Useful Life in Dep Key "to the day"
Hi,
we have two depreciation areas one for IN gaap and the other for US GAAP. In GAAP has depreciation keys with "to the day" feature and the US GAAP has depreciation keys created with useful life feature.
Now the issue is since useful life has got no role in the case of IN GAAP, whenever we create asset we press enter enter and the same usefule life as per US GAAP get copied in the US GAAP also as it has no relevance for calculation.
The problem is that if i enter only period 1 as useful life for US GAAP( meaning that the asset is to be fully depreciated in one month for US GAAP purpose) and the same period 1 is entered in IN GAAP. then for IN GAAP my full asset is getting depreciated in 6 months wheras the depreciation key assigned to it is 13,91 wdv method( with to the day tick).
I changed the period 1 and made it 999 for IN GAAP purpose and tested it in test system and then system is showing correct values.
Can anyone throw some light on this issue as to why it is changing in case of useful life when the dep to the day is ticked in depreciation key.
Regards,
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Dear Experts,
I have a requirement in one of my client, We need to extend the useful life of asset in mid of an asset fiscal year and the depreciation which was posted in the previous should not be changed.
Requirement:
Useful life of asset is to be extended after completing depreciation for 4 years and in-between the current asset fiscal year. Provided the present asset value has to be taken as the new book value of the asset and the depreciation posted henceforth to be posted based on the new asset value till the remaining useful life.
Previously posted depreciation should be unchanged.
Analysis:
1. The fiscal Year followed - October to September.
2. The useful life of asset will be changed, and the depreciated value posted till 31/mar 2014 will have the old depreciation value ( based on the original acquisition value)
3. The Depreciation key used in of type LINR (linear), depreciation value will be calculated based on the Book value till the asset value becomes ZERO at the end of useful life of the asset.
4. We can change the useful life of the asset at the end of a Asset fiscal year say FY- 2014, if this is done the existing configuration will take the Book value of the asset at the end of the Fiscal as the asset value and the new depreciation will be calculated based on the new useful life of the asset. The asset value will become ZERO at the end of the newly changed Useful Life.
5. But the requirement is that the useful life of the asset will be changed exactly half way in between existing Asset fiscal (i.e., 31/03/2014), if this is done system will change the depreciation value based on the new useful life ( since the Dep Key is LINR), but the depreciation value will change from the fiscal start say October 2013 to September 2014 ), which will not satisfy the requirement of the client. Since the depreciation which is already posted from October 2013 to March 2014 should not be changed.
Note:
1. We are not willing to retire the asset and create a new asset with the remaining book value as asset value and start depreciation.
Kindly let me know if the requirement can be fulfilled without retiring the asset.Dear All,
This requirement has been completed.
1. I created New Multi level valuation method with base 26 ( Net book value w/o Revaluation ).
2. New depreciation key was created and the above method was assigned to it. I never changed the Base method.
3. new interval was created in the depreciation area, with this created dep key and extended the useful life of the asset. The depreciation was calculated according to the requirement.
Originally the asset had useful life of 5 Years, I changed the asset useful life to 8 years now with new Depreciation key 2001.
Depreciation was already posted to the asset till 04- 2013 for an amount of 148.27 SAR.
Net Book value carried forward to 2013 = 1575.56 SAR
Depreciation already posted till 4th period = 148.27 SAR
Current Net book value after useful life extension = 1427.29 SAR .
Now the new depreciation key 2001 with Multilevel method 201, will take this Net-book value as Asset value and will depreciate along the useful life of the asset till it becomes zero.
Planned depreciation of 2013 ( remaining 6 months) = 166.24 SAR
Planned depreciation of 2014 = 225.96 SAR
Planned depreciation of 2015 = 225.96 SAR
Planned depreciation of 2016 = 225.96 SAR
Planned depreciation of 2017 = 225.96 SAR
Planned depreciation of 2018 = 225.96 SAR
Planned depreciation of 2019 = 131.25 SAR
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In OAYZ, I have just given the dep. key and the fields of useful life and period is blank for all the dep. areas. Also, tried with useful life 5 but result is same.
In Asset Master, I have mentioned the useful life as 5 years for all the dep. area.
The problem is system is system is showing the values based on useful life of 10 years, why I don't know what shall I do please suggest....
I have checked it by creating some of other assets as well with different useful lives but the result is same.
Please help!!!
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If i purchased a asset in rs 200000 , wdv rate is 20% and put the useful life 4 year, in last year i want to depreciate the asset upto 1 Rs.
Capitalisation date is 01.04.2008.
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2011 200,000.00 20,480.00- 81,920.00
2012 200,000.00 81,920.00
Client requirement is in year 2011 asset should depreciate upto Rs 1.
Appreciate your reply.
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