Treasury Management- split postings by business areas
Hi,
Currently we have the FSCM TM set up in a way that we do not differentiate by Business Areas. All postings go to central place and distributed later by percnetage base.
In additional account assignments we have only one receiver defined. So the number of posting references/ product Types/ transaction types is fairly smal
Because business requires better visibility and more exact assignment we would now have to differentiate in posting from Treasury a potential split.
To me it seems like we would need to have the differentiation enabled through creating new transaction types.
Is there a another way to achieve this? Can we use different separator fields? Is there a user exit we could use for this ?::::
Any hints highly appreciated
Thanks
Hein
Hi,
just to clarify:
One deal is per posting. There is a 1:1 between deal and business area, no split of this into multiples.
However, I do not have this field business area in the deal creation and as such it is not passed on through to FI postings.
As stated above there is an option to have this via posting reference and product and transaction type differentiated- but is there an easier way than having so many transaction types as business areas?
Issue is, we have about 10 different business areas that have treasury deals.
Any ideas?
Cheers
Hein
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[Business Area and Plant |http://forums.sdn.sap.com/thread.jspa?messageID=7887328#7887328] -
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R. PanigrahiSee OSS note 199886 - Business area in tax line:
Cause and prerequisites
Postings to VAT accounts must be made without business area. The reason for this is that the field "Business area" does not exist in the tax data. Therefore,the advance return for tax on sales/purchases can also only generate postings without business area and these postings must correspond exactly to the original tax postings in your account assignments. Otherwise, the tax accounts would have steadily increasing business area balances.
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