Third Party Credit Memo.

Hi Friends,
When we receive a credit Memo from the Third Party for say defective goods then this can be directly sent to the Customer as a credit Memo ( Credit Note). The Billing type here is G2S and The Item category is TASG.
Now my question is when we create G2S then to which document does it take reference from? Will it be from the Invoice F2 raised to the customer or from the Sales order OR of the customer. When I create a G2S with reference to the order OR after the Invoice F2 has been raised, the system throws up an error stating that this document has been completely Invoiced.
Please let me know how do I solve this issue.
Nagesh Murthy.

Hi Nagesh,
In any credit memo scenario, always enable the creation of Credit Memo Request and then Credit memo. When the credit memo request is to be created, make sure that it is always created with reference to the invoice document only and not reference to the sales order, as the objective of Credit memo is to correct the prices in the invoice document. This will help you in various scenarios like exchange rate where the value of sales order and the value of invoice can be different in the local currency due to ex.rate fluctuations.
As credit memo takes care of incorrect prices, having a document flow of credit memo request with reference to sales order is incorrect.
With reference to the error message, it is a valid message as an invoice has been created with reference to the order. You should not create a credit memo with reference to a sales order(OR), for credit memo, u shd use a credit memo request only as the reference.
Hence the flow for your question is
Sales order>Invoice>Credit Memo req-->Credit Memo
OR>F2>G2W(Confirm with others on the doc type)-->G2S
Pls lemme know if you need further clarifications in this topic.

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Third party credit update with goods receipt

Hi Experts,
I need to know how customize the credit control management in the following situation:
In third party flow without SD delivery: Sales Order -> Purchase requisition -> Purchase
Order ->Goods Receips from supplier.
The credit control has to be done with the delivered amount not
invoiced. But in this flow the SD delivery is substitue by MM Goods
Receipt in order to deliver products to the customers. When goods
receipt is done the delivered credit amount isn't updated.
it's necessary to check the amount delivered not the amount ordered (as it's done with the current customization)
The customizing is:
the item category:
billing relevance 'B': Relevant for order-related billing - status
acc.to order qty
o Copying control -> invoiced quantity indicator 'E': Goods receipt
quantity less invoiced quantity
Schedule type: u2018CSu2019
Credit control area update group: 00012
Automatic control check : 'D', flag in open deliveries.
We have checked note 410685 but not solution has been found.
Example: Customer has a credit limit 1000 euros.
1) Create a sales order with an total amount 900 euros.
2) Create purchase order with the purchase requisition created
automatically by the sales order and release it.
3) Do goods receipt for an total amount 800.
4) Create another sales order with a total amount 150 euros.
Now, the new sales order is blocked, because the calculated credit is
100 (credit limit - ordered amount). If the credit is calculated with
the delivered quantity, the credit will be 200 and the new sales order
won't be blocked.
Thanks in advance,
Laura

Hi Nagesh,
In any credit memo scenario, always enable the creation of Credit Memo Request and then Credit memo. When the credit memo request is to be created, make sure that it is always created with reference to the invoice document only and not reference to the sales order, as the objective of Credit memo is to correct the prices in the invoice document. This will help you in various scenarios like exchange rate where the value of sales order and the value of invoice can be different in the local currency due to ex.rate fluctuations.
As credit memo takes care of incorrect prices, having a document flow of credit memo request with reference to sales order is incorrect.
With reference to the error message, it is a valid message as an invoice has been created with reference to the order. You should not create a credit memo with reference to a sales order(OR), for credit memo, u shd use a credit memo request only as the reference.
Hence the flow for your question is
Sales order>Invoice>Credit Memo req-->Credit Memo
OR>F2>G2W(Confirm with others on the doc type)-->G2S
Pls lemme know if you need further clarifications in this topic.

