Sync Receiver Step??

Is there a way to send sync via RFC a message to a BPM Receiver Step without using a Sync/Async Bridge? the idea is to catch in R/3 an ABAP Exception if XI is down.

Hi Ruben,
If you are using Sync.RFC then BPM steps will be
steps:
1) Receive the message from R/3 - RFC
2) Transformation(In the Transformation step, you will be having Request Mapping/Response Mapping.)
3) Send - SYnc to JDBC
4) Get the repsonse
5) send(Sync) the Response back to RFC .
Ans also,as your Sender is RFC, no need to create Message Type and Outbound Interface.But you need to create Abstract Interfaces, to use in the BPM.
You need to create one Sync/Inbound Interface for JDBC type.If you are receiving the RFC message directly to BPM, then you need to have Sync,Abstract Interfce
Just have a quick look into this blog for the same:
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/sdn/weblogs?blog=/pub/wlg/1403 [original link is broken] [original link is broken] [original link is broken] [original link is broken]
Go through these links and see if it helps....
Defining Sync/Async Communication
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/43/65d4dab39b0398e10000000a1553f6/content.htm
Example: Sync/Async Communication
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/83/d2a84028c9e469e10000000a1550b0/content.htm
RFC Scenario using BPM --Starter Kit
/people/arpit.seth/blog/2005/06/27/rfc-scenario-using-bpm--starter-kit
Walkthrough with BPM
/people/krishna.moorthyp/blog/2005/06/09/walkthrough-with-bpm
Regards,
Abhy

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Sync/Async Bridge without Asynchronous Send / Receive Steps

Hello together,
we have a synchronous HTTP <--> RFC Scenario using a sync/async Bridge in BPM with the following characteristics:
1. HTTP Payload is received (opens Sync/Async bridge)
2. lookup is done in an LDAP System (we use an UDF here)
3. Customzied JCo is called which takes the XML String as input parameter (done by Java Mapping)
4. Return Value of JCo then is delivered back to HTTP Client (closes Sync/Async Bridge)
--> No RFC Adapter is used here as the provided JCo does all the parsing
When testing the sync/async bridge is started but we receive an timeout after 30 sec.
Could it be that the sync/async required exactly a pair of async send and receive steps (which we do not have in our scenario and which we do not need)?
This would be a problem, as we have to use BPM in this synchronous scenario. Do you have any idea?
Thank you very much for your help.

Thank you for your reply, but I think you misunderstood me. Please let me try to clarify once more:
1. Synchronous HTTP Sender Interface (Request/Response) opens Sync/Async Bridge
2. LDAP Lookup is done by UDF using the Request Message in Transformation Step
3. Switch is done based on result of Lookup
4. Branch 1 in switch calls customized JCo with Java Mapping in Transformation Step (Request Message as input, Response message as output)
5. Response message (delivered from JCo Call) should close the Async/Sync Bridge and be send back to HTTP Sender
--> We have no async send / receive steps in this scenario.
The customized Jco has been provided by an external partner as there is lots of parsing logic implemented. So we want to connect to the backend SAP system using this JCo and not via a send step.
My key qestion is therefore: Is it absolutely necessary to use exactly a pair of async send / receive steps in a sync/async bridge?
In this case we have to look for another design concept without BPM which would make the solution very difficult I think....

In BPM sync/async Step , can you have different message schema?

Scenario:
File to XI to BPM to SOAP to RFC
In order to trigger the webservice , I use a dummy file which will be polled at a certain frequency- once in 30 minutes in Test mode - this will call the Webservice. The answer of webservice is sent to RFC Async.
so these are the Repository objects I created :
1. File Outbound Async Message Interface- Output Message (File_Request_MT)
2.File Abstract Message Interface-Output Message (File_Request_MT)
3.Async/ sync bridge Abstract interface to call the Webservice
4 Webservice Inbound Sync Message interface- with both input and output message
5.RFC Inbound Async message interface- input message (RFC_Request)
6 RFC Abstract Async Message interface-input message (RFC_Request)
BPM
a) Receive step which uses the the object 2.
b) Sync send which uses object 3
c) Send step which uses Object 5
I am using a BPM to Receive the file data/ "request " by using the File abstract message interface
Then use the the object 3 to call the webservice in BPM .
My question is on this step
Can I have for the abstract Interface(Object 3) the Request message as File_Request_MT and
response message as (RFC_Request) ?
I use a message mapping to map Input and Ouput message of Object 3 with Object 4.
Thanks for your insight

