Tax synchs as a negative discount

Hi all,
When we have an order that charges tax on the website, the tax is applied correctly.
However, when it synchs to SAP it does not show up as a tax. It synchs into the discount field as a negative number.
Now, that works fine for me because the tax is still charged, but our accountant has problems with it because none of SAP's tax reports can find this money.
Is this a known bug? How do I fix it?
Thanks,
Jim

This can happen if there is a difference in the amount of tax charged on the web vs the automatic tax calculation assigned by B1.
In B1 you assign a tax to a shipping address manually. In web tools it is automatically assigned based on criteria you specify in the tax details, such as zip code, state, etc.
If web tools determines(based on your settings) that the order should be taxed it assigns that tax code to the order. If this tax code is not assigned to the address used for the order on the BP, then its not used.
So basically you have to manually assign the tax to the address in B1 for each BP, and that code must match the one that web tools assigns which is based on the settings of the tax in web tools.

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Hi Shane,
You nailed my problem exactly... Pricing does not synch from Web Tools to B1 and that will not be changing. (That is all I am talking about, this has nothing to do with B1 --> WT or hierarchies and expansions).
I have an item inside of B1 that will need to manually change its price and the same rule will apply for the Web, I need to be able to manually change its price, but because the synch does not take place between WT and B1 on the Price, I get the wrong value passed over and an Order Discount for the difference. Now, the funny thing is that I have another item that I do the same thing with (it has variable price), but this item is marked only as a Sales Item and that item's price synchs over from WT --> B1. I have no idea why that is happening correctly and others are not.
I believe that this is something that should be addressed. This also ties into the Tax issue at the line item level as well. If you can define prices and taxes inside of Web Tools those should absolutely be synched over to Business One and overwrite whatever values are in there. I am not sure why that wouldn't change. Does it make sense to let the prices of items and taxes to be overridden by B1 based on what is in B1 even though what is in B1 is not matching what is in Web Tools? I am more confused on why we wouldn't be addressing this as a problem. You can override prices manually inside of B1, so I would think you would want the same functionality inside of Web Tools. Not to mention why would you want the order that comes over from WT to look differently inside of B1, which is what is happening and worse yet, why would you want all of the differences to come over in one lump field (Order Level Discounts).
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My client has a scenario where in some purchase orders , he receives the discount after tax.
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What type of industry sector your client belongs to. But as a standard practise, cash discounts are captured before adopting the Tax or VAT through Invoice.
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(2)
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 110.00 INR
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