Doubt on Aync-Sync Bridge without BPM

I created a scenario using Aync-Sync Bridge without BPM:
File(Asyn) => Rfc:BAPI_PO_CREATE1(Syn)
1 which mode of message interface should be used in IR for File(Asyn)?
Asyn or Syn?
2 if syn MSG interface should be used in the above question,how can i return BAPI_PO_CREATE1.response which includes PO number to the sender?
BTW:I had maintained the modules and their parameters(AF_Modules/RequestResponseBean and AF_Modules/ResponseOnewayBean)
in RFC CC.
Regards
Ming

Hi,
1) You have to use synchronous interface.
2) There will two message mappings(one request and one response) and one interface mapping between synchronous interface.
3) All the corresponding modules should ve added in File sender communication channel not in RFC CC.
Regards,
Sudheer
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Sudheer

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