Raj,
Thanks for the feedback , but I have a question regarding your reply
Interface Objects
Object 1: File_Request_Abs
Object 2: Soap_Response_Abs
Object 3:Soap_Abs_Synch
Output Message:File_Request_Abs
Input Message:Soap_Response_Abs
Object 4:Rfc_Request_Abs
The question is about
a)SOAP_RESPONSE_ABS : could you please tell me why do we need an abstract interface -SOAP_RESPONSE_ABS?
I created a message type MT_SOAP_RESPONSE and used that in the BPM sync Send step as the Input message.
b)Soap_Abs_Synch- I am using message types
MT_File_request and MT_SOAP_Response From your reponse, it looks like you are suggesting to use
Abstract Interfaces as Output message and Input Message, am I correct? Could you please tell me whether this has advantages over using message types MT_file_request and MT_soap_reponse? I haven't used Abstract interfaces before as Input message and output message; infact, I wasn't even aware that it can be. Please confirm that it is possible. Thank you for increasing my knowledge !!!
These are the Objects I created
Message Type :
a) MT_Filerequest
b) MT_SOAPresponse
Message Interface
a)MI_Filerequest_out_async -
Output message
Mess. type MT_filerequst
b)MI_filerequest_async_abs-
Mess. type MT_filerequst
Used
i) used for BPM receiver step- container definition
ii) receiver determination
c)MI_webservice_sync_in - This is created from External definition
d)MI_webservice_sync_abs-
Input message - MT_soapresponse
Output message- MT_fierequest
Used:
i) used for BPM sync send step ,
ii)Interface mapping between MI_Webservice_sync_in and MI_webservice_sync_abs
iii)Container element-SOAP_response
e) MI_RFC_async_out
Input message
RFC_Request(This is imported from RFC definition)
g) MI_RFC_async_abs
Input message
RFC_Request(This is imported from RFC definition)
Mapping
Message mapping
i)Filerequest_TO_SOAPrequest
Source: MT_Filerequest
Target: SOAPrequest(Got from External definition)
ii)SOAPresponse_TO_BPM_response
Source : SOAPresponse(got from External definition)
Target : MT_SOAPresponse
Interface Mapping
i)IM_BPM_TO_SOAP
Source Interface : MI_webservice_sync_abs
Target :MI_webservice_sync_in
uses following message mapping
Request : filerequest_TO_SOAPrequest
Response:SOAPresponse_TO_BPM_response
BPM container element
i)Receiver_container TYPE MI_Filerequest_out_async
ii)SOAP Responsecontainer TYPE MI_webservice_sync_abs
iii)RFC_Request_container TYPE MI_RFC_async_abs
BPM flow
Receive---->Send Synch-->Transformation----->Send Asynch
Receive -
> receiver_container
Send Synch -
> receiver_container(Request Message), Soap_response_container(Response Message)
Transformation -
> Source(Soap_response_container), Target(RFC_request_container)
Send Asynch -
> RFC_request_container
Thanks for your help!!!

