TV and title safe .... exporting???

Hi
I'm exporting a clip to post to my blog and I've moved a few shots up and they are all in safe title and TV safe BUT when they export you can see what's underneath the clip????? That should not be happening?
Please help?
Thanks

To mirror what Jim said, because you don't seem to understand...
What you see on your monitor is EXACTLY what you will see if you export a QT movie to play on your computer. You see EVERYTHING. TVs tend to cut off some of this picture, due to the molding that holds the TV screen in place...plastic or metal covers a little of the front of the tube, thus blocking some of the image. Some TV screens were covered more than others...so TV safe takes into account the WORSE it could be. That any action inside that box is guaranteed to be seen. Title safe goes in a bit further so that the titles aren't on the edge of the screen.
Again, if you export for the web, this is moot...you get the entire image.
Shane

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Using 4:3 guides and title safe in 16:9 sequence.

Does anyone know if its possible to apply 4:3 guides and title safe to a 16:9 timeline sequence?
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I'm not aware of being able to do it within the programme with regards using the canvas/viewer guides but it wouldn't take much to knock one up using opaque blocks in a shape generator and then just having those as the uppermost layer in your sequence for checking. You could also make a PSD file with lines on a transparent background in photoshop and employ the same way.
I take it your creating graphics etc as shot material would have hopefully taken this into consideration at the time of filming!

Title Safe for video..

So I just looked at a sample of my project on a TV and its cut off. What I'm doing now is exporting, re importing to FCE, turning on title safe, and scaling the entire video down to that first border (in between the 2 lines). Will that solve the problem or will it give me a black line around the video on a TV?
To illustrate what I'm talking about: If this is a segment of title safe (the tv safe and title safe lines)
| v | + | v | The v is where I'm scaling my video boarder to.

The approach is correct, but the amount of scaling is very dependent on the TV. If you scale it to the second internal blue rectangle in the canvas (title safe) for sure you'll also have a black border around your video. In my experience it is sufficient to think of a rectangle slightly larger than the larger rectangle. But as I said it depends on the TV.
In my opinion the best approach is to avoid titles to exceed the title safe area, and important action to be close to the borders.
If you can connect your Mac to your TV using firewire (and a A/D converter - your camcorder might be used for that), you may monitor the effect of scaling directly on the TV during editing.
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Title safe problem on 4:3 tv

Hi all. Matt from Australia here. my question is this.
When I simulate my 16:9 project in DVDSP, with it set to 4:3 letterbox, it all looks good - all the text up the top of the screen is visible and is letterboxing as expected. When I play the burnt dvd back on my laptop - all is cool. However, when I play it back on my 4:3 tv in the letterbox mode, some of the title up the top is cut off and letters are missing. Like I said, in the dvdsp simulate mode it all looks great. If anyone can shed some light on this, it would be great. Thanks in advance - Matty

Are you saying that there is text in the black area above the video? What happens to that on a 16:9 TV? I guess you hope that people watch it as 4:3 with bars down the sides, and don't zoom the video to make the 16:9 video fill the 16:9 space.
Anyway, Action Safe and Title Safe rules would apply to the above situation. On most CRT TVs you'll lose 5% off the top and bottom of the picture completely, and another 5% may get lost or partly cropped. All text ought to be lower than 10% from the top, or higher than 10% from the bottom.
DVDSP has a safety option you can turn on, to preview where your text is likely to fall. Does that show any of the text being chopped off?