Credit Memo process in 3rd party order

Hello All,
Once 3rd party invoice is completed process as follows: (standard process)
sale order --> Purchase Requisition --> Purchase Order --> Goods Receipt --> Invoice Verification --> Customer Invoice.
When you post the customer invoice to accounting, in general system will update
1.Net Value 2. COGS (Cost of goods sold) 3. Sales Qty.
Now the scenario is when the vendor cancel his original invoice and reissue the invoice (due to change in price / change in stock item and so on..),
We have to cancel the customer invoice and issue credit memo invoice (without any reference) for the customer.
But the problem here is.. when we post the credit invoice to accounting, COGS will not be updated (currently they are adjusting COGS value manually).
How can we map this scenario ? while creating credit memo invoice we should consider some reference so that COGS should be updated.

Hello Suresh,
THERE ARE TWO SCENARIOS HERE.
Scenario is when the vendor cancel his original invoice and reissue the invoice (due to change in price / change in stock item and so on..),We have to cancel the customer invoice and issue credit memo invoice (without any reference) for the customer.
> IF THE VENDOR GRANTS YOU A CREDIT MEMO ON THE QUANTITY OR VALUE BASIS, YOU CAN DIRECTLY PASS ON THIS TO CUSTOMER BY RAISING CREDIT MEMO (THIRD PARTY CREDIT MEMO IS G2S), THIS WORKS WITH ITEM CATEGORY 'TASG' (THIRD PARTY CREDIT MEMO ITEM). THE SALES RELEVANT INDICATOR ' F' IS SET IN CUSTOMISING FOR SALES FOR THIS ITEM CATEGORY. THIS MEANS THAT THE COST IS NOT CREATED.
--->IF THE VENDOR CALCULATES ADDITIONAL COSTS FOR YOU ONCE THE THIRD PARTY BUSINESS TRANSACTIONS HAVE ALREADY BEEN BILLED. THE COSTS FROM THE INVOICE RECEIPT ARE THEN CORRECTED IN THE CUSTOMER BILLING DOCUMENT WHICH HAVE ALREADY BEEN CREATED. SUBSEQUENT DEBITS FROM THE INVOICE RECEIPTS ARE COPIED TO PROFITABILITY ANALYSIS AS A DIFFERENCE AMOUNT. THIS MEANS THAT THE COST IS UPDATED HERE ALSO. IN ACCRUED PROFITABILITY ANALYSIS, THE COSTS ARE NOT COPIED FROM THE INVOICE RECEIPT, BUT FROM THE CUSTOMER BILLING DOCUMENT.
EXAMPLE:In the context of a third-party business transaction, you create a sales order for over 100 pieces.
A purchase requisition and a purchase order are generated. Ten pieces are delivered to the customer, and a billing document is then sent to the customer when the 10 pieces are delivered. The vendor sets a subsequent debit of 100 USD for shipping costs in the invoice. The cost is nowupdated in the billing document created, and in the profitability analysis (in this case, it is raised
by 100 USD).

Return process in Third Party system

Dear Friends,
Please suggest me the complete process of return under Third Party Order system, with T codes and paths,
Regards,
Atul

Hi ATul
Officially the return process is not supported by standard SAP ERP system for the third-party process.This functionality was never designed and is not supported.
The note 751609 is the official statement of SAP to this problem.
But any return goods to vendor from customer can be settled through credit notes.
The process is to first pass a credit memo to Vendor and after the process the with reference to Sales order a third party credit memo can be issued to customer
Hope this will help you.
Regards
Ramesh

THIRD PARTY RETURN SALES

hi friends,
In third party RETURN SALES
what is the business flow???
After returning the goods to vendor, How we create creit note ??
means which reference( OR,PO,RE)???
thanks

