Basic Title safe and action safe zones questions

1.) Why is it that a title needs to be within the inner square, otherwise it may not display on a TV, though action can still take place in the outer square outside the title safe zone and it is still fine?
2.) Do these zones apply to CRT televisions, LCD, Plasmas, and video intended for being displayed through a projector the same way?
Thanks.

1. Safe area and safe title were developed many years ago, back when folks had TV sets with rounded corners. There was a real risk that a title would not be displayed in full if it went outside the boundary.
Pictures are interpretated differently to text. If say, someones left shoulder and arm are out of picture, it is obvious what is missing. An incomplete title can easily be misunderstood or not understood at all.
2. Unless you have absolute control over the device which will be displaying your movie, apply the rules to everything.

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Try this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZFs85ZBSFA ["Zones"]
(some of this was "over the top" but the default basics are very useful.)
and if you need "center cut" safe zones:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--SFBOu42d0

4:3 title safe zone overlay for 16:9 anamorphic DV PAL timeline?

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Do you have FCP 7? Those are built in. Although they are notches, not full lines. If not...well, even if so, you can use these. They are GREAT! I use them. Andy's Guides:
http://web.mac.com/andymees/Freeand_Easy/main/Entries/2008/1/29_Andy’sGuides.html
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Hi everyone. I have just started producing TV commercials in FCP Studio and using the latest JVC HD camera. I am shooting and editing 16.9 but got caught today with the title just out of the 4.3 zone. As 80% of viewers in Australia dont have 16.9 sets this is important. How can i create a 4.3 title safe zone to put on top of my 16.9 canvas window as a guide.

Here is a free one...http://www.digital-heaven.co.uk/fcplugins/dh_widesafe.php
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just double-checked...it's NOT free
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Basic printing questions with safe zones, trim lines and bleeds

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Title and Action Safe guides

Hi,
I am finally at the stage where we are going to start shooting some footage and testing our compositions on our project. My next big step, is to get my head around Action/Title safe areas. We are shooting for 16:9 widescreen, HD TV, but am i supposed to take the smaller standard TV screens into account? Keeping in mind that I am very new at this, I am getting confused between the zones and guides on AE. I see the centre-cut guides (for the smaller TV screens I guess) and then the normal guides for widescreen. If I compose all my shots for the standard TV screen, that means I will need to make up a lot of wasted space around them for the widescreen TV.
Once again, I know this is an AE forum, but I am using the excuse that AE has the guides, and thats what I am trying to understand! :-)
Any suggestions would be appreciated, or even some links to external forums or sites?
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Pierre

Thank you for the reply.
Ill aim for the widescreen safety as you suggest. I have taken several shots of the characters now, using different lighting styles etc. Next week will be dedicated to Keylight. I am quite familiar with it, but want to get really really deeply involved. I am going to spend some time with multi passes and different tests.
Soon, (hopefully) I will be able to tell you all where to check out our work! :-)
Thanks again for the feedback.
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'Title Safe' and 'Action Safe' boundaries

I assume that the 'Title Safe' area is the boundaries where the Title should not exceed, and that the Action Safe' area is a boundary that the action should not exceed. However, does this mean that nothing will show beyond those boundaries, or that you might run the risk of cutoff if they are exceeded?
Thanks!

Hi(Bonjour)!
All material that is outside the action safe zone cannot be viewed on a TV set, but will be seen on a computer screen.
+Broadcast monitors+ are designed to display this area too.
Try your camcorder by frame the action very close the edges and look the clip in viewer. You should see the extra area. Some pro camcorders do offer an showing overscan feature to monitor this area upon shooting.
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Title/Action Safe Zones

Hello,
I have started a home 1080p project. Almost all my source files are shot that I need 100% of view. I plan to have my finalized movie in different formats 1080p as well as DVD and to be viewed on iOS devices.
My questions:
1) is frames' content that is beyond Safe Zones will be visible on DVD/TV or/and exported movie file.
2) if I resize all the frames to fit largest safe zone's frame, will I get black (unused space) visible in final movie?
Thank you.