Action/Title Safe Areas

I am having problems setting up guides for safe areas and I wondered if
anyone else had some advice or tips.
In the Preferences under Grids & Guides the Action Safe and Title Safe are
preset to 10% and 20% respectively. But this relates to the size of the
comp, I am working in HD so my comp is 1920 x 1080 and the Title/Action safe
guides are set proportional to that. However in reality I have to set my
Title Safe area to be Title Safe for 4:3 within a 16:9 HD comp for
international sales to countries still using 4:3 TV.
If I change the value for the Title Safe area in the Preferences to say 30%
to show a guide closer to the 4:3 safe area I need to adhere to it changes
BOTH the width and the height so the width might be accurate but the height
is way out. On top of that I also have to work with 14:9 Title Safe areas
for some projects too so I'd like to see those.
I can drag guidelines to sit over the correct areas but this a pain as the
guides are just for each individual comp not all the nested comps I work
with when making the animation so I have to make them anew for every comp
and project to make sure text is safe, I can't just click on the Action/Safe
when I want to see it.
I downloaded a Photoshop comp from the BBC in the UK and have been importing
that as an overlay to check my Title safe but I really wanted to know if I
am missing something. Avid Media Composer for example shows guides for
widescreen comps 14:9 Action Safe, 14:9 Title Safe, 4:3 Action Safe and 4:3
Title Safe, is there nothing I can do in After Effects to have the guides
permanently set to multiple safe areas or even just the correct height and
width for 4:3 safe within a 16:9 comp?
Thanks in advance.
BBC links if anyone is interested:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/commissioning/tvbranding/picturesize.shtml
http://www.bbc.co.uk/commissioning/tvbranding/artwork1.shtml

Many thanks for those links silversurfer. When I compare them to the ones I
got from the BBC they don't match up though; your Action Safe is their 3:4
picture area and your Title Safe is wider than their Action Safe. This is
the other issue I have run into, that different broadcasters have different
specifications.
The guides the BBC give as safe margins for 4:3 Title Safe within a 16:9
widescreen frame are 10% top and bottom and 20.5% left and right. Doing the
math for an HD 16:9 frame makes a box 1132 pixels wide by 864 high with the
margins set at 394px left, 1526px right, 108px bottom and 972px top. (Their
4:3 Action Safe is 5% top and bottom and 17% left and right.)
It would be great in CS4 to be able to set templates that can quickly be
called up across comps and projects, the single percentage option they have
right now for both width and height is pretty useless. I have been importing
a Photoshop template but it's an inelegant kludge.
I was hoping I was being dumb and had missed a vital feature, but it seems
not! :-(

Custom overlays and modifying Safe Margins?

Hi folks,
I had a quick question and haven't been able to find proper information when researching... but would creating custom overlays and modifying the safe margin be theoretically possible within the SDK? If so what approach would be taken to do so?
If there is documentation on creating things such as this, and I've missed it, I apologize for wasting your time - however pointing me in the right direction would be much appreciated!
Thanks in advance.

Hi Ian,
You can modify the Safe Margin in the Project Settings > General > Action and Title Safe Areas.
There's no plug-in type for creating custom overlays for the Source and Program Monitors. I'm not sure what your idea is, but perhaps could achieve something similar using an effect plug-in. Effect plug-ins built using the After Effects SDK can have "Custom Composition UI", so that when the effect is applied to a clip and its header is selected in the Effect Controls Panel, it can draw over the video in the Monitor. You could create an adjustment layer and apply the effect to that clip, so that you could have an overlay over the entire timeline.