Third Party Return Process
Please check this extract from the sap library :
If the vendor grants you a credit memo on a quantity or a value basis, you can then send this credit memo directly to your customer.
The billing type Third-party credit memo (G2S) is available for this. The billing type Third-party credit memo works with the item category TASG (third-party credit memo item). The Billing-relevance indicator F is set in Customizing for Sales for this item category. This means that the cost is not created. In Customizing for Sales, the item category TASG is set at item level in copying control for the billing type G2S (copying control sales document by billing document) as the target item category (source: TAS-> Target:> TASG.)
Process Flow
Create a billing documente with billing type Third-party credit memo (for further information, see the section Creating a billing document in the Billing document). Enter the third-party order as a document still to be processed. The quantities are automatically removed from the invoice.
The above is the process for giving a credit memo which can be adapted for return goods.
Regards,
Rajesh Banka

Third Party Sales Returns process

Hello All
We have a third-party sales process which is automated i.e Sales order and Purchase requisitions(VA01) are created using the data coming in the incoming EDI file, the Purchase requisition is automatically converted to a Purchase order, the Invoice Reciept(MIRO) is posted and the Sales Invoice (VF01) is posted.
The question is how do we handle the Returns or the Credit process?
Is there a way I can configure the system to create a Returns order which will also update the Pur.Req quantity then the Purchase order quantity or directly the Purchase order quantity. I can then use this information to raise a credit to the Vendor Invoice.
I don't want to just raise a credit memo and update the sales side and leave the purchase side open.
I appreciate your reply.
Best Regards
Rama

Third Party Return Process
Please check this extract from the sap library :
If the vendor grants you a credit memo on a quantity or a value basis, you can then send this credit memo directly to your customer.
The billing type Third-party credit memo (G2S) is available for this. The billing type Third-party credit memo works with the item category TASG (third-party credit memo item). The Billing-relevance indicator F is set in Customizing for Sales for this item category. This means that the cost is not created. In Customizing for Sales, the item category TASG is set at item level in copying control for the billing type G2S (copying control sales document by billing document) as the target item category (source: TAS-> Target:> TASG.)
Process Flow
Create a billing documente with billing type Third-party credit memo (for further information, see the section Creating a billing document in the Billing document). Enter the third-party order as a document still to be processed. The quantities are automatically removed from the invoice.
The above is the process for giving a credit memo which can be adapted for return goods.
Regards,
Rajesh Banka
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Third Party Returns

Hi all,
Can anyone explain the third party returns process and step by step configuration in IMG.
its urgent. u can mail me to [email protected]
tks

Third Party Return Process
Please check this extract from the sap library :
If the vendor grants you a credit memo on a quantity or a value basis, you can then send this credit memo directly to your customer.
The billing type Third-party credit memo (G2S) is available for this. The billing type Third-party credit memo works with the item category TASG (third-party credit memo item). The Billing-relevance indicator F is set in Customizing for Sales for this item category. This means that the cost is not created. In Customizing for Sales, the item category TASG is set at item level in copying control for the billing type G2S (copying control sales document by billing document) as the target item category (source: TAS-> Target:> TASG.)
Process Flow
Create a billing documente with billing type Third-party credit memo (for further information, see the section Creating a billing document in the Billing document). Enter the third-party order as a document still to be processed. The quantities are automatically removed from the invoice.
The above is the process for giving a credit memo which can be adapted for return goods.
Regards,
Rajesh Banka
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Process Required for Third party sales

Hi Guru ji's ,
Pls let me know the step by step procedure for Third party sales processing.
on the below conditions.
1] Sales order to be created automatically based on the Bapi .
2] Based on the Sales order, automatic Purchase order and Gr must happen.
3] Automatic invoices must also be created automatically.
Can any one explain us what is to be done under the above said conditions,
Best Regards,
Gurpreet Singh Saini.

