Trading Process in CIN

Dear all,
In my company we have a scenario, ie as follows.
2 different companies, 1 is Manufacturing company, other is a Trading company.
The trading company purchases goods from manufacturing unit with excisable value. ie base price + bed+Ecess + shecess.
But when Trading company is selling we have to pass on the same BED,ecess and Shecess to the customer even though the price of the material is more than the purchase amount.
Kindly give some inputs. We cannot maintain the trading company as a Depot.****
regards,
Sudhir

then what is the problem ?
there is no relation between your purchase amount and salesprice.
Obviusly trader's Sales price = [(Purchase value + ED + Cess + SHE Cess + Sales tax + Freight (If any)) = Invoice Value ] + Profit margin of Trading Company
Hence it is always greater than purchase value. Feel free to maintain the sales price as u want.
Reagrds
Swapnil

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