Thank you Tom,
this project was shot using Canon's EOS 5D Mark II and all my background is photographic. These safe areas is something I need to consider in the future and learn somehow how much it is in viewfinder as there are no such marks in my camera.
Will see how it works when I have the project finalized.

Safe Title and Action Areas ...screwy set up!

Does Adobe Premiere have the Safe Title and Action Areas set up ...backwards? (i.e screwy)
I am resetting the areas according to latest Broadcast specs ( New Zealand) issued by BC Authority. '2012 Commercial Production Standard'
Quote from Spec sheets
High Definition (1920 x1080) with 4:3 Graphics safe and 14:9 Action Safe areas
14:9 Action Safe = 80% of 16:9 Width . 93% of Height
4:3 Graphics Safe = 65% of 16:9 Width . 90% of Height
So one reads that as: area covering 80% width and 93% height (and respectively area covering 65% width and 90% height)
(Area is the operative word as in Safe Area)
If these figures are entered into Premiere Project Set up..they display small areas. Inverse size.
Not areas proportional to the figures describingthe area. eg 80, 90 and 93% are certainly closer to 100% ( the whole area)
So what gives here?
FWIW: In the past I have used the 20, 20 and 10, 10 set up ..without actually thinking why it was done this way!
Out of interest : anyone got access to these specs for BBC or U.S stations. How are they described?
Here is how Wiki describes the safe area
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overscan

Thanx for posting that.
BTW: See Page 11 for the way BBC prescribe setup for Safe action Area.
Like NZ BC..it describes the inclusive safe area. Not like Premieres (screwy excluded area setup)
14:9 Caption safe
70% of Active Width
90% of Active Height
289 – 1632
55 – 1026
48 to 532 (F1) and 611 to 1095 (F2)
Be keen to see some U.S Specs

Title Safe Area and Action Safe Area

I understand the recomandations about the Title Safe Area and Action Safe Area (PDF p215).
I am wondering if this is still acurate today, considering many people in the U.S have widescreen TVs. I`m just wondering if anybody still have a TV that only shows the Title safe area?
Also, on a Widescreen TV, is there any chance to have only the Action safe area?
Thanks.

I very much doubt anyone has a TV that only displays title safe area and nothing outside of it... the Title Safe area is a percentage reduction from the outer edge of the image. If a TV is showing in the 4:3 aspect ratio, any image will be sized appropriately to fit, and the title safe will be proportional... 10% in from the outer edge.
The title safe area originally existed to allow for text to be showing without too much distortion on a curved TV screen. The Action safe area simply extended beyond this to the edge of the screen, and is 5% in from the edge of the footage.
In the days of CRT sets, the glass screen has a plastic bezel which masks the very edge of the screen, meaning the image disappears neatly behind it. Action safe areas are just those that will appear beyond the bezel and be visible, but which might distort sightly due to the curvature of the glass.
On a computer screen the entire image is seen regardless, as the geometry of the screen is adjusted to appear within the entire display, and so AS and TS areas don't really apply.
Whether or not your screen is widescreen doesn't matter, it's all about pixel aspect ratios. The image is displayed proportionately, and the visible areas are the same from screen to screen. When setting up photoshop images with guides to show AS and TS, you'll find that the TV image is 720px wide, and the guides are set at 36px from the left and right for the AS, and 72px in for the TS. The vertical size differs between NTSC and PAL, and thus the guides are positioned differently, but still 5 and 10% respectively.

TV and title safe .... exporting???

