Tabloid Newspaper in InDesign - Bleeds, sizing, etc.

Hi Guys,
I have a lot of experience doing magazines and the lot in InDesign, where artwork goes to the edge of the paper.
I've been tasked with the tabloid-size redesign of a regional broadsheet newspaper.
I will have the newspaper's in-house design team to back me up soon, but I want to get a head start, and I'm a bit baffled.
Wikipedia and various other sources set the page size at 430 × 280 mm (16.9 in × 11.0 in), which is the size of the double spread (so two pages across). I would be inclined to half the width at 215 mm and put each page size in at 215 × 280 mm. (This would be done as 'facing' pages.) Is this the wrong way to do it? Should I put the full 430 × 280 mm in as the page size?
I know it sounds ridiculous, but I've had a measure of other compact/tabloid size newspapers (with a ruler), and they all seem to be much bigger than those sizes. I presume that's because newspaper printing isn't and doesn't need to be very accurate. Is this correct?
If so, what bleeds should I put in for the document? I would be inclined to say 20 mm since printing seems so inaccurate, but this seems way too big. And should these be added using the File > Document Setup window? This seems to add on to the overall width. Is this OK?
I'm sorry for all the questions, and I know I seem ridiculously inexperienced at this lark, but trust me, I'm a quick learner!
All responses are greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Ed.
[I'm based in Ireland so all sizes are UK/Ireland standard, and I'm using InDesign CS5]

Thanks for your help Peter.
With regards to the cutting apart – how much of a safe-zone should I give myself so that the wrong parts don't get cut apart?
I'm very, very baffled with regards to the sizing of the tabloid. The design team do not know; I am the person tasked with deciding the size (Berliner is being considered), as they currently are a broadsheet newspaper.
The sizes given across the web are 17 (width) x 11 (height). If that is considered the page size, then it would be a very awkward newspaper! Obviously wider than it is tall.
If we are to revert it, as you did, so that it is 11 x 17, we get something that is reasonably OK, but it is simply not the right size, and is out of proportion compared to tabloids.
The thing is, if we half the the 17 x 11, so that it is 8.5 (width) x 11 (height), the proportions look perfect, as with tabloids. Is it possible that newspaper sizes are discussed regarding spreads, and not the actual individual pages? It's not the way I'm used to and you don't seem to be either, but maybe?
As far as I know, UK tabloid and US tabloid sizes are different, so that may be leading to some confusion.
Thanks for your help...
Ed.

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