Unplanned depreciation negative in Derived depr area ECC 6.0

We are trying to post unplanned depreciation in Book1 using ttype 641 and the system is not allowing us to post, as we have a derived depreciation area for
Book vs Macrs..
The message is AA639
Unplanned depreciation is negative in area 25.....Where area 25 is the derived depreciation area.
Any suggestions to overcome this as we only want to post to book1.
Thank you

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Also, when we adjust the ord dep start date to < April 26, the original planned depreciation is not affected for the current FY but only the next FY and moving forward.
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I have a requirement where i want to post Unplanned/Manual depreciation for asset for period 12 where i have already posted ordinary depreciation and now when i am trying to change the post key i am getting a message "Enter a depreciation key with 'depreciation by days'
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a depreciation key with 'depreciation by days' you can only change in a depreciation key with 'depreciation by days'
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Assets created in SAP. At a point, these assets had stopped
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provided for directly in the GL manually (via a jnl).
User wishes to re-capture the revised APC and Accumulated Depreciation
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Dear Dattatray,
The issue here is not with the fact that no depreciation values have posted. The issue is with the values that have been posted. Let me illustrate by way of example.
Asset start date for depr: Changed to 01.01.2008
Useful life of asset: 3 years, 4 months (40 months)
Write up of asset posted March 2008: EUR 135,492.18
Unplanned Depr of asset posted March 2008 EUR 93,605.12
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Expectation:-
Based on this NBV of EUR 41,887.06 you would expect depr to post at EUR1,047.18 per month (41,887.06 / 40 months) over the remaining life of asset. In this case, 3 months would be caught up in March as asset depr start date is 01.01.2008, and balance of EUR1,047.18 to be posted per month until asset written off 3 years and 4 months down the line.
What is happening in SAP:-
Depreciation for FY 2008 is only being calculated on the write-up value of EUR 135,492.18 and not the NBV. Therefore, for FY2008, depreciation is being calculated at EUR 3,387.30 per month (EUR135,492.18 / 40 months).
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In FY2009, depr posted = EUR 531.19 (44.27 per month)
In FY 2010, depr posted = EUR 531.19 (44.27 per month)
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Edited by: s sq on Mar 29, 2008 7:12 AM
Edited by: s sq on Mar 31, 2008 9:42 AM

Dominic
Your this suggestion is really helpful. My client requirement is also that it should look into other ordinary depreciation and since my multilevel has APC-unplanned.
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We are now trying to post the YTD depreciation back in under the original company code, but when we try posting unplanned depreciation, the following error message appears -
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I tried to write up the Unplanned Depreciation using Transaction Code.ABZU
Am getting an Error : You Cannot Post Write- ups
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Message no. AA402
Diagnosis
None of the areas to be posted in accordance with the transaction type entered manages one of the depreciation types entered or cumulative values.
Procedure
Check the transaction type.
But i have checked with the Transaction Code : OAXE
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Hi
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