Types of Autonomous Access Point in the Cisco Market.

Hi All,
I am quite new to the wireless technologies. I need some help in understanding the basic models of Cisco wireless Hardware available in the market (Enterprise Level).
From my initial studies in past 24 hours what i understand is that Autonomous AP are the wireless AP which does not require Controllers. they needs to be configured on their on. So far i could find Cisco Aironet C1130 AG models which can be used as Autonomous Access Point.
Can anyone suggest any other Cisco AP which can be used as Autonomous Access Point?
Can 800 Series wireless routers be used as Autonomous Access Point?
Do we have any ISR Modules which can be inserted on a router to have a Autonomous Access Point?
Thanks.

I have short listed the routers in 800 series: 891W, 892W, 892F-W, C887VA-V-W, 861WDoes the command you have mentioned make these routers as Autonomous?
Of the 800 series (I have no knowledge about the 1900W), there are only five sub-models that have built-in wireless.
850W & 870W both have autonomous-only AP. These two models are already end-of-sale. So we scratch those two out of your list.
860W, 880W and 890W both have builti-in AP. The APs can operate EITHER in autonomous or controller-based. You can easily convert the AP from either controller-based to autonomous (and vice versa) by using the router command I've posted in my previous response.
A simple guide when dealing with the 800-series router. Notice that we end our models with a "0"? This basically is the sub-model. The one's that you've listed ends with different digit, like a 1, 2, 7. This is the "flavours". 7, for example. are xDSL WAN interface. If it ends in a 1, the WAN interface is Fast/GigabitEthernet. If I remembered correctly, the 2 has a fibre optic port as a WAN interface. The 887VA means it's a xDSL with Annex "M", I think, and it's geared up for voice.
It would be great if you could point out some models or PID of AP which will work in ISR G2 2900 3900 routers.
Go here. I'd recommend the 2600 access point. There are two sub-models: one with internal antenna (ends with an "I") and one with an external antenna (ends wth an "E"). If you want the "E", be aware that you need to purchase the appropriate antennas separately. If the APs are to be used indoors, use the "I".
Go through this other document: Wireless LAN Compliance Status
Make sure you get the appropriate AP with the correct regulatory domain of the country where the AP is going to be installed. For example, if the AP will be installed in USA, then get the one with the regulatory domain of "SAP2602I-A-K9" where "-A" is the regulatory domain of the USA.

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Hi tm,
You can convert AIR-LAP1121G-K-E9 to autonamus access point,pls do follow the procedur
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Step 6
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Step 7
Hold the MODE button until the status LED turns red (approximately 20 to 30 seconds) and then release.
Step 8
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Hi Abhishek,
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We prefer you to check these commands & make sure they works in the products mentioned in this thread before responding.
Otherwise your/Cisco credibility lost based on the responses you make, if they are not related to the question asked.
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http://forums.linksys.com/linksys/board/message?board.id=Wireless_Routers&thread .id=67412
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The 1530 should have the image k9w8 alreadyin flash:
Autonomous Mode Configuration
The 1530 Series allows the Unified (controller-based) and Autonomous mode software to be loaded at the factory on the same hardware part number. This eliminates the need for separate part numbers for controller-based units and autonomous mode units.
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AP # capwap ap autonomous (# means privileged EXEC mode)
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config t
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Refreshing access points in the environment, models???

I am slowly going through the environment replacing the 80 AIR-1252 access points. I have decided to replace our 1142s at the same time so that the environment is up to date. I was curious what the recommended replacement is for these access points. I saw that Cisco recommends the 1262 as the replacement for the 1252.
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Well the 1262 did replace the 1252, but then Cisco came out with the 3502e and the 3602e. So maybe what you should look at is using the 2602i's in the office areas and maybe the 2602e's in the rugged area or even look at the 3502e/3602e. This way you have all AP's that can support CleanAir.
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Scott
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