Lines and title flashing across the program monitor and in final export

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My Project:
Originated as a CS4 project, opened with CS5 and converted (did not import). Fixed all the title screwups, missing fonts, graphics, hooked up the off-line media etc etc. There are a couple of 1.5 hour nested AVCHD multi-camera sequences which look and play great. Then there are 2 of these monster sequences which are actually used as DVD menus and are about 44 seconds each. When I render these 7 layer menu sequences and play them back, these lines start flashing across the screen.
Of course the GTX 260 has the GPU unlocked and that works great for the 1.5 hour programs. But if I attempt to render the 44 second monsters Premier stops responding and I have to EndTask it (all CPUs drop to idle while not responding). These monster sequences might test the power of the Quadro CX. So when I work with the menu sequences, I set Premiere to use software GPU and not MPE. Then I can render (2 hours render time to preview 44 seconds with six cores at near 100%). So it does render, slowly.
I'm exporting an mpeg2 file now and will let you know if the lines show up in the final rendering. I can see the lines showing up on the MediaEncoder's small preview screen as it renders. Doesn't give me comfort.
OK worst case scenario. The lines ARE in the final mpeg2 file. Makes the file unusable garbage...
Is anyone else seeing flashing lines and titles?
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http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/5051/premierecs5lineandtitle.jpg
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The crop workaround was successful for removing the lines - worked great. There was the issue of the ghost text which you can see in the screenshot link provided above. This was not removed by crop. Crop removed the lines, but not the ghost. Thankfully, the 4 point garbage mask did work on the ghost and I was able to eliminate it. I had to apply the garbage mask on the sequence where Basic3D was applied not its parent sequence where VerticalFlip was used. The most important thing is that I've successfully migrated this CS4 project to CS5 and can now take advantage of 64bit processing (more RAM) to tame the beast. I'm using this sequence as a menu for a series of DVDs so my time expended will pay me back again and again.
The asset generating the ghost was built like this...
In the titler: Text was placed over a logo (.tiff file for logo and it was scaled and moved)
Base Sequence: Title was brought to two, stacked tracks. VerticalFlip, and LinearWipe were applied to one which was then moved to look like a reflection of the other
Next Sequence: Layed the Base Sequence down. Applied Basic 3D and moved it's XY position. (This is where I applied the GarbageMask to remove the ghost)
I tried separating the logo from the text thinking that the logo feature of the titler might be the problem. So I used a separate video track and pulled in the .tiff file directly. It didn't eliminate the ghost. Applying the GarbageMask to the base sequence also didn't help. It was only after Basic3D was applied that the ghost would appear. And since I have Basic3D applied to other reflected text-only layers which do not exhibit the ghost artifact, the bug has something to do with the text/graphic combination with VerticalFlip and Basic3D.
To top it all off, I can no longer recreate the problem. I've turned off the garbage mask and it's not showing up. While I was testing, the ghost was easy to recreate, but now I can't do it. So I don't appear to be able to drill down deeper. Perhaps it will come back at some point and I can test it further and update this thread.

I have finally figured out how to export an iphoto album so that I can maintain the proper order of the photos after burning the file. How do I keep each individual photo title and description after exporting and burning?

I have finally figured out how to export an iphoto album so that I can maintain the proper order of the photos after burning the file. How do I keep each individual photo title and description after exporting and burning? Presently after exporting and burning each photo is identified by the file name rather than each individual title description.

File name and Title are not the same thing.
Filename is attached to the Jpeg file in the Finder.
Title is attached to the photo within the Jpeg file - as is the description. These are written to the Exif and IPTC metadata on export.
So: File -> Export. Kind: Jpeg or Tiff and Check the box at 'Title and Keywords'. This will write the Title, keywords and descriptions (though not explicitly stated) to the metadata. This can then be viewed in any app that understand this material.
You can choose, if you wish, to also use the Title as a Filename - that's an option at File Name
Regards
TD

Title and Action Safe guides

Hi,
I am finally at the stage where we are going to start shooting some footage and testing our compositions on our project. My next big step, is to get my head around Action/Title safe areas. We are shooting for 16:9 widescreen, HD TV, but am i supposed to take the smaller standard TV screens into account? Keeping in mind that I am very new at this, I am getting confused between the zones and guides on AE. I see the centre-cut guides (for the smaller TV screens I guess) and then the normal guides for widescreen. If I compose all my shots for the standard TV screen, that means I will need to make up a lot of wasted space around them for the widescreen TV.
Once again, I know this is an AE forum, but I am using the excuse that AE has the guides, and thats what I am trying to understand! :-)
Any suggestions would be appreciated, or even some links to external forums or sites?
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Thank you for the reply.
Ill aim for the widescreen safety as you suggest. I have taken several shots of the characters now, using different lighting styles etc. Next week will be dedicated to Keylight. I am quite familiar with it, but want to get really really deeply involved. I am going to spend some time with multi passes and different tests.
Soon, (hopefully) I will be able to tell you all where to check out our work! :-)
Thanks again for the feedback.
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Basic Title safe and action safe zones questions