Sync send step in a loop step

Hi Gurus,
I want to query a database and based on the return value I will proceed to the next step. For this I have a 'sync send' step where I am finding if the count(*) is 0 or greater than 0. If it is only '0' then only I will proceed to the next step.
For this functionality I am using a loop step with in which I have this sync send step (querying the database). The control will come out of the loop only when the count is 0.
But, I found that the response message container is not loading. That is the reason why the loop condition is always coming out as 'true'.
I want to know if I can use the send step with in a loop in BPM.
Please let me know your solutions.
Thanks
Kalyan

Hi,
see the counter variable , initial value is 0 ,then the loop always true.
second thing is when you send the request for synchronously and the response message to receive step, is it correct,
if so why do you want to maintain the loop, are more messages sending the messages in seqencially /syncrounously .
I think you want to check the response interface value is it , check this correctly..
See the below links for Sync Send .
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/sdn/weblogs?blog=/pub/wlg/1403 [original link is broken] [original link is broken] [original link is broken] [original link is broken]
Regards
Chilla

BPM Sync Send Step & Correlation

Hi Experts,
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1. Receive-1 from one sender
2. Send-1 it syncu2019ly to SAP using proxy and receive the response msg
3. N: 1 transformation b/w request message and response message to generate a target message
4. Send-2 the target message to a receiver
Though the scenario seems to be simple, I have a doubt about the sync send step.
How does the sync send step works in detail?
For every message the Receive-1 receives, a new process instance will be generated. When the message is sent to SAP syncu2019ly, how does it relate the response to the particular process instance?
For example, if 2 BPM process instances are created for two messages the Receive-1 step receives. However say, the second message is relatively less in size; in-turn consumes less time to execute in SAP and reaches XI well before the response for first message.
Which process instance will it be related to?
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Karthik

Thanks, Udo! With your reply I heave that itching thought.
I would happy to read more about this sync-session logic.
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P.S. pts added to you!
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Hello,
we need the following BP:
1. async. Receive Step: receive an IDoc
2. sync. Send Step: WebService request using the content of an IDoc field.
The WebService returns some data we need for the destination structure.
3. Transformation???
4. async. Send Step: we have to merge and map the Idoc fields and the
resulting fields of the WebService into the destination structure.
What are the basic steps and objects therefore?
IDoc-message X --> |
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Out problem is, how an where to get access to both Source Messages to merge them for the destiniation message?
Regards
Gunnar

1. async. Receive Step: receive an IDoc
2. sync. Send Step: WebService request using the content of an IDoc field.
The WebService returns some data we need for the destination structure.
3. Transformation???
4. async. Send Step: we have to merge and map the Idoc fields and the
resulting fields of the WebService into the destination structure.
>>>>
1. async. Receive Step: receive an IDoc - OK
2. sync. Send Step: WebService request using the content of an IDoc field.
The WebService returns some data we need for the destination structure. - OK
3. Transformation - this transformation step will have 2:1 mapping. source would be IDOC and response of WS mapped to result.
4. async. Send Step: Send the result

Sync send step in BPM fails and cant be resend XI

Hi Forum,
I have a file ->JDBC(Sync)->file scenario, with a BPM, having a synchronous send ........ sending and receiving message from a SQL Server,
the problem is ........... sometimes the synchronous send to the JDBC fails, bcoz of purely database connectivity issue, but then the whole scenario has to be rerun, coz sync send doesnt keep message persistent........ and we cant resend the failed Sync send step,
pls help .... its a production system

Hi sreeram,
i think the sync send doesnt make retries while sending message,
in this case it means data lost............means not persistent in the BPM
do u think my design is faulty,
is their any alternative

Problem when defining correlation with subsequent Async Receive Step.

Hi, all:
We have defined a BMP process, like below:
Receive (Start Process) --> Sync Send --> Sync Send --- Async Send
Now we need to have additional steps added into the process: Async Receive.
Now we have problem defining the correlation:
   Since this Async step is not the start of the process, we have to use correlation, if we leave it blank, a red question mark stays, and we can not active BPM.
   When we define the correlation, we just expect one message type to be received from a Async system.
   In the correlation condition editor window, we would like to choose "Interface Variable" and assign value to the container element that reference the asbtract interface.
   however, when we selection optiontb "Interface Variable", there is value "interface" already fill up, we can not select container element from the elements list.
Any one has such experience ?
Thanks in advance !
John