Hi
Please find enclosed the details on third party.
Process Flow for 3rd Party Sales
Customize the third party sales in summary:
1. Create Vendor XK01
2. Create Material u2013 Material Type as "Trading Goods". Item category group as "BANS".
3. Assign Item Category TAS to Order type that you are going to use.
4. A sale order is created and when saved a PR is generated at the background
5. With reference to SO a PO is created (ME21N). The company raises PO to the vendor.
6. Vendor delivers the goods and raises bill to company. MM receives the invoice MIRO
7. Goods receipt MIGO
8. Goods issue
9. The item cat TAS or Schedule line cat CS is not relevant for delivery which is evident from the config and,   therefore, there is no delivery process attached in the whole process of Third party sales.
10. Billing      *-- Seema Dhar
SD - 3rd party sales order Create Sales Order
VA01
      Order Type
      Sales org, distr chnl, div
      Enter
      Sold to
      PO #
      Material
      Quantity
      Enter
      Save
SD - 3rd party sales order View the PR that is created with a third party sales order
VA01
      Order Number
      Goto Item Overview
      Item ->Schedule Item
SD - 3rd party sales order View the PR that is created
ME52N
      Key in the PR number
      Save
SD - 3rd party sales order Assign the PR to the vendor and create PO
ME57
      Key in the PR number
      Toggle the "Assigned Purchase Requisition"
      Execute
      Check the box next to the material
      Assign Automatically button
      Click on "Assignments" button
      Click on "Process assignment"
      The "Process Assignment Create PO" box , enter
      Drag the PR and drop in the shopping basket
      Save
SD - 3rd party sales order Receive Goods
MIGO_GR
      PO Number
      DN Number
      Batch tab , click on classification
      Serial Numbers tab
      Date of Production
      Flag Item OK
      Check, just in case
      Post
      Save
SD - 3rd party sales order Create Invoice
MIRO
      Invoice Date
      Look for the PO , state the vendor and the Material
      Check the box
      Clilck on "Copy"
      Purchase Order Number (bottom half of the screen)
      Amount
      State the baseline date
      Simulate & Post
      Invoice Number
      *Invoice blocked due to date variance
SD - 3rd party sales order Create a delivery order
VL01N
      In the order screen , go to the menu Sales Document , select "Deliver"
      Go to "picking" tab
      State the qty and save
SD - 3rd party sales order Create a billing document
VF01
      Ensure that the delivery document is correct in the
      Enter
      Go to edit -> Log
      Save
Third party Return Process
If the vendor grants you a credit memo on a quantity or a value basis, you can then send this credit memo directly to your customer.
The billing type Third-party credit memo (G2S) is available for this. The billing type Third-party credit memo works with the item category TASG (third-party credit memo item). The Billing-relevance indicator F is set in Customizing for Sales for this item category. This means that the cost is not created. In Customizing for Sales, the item category TASG is set at item level in copying control for the billing type G2S (copying control sales document by billing document) as the target item category (source: TAS-> Target:> TASG.)
Process Flow
Create a billing documente with billing type Third-party credit memo (for further information, see the section Creating a billing document in the Billing document). Enter the third-party order as a document still to be processed. The quantities are automatically removed from the invoice.
The above is the process for giving a credit memo which can be adapted for return goods.
Hope it will help you

Third party return flow

what should be the return flow of aThird party sales?
Sharmila

As already posted in SDN:
Third Party Return Process
Please check this extract from the sap library :
If the vendor grants you a credit memo on a quantity or a value basis, you can then send this credit memo directly to your customer.
The billing type Third-party credit memo (G2S) is available for this. The billing type Third-party credit memo works with the item category TASG (third-party credit memo item). The Billing-relevance indicator F is set in Customizing for Sales for this item category. This means that the cost is not created. In Customizing for Sales, the item category TASG is set at item level in copying control for the billing type G2S (copying control sales document by billing document) as the target item category (source: TAS-> Target:> TASG.)
Process Flow
Create a billing documente with billing type Third-party credit memo (for further information, see the section Creating a billing document in the Billing document). Enter the third-party order as a document still to be processed. The quantities are automatically removed from the invoice.
The above is the process for giving a credit memo which can be adapted for return goods.