Hi
I'm exporting a clip to post to my blog and I've moved a few shots up and they are all in safe title and TV safe BUT when they export you can see what's underneath the clip????? That should not be happening?
Please help?
Thanks

To mirror what Jim said, because you don't seem to understand...
What you see on your monitor is EXACTLY what you will see if you export a QT movie to play on your computer. You see EVERYTHING. TVs tend to cut off some of this picture, due to the molding that holds the TV screen in place...plastic or metal covers a little of the front of the tube, thus blocking some of the image. Some TV screens were covered more than others...so TV safe takes into account the WORSE it could be. That any action inside that box is guaranteed to be seen. Title safe goes in a bit further so that the titles aren't on the edge of the screen.
Again, if you export for the web, this is moot...you get the entire image.
Shane

Action/Title Safe Areas

I am having problems setting up guides for safe areas and I wondered if
anyone else had some advice or tips.
In the Preferences under Grids & Guides the Action Safe and Title Safe are
preset to 10% and 20% respectively. But this relates to the size of the
comp, I am working in HD so my comp is 1920 x 1080 and the Title/Action safe
guides are set proportional to that. However in reality I have to set my
Title Safe area to be Title Safe for 4:3 within a 16:9 HD comp for
international sales to countries still using 4:3 TV.
If I change the value for the Title Safe area in the Preferences to say 30%
to show a guide closer to the 4:3 safe area I need to adhere to it changes
BOTH the width and the height so the width might be accurate but the height
is way out. On top of that I also have to work with 14:9 Title Safe areas
for some projects too so I'd like to see those.
I can drag guidelines to sit over the correct areas but this a pain as the
guides are just for each individual comp not all the nested comps I work
with when making the animation so I have to make them anew for every comp
and project to make sure text is safe, I can't just click on the Action/Safe
when I want to see it.
I downloaded a Photoshop comp from the BBC in the UK and have been importing
that as an overlay to check my Title safe but I really wanted to know if I
am missing something. Avid Media Composer for example shows guides for
widescreen comps 14:9 Action Safe, 14:9 Title Safe, 4:3 Action Safe and 4:3
Title Safe, is there nothing I can do in After Effects to have the guides
permanently set to multiple safe areas or even just the correct height and
width for 4:3 safe within a 16:9 comp?
Thanks in advance.
BBC links if anyone is interested:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/commissioning/tvbranding/picturesize.shtml
http://www.bbc.co.uk/commissioning/tvbranding/artwork1.shtml

Many thanks for those links silversurfer. When I compare them to the ones I
got from the BBC they don't match up though; your Action Safe is their 3:4
picture area and your Title Safe is wider than their Action Safe. This is
the other issue I have run into, that different broadcasters have different
specifications.
The guides the BBC give as safe margins for 4:3 Title Safe within a 16:9
widescreen frame are 10% top and bottom and 20.5% left and right. Doing the
math for an HD 16:9 frame makes a box 1132 pixels wide by 864 high with the
margins set at 394px left, 1526px right, 108px bottom and 972px top. (Their
4:3 Action Safe is 5% top and bottom and 17% left and right.)
It would be great in CS4 to be able to set templates that can quickly be
called up across comps and projects, the single percentage option they have
right now for both width and height is pretty useless. I have been importing
a Photoshop template but it's an inelegant kludge.
I was hoping I was being dumb and had missed a vital feature, but it seems
not! :-(

Project built without Action Safe Zone in Mind - help??

hello -
I am working with DVD Studio Pro for the first time and am having to take a project that was built in Final Cut for the web and burning it to DVD-Video in a 4:3 format.
The problem that I am having is that the project was built without Action Safe Zone in Mind and is getting cut off on the TV screen. Is there an easy way to just shrink the whole project in DVD Studio or FCP without having to touch the timeline?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks!

You could create a new sequence in FCP, then put the original sequence into that new sequence. Control-click the video track in the new sequence, open the motion tab, and re-scale the entire sequence.

Using 4:3 guides and title safe in 16:9 sequence.

Does anyone know if its possible to apply 4:3 guides and title safe to a 16:9 timeline sequence?
thanks

I'm not aware of being able to do it within the programme with regards using the canvas/viewer guides but it wouldn't take much to knock one up using opaque blocks in a shape generator and then just having those as the uppermost layer in your sequence for checking. You could also make a PSD file with lines on a transparent background in photoshop and employ the same way.
I take it your creating graphics etc as shot material would have hopefully taken this into consideration at the time of filming!

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