Hi
I think you are facing problem with corrrelation. Follow this procedure to define correlation : -
1. Switch from Container window to Correlation List, here define a correlation variable.
2. Now switch from Graphical Editor to Correlation Editor.
3. There in Correlation Name choose your Correlation variable.
4. In the Correlation Container define a variable.
5. In Involved Message window choose your message interfaces that are used to correlate. Here you should have message interface of your second receive step with another message interface.
6. Now in correlation editor's Properties window assign field of your involved message interface to the variable that you have defined in 4th step.
7. Now switch to Graphical Editor of you BPM. And Activate your correlation in First receive step and Use Correlation it in subsequent receive step.
This is the whole procedure to define a correlation and use it.
If you need further clarification plz revert.
Regards,
Sami.
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BPM: 2 synchronou receive step

Hi everyone,
Hi have to design a BPM which has 2 synchonous receive steps. The first I open a asynch/synch bridge. In the second one I use correlation but the receive says asynchronous receive step. This has to be synchronous. I have to sent back a message to the request.
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Thanks.

Hi have to design a BPM which has 2 synchonous receive steps. The first I open a asynch/synch bridge. In the second one
I use correlation but the receive says asynchronous receive step. This has to be synchronous.
The Sync-Async communication means that there is a source system which operates in SYNC mode and there is one target system which cannot operate in SYNC mode....now in your scenario I cannot find a System which works in Async mode....all your communication is SYNC....so the SYNC-Async bridge concept does not apply here.
We cannot change the process.
Bad.....one workaround would be change the mode of first Receive step to Async....i.e. receive only the request from the sender....then in the last Send step (where you now intend to close the bridge) send the response asynchronously.
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File BPM Webservice IDOC .........Error in BPM workflow(Sync send step)

Hi all,
I have the same type scenario that is file initiates the bpm that invokes the Webservice.the file data goes into bpm as the input data of the webservice and webservice gives the response and then the web-service response is mapped to
idoc and finally posted to R/3.
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2. Abstract async----
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3.Abstract sync----
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4.inbound sync -
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reciever agreement(2)
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its stuck up.getting error.
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Sync Send step in BPM.

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My BPM flow starts with a single message that I split using a message map into a list of messages into a block which is foreach mode to be sent synchronously one by one splitted messages to an Oracle stored procedure via the JDBC adapter. After the mapping step, the flow goes into a ParForEach block that executes the sync Send step to the JDBC adapter, and then has a Container Action that collects the responses.
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Edited by: sri_rambo on Nov 27, 2009 8:06 AM

My problem is that BPM seems to not like executing a synchronous send from inside a block.
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I have an interface where I am loading the data into an Oracle database and getting the response back (insertcount) from the database. Based on the response, I have to execute a stored procedure in another sync send step.
I am doing perfectly alright until the transformation step. The sync send step after this step has the following entries.
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Interface MI_LG_SP_INPUT_ABS for element sp_lg_poc_step2 is not abstract/asynchronous
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Sravya,
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Problem with BPM Receive step