How to create Credit or Debit Memo for Third party orders

Dear All,
Is it possible to create Credit or Debit Memo for the Third party Orders.
Is there any standard procedure to do that?
Kindly explain.
Regards,
Mullairaja

Hi,
What is the scenario, why you want to create Cr/ Dr memo?
Any credit / Debits memo to the Customer, SAP have provided the standard functionality which can be used across the different types of sales.
- but if you are looking for issue Credit / Debit memo to the vendor which can be done using Tx: FB60
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MIGO Is mandatery in Credit memo in 3rd party ?

Dear SD Experts ,
i know the 3rd party processing But i have One Doubt please explain me
2 Steps we have to do In Third part return process.
link tells
http://scn.sap.com/thread/987949
1 Flow to bring the stock from Customer is
va01 return order ( W/O Ref) --vl01n- Ref deli---MIGO ---VF01 ( Credit memo with ref to Return delivery )
2 Flow to Send the stock from company to vendor
ME21N( Ret PO )-- MIGO---MIRO ( Credit memo with ref to Ret po )
i know this flow is Right to credit memo in 3 Rd party But in both cases MIGO IS Mandatory or not ?
Second thing is TASG Is item category For credit memo in third party ..i have checked in VOV7
But i didnt understand this where i will insert /
Thanks a lot

Dear Madhuri ..
You mentioned is How to bring stock From Customer and sending to vendor Right
This is special process
Coming to TASG Item category , i have to tell you How credit memo is created in Third party process
I Am telling as per My knowledge
Now create credit memo ....Create credit memo Req ( G2) with ref to Invoice not with Third party sales order
While maintaining in VF01 Maintain Billing type G2S Only Not G2
Coming to TASG Item cat in copy control we have to make Between TAS --TASG Item category level In the Sales document type to Billing document type source and Target doc.
Dear Mentors please Tell me if i am wrong .
Thanks a lot

Credit Check with Third Party Process

Hi Gurz,
I know about third party process but my problem is with credit check of the customers.
If customer has not got enough credit limit to process the order in normal senario credit controller has to manually release the order as system blocks it. In third party process system will give you warning message when saving sales order about customer credit limit but allows you to save sales order. Once saving sales order it authomatically creates Purchase Requisition. From PR purchasing creates P.O. with out knowing about customer credit limit issue. and so on. In other words goods supplied to customer even though credit limit has exceeded. This user don't know untill raising the invoice to the customer which is too late.
Can we stop creating Purchase requisition or block purchase requistion for credit check ? or there are better way of handling the process for credit check?
Thanks in advance

Hi,
Try to implement OSS note -738171 - Delivery block does not influence purchase requisition.
Following is the details of the note;
Summary
Symptom
The delivery block in a sales order does not prevent the generattion of the purchase requisition in a third-party or individual purchase order item. Regardless of the Customizing settings in the delivery block, the system confirms the TAB or TAS item and generates the purchase requisition.
More Terms
Order, purchase requisition, PReq, TAB, individual purchase order, individual purchase order item, TAS, third-party, third-party item, SD order, delivery block, VBAK-LIFSK, VBEP-LIFSP
Cause and Prerequisites
Solution
Create a user-specific user requirement (for example, 902: BEDINGUNG_PRUEFEN_902 in Include LV07A902) as a copy of standard user requirement 102 and assign it to requirement 'Preq' by using Transaction OVB5.
In the source code of the user-requirement, program a check for the delivery block which, if necessary, triggers an ERROR_EXCEPTION which prevents the generation of the purchase requisition.
You can use the existing check for the credit block as a template.
Regards,

