Sync keywords?

Hello,
I am new to LR. I believe this is part of the point, but I want to be certain before I undertake the next step of my project.
I have just created a catalog with all of my work over the past 25+ years. The photos themselves are located on an external drive (actually 3 of 'em, but I only will use this drive as my master). I used the Standard Build in my catalog creating a 25gb preview file, which I anticipated after trying different options. However, I have to now apply keywords to this mountain of images.
My first and most important question is this: I am about to travel and while I can work on the computer, attaching the external drive would be cumbersome on a plane. If I apply keywords to the catalog files, will those keywords then be synced to the images on the hard drive when I reconnect the drive to Lightroom?
and that raises a second question: Are the keywords then embedded in the images so that if I create a new catalog on a second computer with the same images now copied from the external drive to that computer, when I create the catalog, will the keywords appear in the new catalog?
Thanks for your assistance on so basic a question!
marc

"If I apply keywords to the catalog files, will those keywords then be synced to the images on the hard drive when I reconnect the drive to Lightroom?"
Yes.
"Are the keywords then embedded in the images so that if I create a new catalog on a second computer with the same images now copied from the external drive to that computer, when I create the catalog, will the keywords appear in the new catalog?"
No. All metadata including keywords is stored in the catalogue (a database) in which you entered it. However, if you want to embed or write the metadata into the images, you need to tell Lightroom to do it - use Metadata > Save Metadata. This includes all IPTC metadata including keywords, and adjustment metadata, but there are things it doesn't include (flags, stacks, history steps...).
But if you want to create a new catalogue on another computer, with the same images, the best way would be to copy the catalogue from the first computer or use options such as File > Export as Catalog which clones the catalogue.
For travelling, there is also the newer option of smart previews. It might be a bit much for you right now (or maybe not - there are plenty of questions more basic than the one you pose!), but I recently travelled and took on the laptop only my catalogue and smart previews for all photos (no standard or 1:1 previews). This meant I could add keywords and other metadata - but I could also make some adjustments to the images and email copies of them, etc. When I returned home, these adjustments would apply to the originals.
John

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Pardon my french, I'm Norwegian... ;-)
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My Lords, Kings and Gurus!
dj_paige and johnbeardy: I'm impressed with your quick and accurate response and I'm grateful for all the help. I hope I have not offended anyone here. In our local photoclub we have one guy that is almost as good as you guys. I don't know him but I think his name is Scott Kel... or somthing like that....
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I don't know the answer. But here's what I do know:
Brainstorming, not well-organized thoughts...:
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