Using VSS Source Control via RoboHelp

Is there a way to connect RoboHelp directly to a local VSS
database in order to use the same Source Control database as the
rest of the dev. team?

Hi Sevans,
Indeed there is. You can plug the source into a library (this
will need to be set up by the VSS administratory) BUT just to be
clear, Robohelp does not integrate with VSS directly like some
development tools, it has its on Source control program for that
Robohelp Souce Control. You will need to follow some basic
practices to ensure that you source remains robust. Are you talking
about using VSS just to pull in the source OR to allow multiple
authors to work on the same project?
Kind Regards
Craig

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Many are confused by the subtle differences. You are absolutely correct in your statement of:
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hi, smercurio…
i've tried your way. but it doesn't work. :-(
but your idea helps me. i've tried some times and it's OK now. thank you. :-)
here are my steps. ( is it right? )
1. start LabVIEW.
2. Tools >> Options >> Source Control. select source control provider name as my microsoft VSS. no error message.
3. Then set my source control as None. a warning dialogue popup, "You have selected not to use any source control provider". Yes to continue.
4. exit LabVIEW
5. edit LabVIEW.INI. delete the part of source control. ( like the attached picture).
6. Start LabVIEW. and reset the source control as normal.
Bingo! it's OK. :-)
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