Truetype, postscript, opentype problems

We have several macs that we use for publications. Since upgrading from system 9, where all fonts were in one folder and we could limit fonts to postscript (which our offset printers prefer), we have all sorts of font problems.
When we take a quark file, for example, created on one computer and open it on another. Quark sometimes looks for missing fonts. That is not the problem, the problem is when it pulls a truetype (pick any name) font and replaces the postscript font with the same name.
This really is not a quark problem; it just illustrates the problem well. OSX have lots of font folders, so it is hard to pinpoint which ones to focus on. The problem, I guess is that the system require certain truetype fonts to operate and you can't remove them to replace them with postscript versions.
So who can help me isolate the minimum TT fonts needed and how can I use postscript fonts of the same name?
And for a bonus, how do opentype fonts play into this equation

Hi Scott -
It isn't entirely a QX problem, but that seems to be one of the most prominently problematic apps. I can't begin to sum it up as well as Kurt Lang has here:
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=122011&tstart=0
So make yourself comfortable, clean up your spectacles & have a good read !:)
Regards |:>)
Bob J.

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