1.) Why is it that a title needs to be within the inner square, otherwise it may not display on a TV, though action can still take place in the outer square outside the title safe zone and it is still fine?
2.) Do these zones apply to CRT televisions, LCD, Plasmas, and video intended for being displayed through a projector the same way?
Thanks.

1. Safe area and safe title were developed many years ago, back when folks had TV sets with rounded corners. There was a real risk that a title would not be displayed in full if it went outside the boundary.
Pictures are interpretated differently to text. If say, someones left shoulder and arm are out of picture, it is obvious what is missing. An incomplete title can easily be misunderstood or not understood at all.
2. Unless you have absolute control over the device which will be displaying your movie, apply the rules to everything.

Title Safe and resizing menus

I've created all of my menus and I forgot to make sure they were set to be title safe. Is there a function in DVD SP that I can select and make the DVD title safe or do I have to manually re-size all of the menus and buttons, etc.

It's a manual job, I'm afraid... there's no way to automate this inside DVDSP. Sorry!
But welcome to the discussions

Title Safe Area and Action Safe Area

I understand the recomandations about the Title Safe Area and Action Safe Area (PDF p215).
I am wondering if this is still acurate today, considering many people in the U.S have widescreen TVs. I`m just wondering if anybody still have a TV that only shows the Title safe area?
Also, on a Widescreen TV, is there any chance to have only the Action safe area?
Thanks.

I very much doubt anyone has a TV that only displays title safe area and nothing outside of it... the Title Safe area is a percentage reduction from the outer edge of the image. If a TV is showing in the 4:3 aspect ratio, any image will be sized appropriately to fit, and the title safe will be proportional... 10% in from the outer edge.
The title safe area originally existed to allow for text to be showing without too much distortion on a curved TV screen. The Action safe area simply extended beyond this to the edge of the screen, and is 5% in from the edge of the footage.
In the days of CRT sets, the glass screen has a plastic bezel which masks the very edge of the screen, meaning the image disappears neatly behind it. Action safe areas are just those that will appear beyond the bezel and be visible, but which might distort sightly due to the curvature of the glass.
On a computer screen the entire image is seen regardless, as the geometry of the screen is adjusted to appear within the entire display, and so AS and TS areas don't really apply.
Whether or not your screen is widescreen doesn't matter, it's all about pixel aspect ratios. The image is displayed proportionately, and the visible areas are the same from screen to screen. When setting up photoshop images with guides to show AS and TS, you'll find that the TV image is 720px wide, and the guides are set at 36px from the left and right for the AS, and 72px in for the TS. The vertical size differs between NTSC and PAL, and thus the guides are positioned differently, but still 5 and 10% respectively.

'Title Safe' and 'Action Safe' boundaries

I assume that the 'Title Safe' area is the boundaries where the Title should not exceed, and that the Action Safe' area is a boundary that the action should not exceed. However, does this mean that nothing will show beyond those boundaries, or that you might run the risk of cutoff if they are exceeded?
Thanks!

Hi(Bonjour)!
All material that is outside the action safe zone cannot be viewed on a TV set, but will be seen on a computer screen.
+Broadcast monitors+ are designed to display this area too.
Try your camcorder by frame the action very close the edges and look the clip in viewer. You should see the extra area. Some pro camcorders do offer an showing overscan feature to monitor this area upon shooting.
Michel Boissonneault

Title Safe Modification

I am wondering, is there a way to change the perameters for the Title Safe image that you can toggle on and off? I'd love to have cinemascope title safe bars available. In the past, I've just created a 1920x1080 photoshop document, with black bars at the top and bottom, and just put that above all my video during editing. When exporting, I just crop it out, something like 14%... but I'm wondering if there's a more efficient way to do this DURING the editing process, rather than having to place the PS document over all the video on a hovering video timeline. Any thoughts? I've Googled around, but didn't see anything that immediately popped out as a solution, other than to just crop during export. But what I'm trying to do is have an established guideline during editing, so that I can properly place the video and adjust to match eyelines and all that. Thanks for your thoughts!