Credit check issue in third party order

Dear all,
We are facing some issues related to credit management data for one of our customer. I need your valuable inputs for below mentioned queries-
1. As a genaral question- When we releases a SO through VKM* How the system calculated the " Released Credit Value of the document".
2- For one of the customers, the FD33 shows a Sales value X USD. As i see the split of this sales value , this X USD amounts to OPEN DELIVERIES. Both Open So and Open billing are zero. We tried to check with no. of tcodes to find out the open values but no such Open delv document is appeared.
In VC/2, it only shows Open SO, no open deliveries are there.
So i tried with simulation program RVKRED88, and found 5 third party Sales documents , against which some value is coming under the Open delivery value and it sums up to the value as coming in FD33.
I have a few questions on this-
> All the SO in output are Third party SO, against which PO has been created, ( Third party So> PR> PO> MIRO--> billing) and all are in status OPEN, so how come they are showing value in OPEN DELIVERY ?
--> The value appearing against these third party SO is Not equal to items value/net value, it is a complete different value than appearing in SO. But in SO changes history , the same value is coming AS RELEASED CREDIT VALUE. How is it being calculated?
For eg- for one of the Third party SO , the value coming in RVKRED88 is 29573.53 USD,
                                                            net value in So= 24,120.00 USD, Qty = 6000 PC , Credit price= 4.02 USD
                                                            Credit value of So in VBAk= 29573.53 USD
                                                           SO created , released on 08.July.2011, confirmed schedule line =08.Oct.2011
Credit settings- Static check + Credit active Item cat and SO , Open So and open delv are ticked in credit settings.
Kindly help in the analysis.
many thanks in advance for the inputs.

Hi Dharmendra,
1. When we release a sales order using VKM* transaction S066 information structure and OEIKW field is updated which increases open order value.
2. If there is mismatch in the values of credit related fields run RVKRED77 (Re-organisation of credit in case of update errors) this will update all the credit data for a Payer customer in real time. RVKRED88 is simulation mode.
3. Updating of values related to credit is controlled by the update group assigned to credit control area. If system is not able to update using the assigned update group it will automatically try updating using the next update group. Below is the text of SAP Help.
If a document cannot be processed with the update group you specify, the system determines the next possible update it can carry out. For example, you select Update group 000012 which, at delivery, reduces the open order value and increases the open delivery value. Assume that one item in the order is not relevant for delivery. In this case, the system automatically determines Update group 000018 for this item. Update group 000018 increases the open delivery value for the order item. The system uses the confirmed quantity of delivery-relevant schedule lines to update the order value
As you know in OVA8 transaction credit control area, Risk category, credit group and currency are assigned to update group.

Credit Management not working for Third Party Sale

Hi Experts,
We have a scenario of Third party sale where sales order generate purchase requision after saving. Now we have appled static credit check to the customer, at the time of saving sales document it warns credit limit is over same time it doesn't allow to save, displaying incompletion log - " Subsequent function 'Purchase requisition from sales document' not possible due to a credit block".
Pl. suggest us, since it is third party sale no delivery is available, so we cann't apply credit check at the time of delivery also.So what would be the solution.
Kindly help.
Thanks
Prashant Ray

Hi Prashant,
Check in FD32 what is the credit limit and try to do the cahnges there if required.
Also you can relase the SO through VKM3 / 2 /4.This will allow you to releasea nd the save the SO.
Hope it helps
Regards
Rohit.

Enter sold-to party debit memo request - credit memo request

Hi Gurus,
I have a scenario here while creating a Debit memo request.
1. I create a Debit memo request with sold-to party 1000
2. I create a Credit memo request with the same sold-to party 1000.
That will be saved,
but when you enter VA02 or VA03 for CMR, a message displays "Enter a Sold-to Party".
So in VA02, I will refill it with Sold-to party 1000, then I can save it. But when I view it again, I will encounter the same message again.
However, if I use a different sold-to party 2000, the CMR will be saved normally, and if you view it via VA02, you will see it is correct (you can see sold-to party 2000).
Why? Cant I use the same sold-to party for DMR to CMR?
Please help....
Ram

Check whether the partner functions are mantained properly for customer 1000. Go to VD01 and maintain.
Regards,
GSL.

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