Hy all,
I have a strage Problem with a BPM Definition into a receive step. I receive from SAP System IDoc and (per dynamic receive determination) I receive it into BPM.
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Error when executing work item '000000177354'
Error when starting work item 000000177354
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Error when executing work item '000000177354'
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i built a BPM in PI 7.0, in this i used a Receive step to start the BPM. in the subsequent steps this message has sent to the extrnal business sytem through the Send step. there it processes. then after some time this business system will send another message to the PI ( same BPM). so that i put a Receive step after the Send step and followed by remaining BPM steps for further processing.(My intention is this Receive step should receive the responce messageg from the same Business system). i did all the configuration steps.
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<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8" standalone="yes" ?>
- 
- <SAP:Error xmlns:SAP="http://sap.com/xi/XI/Message/30" xmlns:SOAP="http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/envelope/" SOAP:mustUnderstand="">
<SAP:Category>XIServer</SAP:Category>
<SAP:Code area="RCVR_DETERMINATION">NO_RECEIVER_CASE_ASYNC</SAP:Code>
<SAP:P1 />
<SAP:P2 />
<SAP:P3 />
<SAP:P4 />
<SAP:AdditionalText />
<SAP:ApplicationFaultMessage namespace="" />
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hi Udo,
i am explaining about message flow:
first the message comes from the http client to PI,then go to BPM as Receive step, then a Trasfermation step. then a Send step to send this message to the SAP R/3 ECC 6.0 (Async Receiver proxy). there this message will be processed (say some Application). after some time this Application sends a processed message back to the PI (BPM) as sender proxy message (Async). To receive this message i used a Receive step after the Send step. and also the remaining BPM steps are continued....
here the problem is, a Business system BS_HE6 is defined in the SLD to the corresponding ECC 6.0.
but while execution, (SXMB_MONI)
message from http client to the PI (BPM) is success full.
message send to the ECC 6.0 is successful, (receiver proxy)
message from the ECC 6.0 to PI (BPM) (Sender proxy) is showing error as follows.
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8" standalone="yes" ?>
- 
- <SOAP:Envelope xmlns:SOAP="http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/envelope/" xmlns:SAP="http://sap.com/xi/XI/Message/30">
- <SOAP:Header>
- <SAP:Main xmlns:SAP="http://sap.com/xi/XI/Message/30" xmlns:SOAP="http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/envelope/" xmlns:wsu="http://www.docs.oasis-open.org/wss/2004/01/oasis-200401-wss-wssecurity-utility-1.0.xsd" versionMajor="003" versionMinor="000" SOAP:mustUnderstand="1" wsu:Id="wsuid-main-92ABE13F5C59AB7FE10000000A1551F7">
<SAP:MessageClass>ApplicationMessage</SAP:MessageClass>
<SAP:ProcessingMode>asynchronous</SAP:ProcessingMode>
<SAP:MessageId>88B06F57-9673-DB45-9B71-BE954EC23A3A</SAP:MessageId>
<SAP:TimeSent>2009-01-21T12:27:17Z</SAP:TimeSent>
- <SAP:Sender>
<SAP:Service>BSHE6_LS</SAP:Service>
<SAP:Interface namespace="urn://LPOC">wf_resp_mi</SAP:Interface>
</SAP:Sender>
<SAP:Interface namespace="urn://LPOC">wf_resp_mi</SAP:Interface>
</SAP:Main>
- <SAP:ReliableMessaging xmlns:SAP="http://sap.com/xi/XI/Message/30" xmlns:SOAP="http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/envelope/" SOAP:mustUnderstand="1">
<SAP:QualityOfService>ExactlyOnce</SAP:QualityOfService>
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8" standalone="yes" ?>
- 
- <SAP:Error xmlns:SAP="http://sap.com/xi/XI/Message/30" xmlns:SOAP="http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/envelope/" SOAP:mustUnderstand="">
<SAP:Category>XIServer</SAP:Category>
<SAP:Code area="RCVR_DETERMINATION">NO_RECEIVER_CASE_ASYNC</SAP:Code>
<SAP:P1 />
<SAP:P2 />
<SAP:P3 />
<SAP:P4 />
<SAP:AdditionalText />
<SAP:ApplicationFaultMessage namespace="" />
<SAP:Stack>No receiver could be determined</SAP:Stack>
<SAP:Retry>M</SAP:Retry>
</SAP:Error>
if you observe above, you can find "<SAP:Sender>
<SAP:Service>BSHE6_LS</SAP:Service> ", but the actual business system is BS_HE6.
i cant configure receiver determination with BSHE6_LS, because there is no Business Sytem configured as such in SLD.
my question is , can we change the Business service name in the ECC 6.0 sytem from BSHE6_LS to BS_HE6? (because this message is comming from the ECC 6.0 as Proxy message)
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