Thank you very much. That's exactly what I needed.
Good news, and thank you for posting the setting for Cinemascope too.
If that does it for you, perhaps read over this article: http://forums.adobe.com/thread/1058744?tstart=0
Good luck,
Hunt

Title Safe Frame problem

I am encountering a problem with the text location in the Viewer and the Canvas when using the Title Safe frame. When the Viewer shows the text in the Title Safe frame, the Canvas shows a few letters are outside the frame. I have decided to use what I see in the Canvas since that reflects what is in the Timeline. Is this what I should use? Why do they show the text in different positions?

Hi Ian: Here is my progress report.
This will bring you up to date on my burning problem. It is a little long but explains how this is a continuing problem that does not seem to have a solution.
Tom wrote to me in reply to my burning problem about size - mainly the size of free space required. I commented about marking i and o for a very short 7 minute sequence, exporting to QT and trying to burn a DVD. Even then I had a 34506 error (which I think is a size issue) and the ususal multiplexing comment. Tom said: “I don’t think iDVD’s that smart. It may hold space for a full disc regardless of your content, which is probably why the write out is so long”. He is certainly right.
I went back to my desktop, selected the QT MOVIE icon and found the size was 9.35 GBs. I then learned that for this movie I had put i and o marks for a 44 minute movie, BUT did not notice that “Self Contained” was checked.
Then I went back to the desktop and found the PROJECT icon that I had saved and this one showed 6 MB. I opened this PROJECT and deleted everything past the 44 minutes, which resulted in a project or sequence size of 3.8 MB. I then exported this to QT MOVIE. It then showed the size to be 5.8 GB – too large to burn on a DVD, if all of it is burned when you click on burn. I have used the i and o approach on some of my other sequences and they burned only the selected portion. Doesn’t iDVD encode the movie and compress and expand it? Tom was right. Putting i and o markers did not reduce the size of the QT movie. Amazing. The guidelines I have read say to select the part of your project you want to export by placing i and o in the project, then export to QT. The entire movie seems to be exported anyway, even though it may burn only part of it. Does this make any sense?
Continuing, I then reduced the size of the PROJECT to 30 minutes. That resulted in a QT movie of 3.8 GB. I still could not burn a DVD.
The part I do not understand is how I was able to burn the first four DVDs. The first one is 1 hr. 13 min. with 468 still photos and 160 movie clips. The second one is 1 hr. 8 min. with 191 still photos and 240 movie clips. The third one is 56 minutes with 116 still photos and 209 movie clips. The fourth one is 53 minutes etc. I had very few problems burning these four DVDs. I cannot burn DVD #5, which is only 44 minutes. Can anyone explain why? Something must be set incorrectly, but I can’t figure out what it is.
As for trying to burn using Disk Utility, I have not been successful. I get to a certain point and get “not enough space”. Could QT be causing the problem? I followed you guidelines, but am not familiar with one part: :"You can then burn it to CD/DVD in Disk Utility just as you would any other disk". Ian, I know little about using Disk Utility. Could you give me more guidelines here?
I now have 40 GB free on my HD, have trashed preferences, rendered both video and audio, mixdown, exported to QT and again tried to burn the 44 minute project, and again the same messsage, that is, 3506 error and multiplexing error.
If you can’t burn an FCE HD project what good is it - even if the main problem is not with FCE HD?
I am also posting this to Tom since he replied to my “Burn Problem” post. Does anyone have a solution? Could iDVD be corrupted? Sorry this is so long. John

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