBean to send a request to your JMS receiver and then wait for a response at WaitResponeBean. In another configuration, where you are sending back a response, you use NotifyResponeBean to send this response back to the waiting call.
Regards, Yza

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