Verizon CEO: Windows Phone To Beat BlackBerry

Article, http://www.informationweek.com/news/231601997
VZW maybe if you add more WP7 devices to your line up you can speed up the ecosystem and place WP7 as the third  platform
You can't just sit there and watch the other carriers enjoy customer satisfaction with WP7 without participating

I am surprised by CEO comments, first he said that Windows Phone 7 is not innovative enough and now has changed his tune to say it could be part of the top 3 players.  It is really sad CEO has no clue of what Windows Phone 7 brings to the table with its refreshing, unique and effective metro interface. 
Last year I jumped from Verizon to ATT just for the WP7, and am a happy camper.  This year if I dont see any interest by Verizon on WP7 Mango  am moving my wife to ATT and get the Samsung Focus S.  Goodbye Verizon !!!

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  • Verizon Employees Actively Discouraging customers from Buying Windows Phones

    My wife and I both decided to buy Windows phones this time around.  We had previously been Android people but wanted to try something different.  We walked into our local corporate store (somewhere in TX) and when we told the salesman what we wanted (weren't interested in, but WANTED) he told us "you don't want those".  We tried for a few minutes to convince him that YES, we did want those and when that didn't work we eventually had to go and get a manager in order to actually purchase the things we came in for.
    After looking at all of the forums outside of Verizon it seems that this is the normal experience.
    This is unacceptable.  I don't care if you want to buy an iPhone, a Nexxus, an Icon, or an HTC One M8.  There is no excuse for this kind of behavior.  VZW needs to take a good look at their culture and remind their employees that they are a vehicle for delivery to the public, not gatekeepers.  We need to let the CEO know about what is going on in his stores.
    You can contact Mr. Daniel S. Mead (CEO) by going to www.verizon.com/about/leader/contact/73.
    Maybe if enough of us say something they'll try to at least pretend they appreciate our money.
    Also, it would be really great if he would consider releasing the WP 8.1/Cyan update which is already sitting in VZW's hands at some point.

    Yea, I've posted about this very thing before.  As the techie in the family and for all my friends, everyone comes to me before they purchase any tech gear (as well as having me for their free support hotline. )  When I take people into Verizon and discuss the pros and cons of each of the phone operating systems as well as the devices themselves, I give the individual the choice as to which device they purchase.  But if the person chooses a Windows Phone, almost every time the Verizon staff actively tries to push them towards Apple or Android.  There's even been times that Verizon told us that there is no such thing as a Windows Phone.  Just a few days ago, I took someone in and they wanted the Icon.  The clerk said there was no such thing.  I took them over to the wall and showed it to them.  They became quite angry and unprofessional.  I grabbed the manager and she didn't care.  The person still wanted the Icon and when they brought out the phone, they brought out the iPhone and tried to set us up with that.
    Unfortunately, it's not isolated to one store or one city.  I personally know many people around the USA where the Verizon store staff have shown the same animosity towards Windows.

  • Microsoft all ready has an update for Windows Phone 8.1 Verizon customers still don't have WP 8.1. UGH!

    Microsoft has all ready released an update to Windows Phone 8.1. Us Verizon customers don't even have WP 8.1. *** Verizon?  My contract with Verizon is up in November this is the tipping point.  I am not going to renew my contract.  I will just buy the phone out right and sign up for Straight Talk.  Then I don't need to have the "Nanny service provider (Verizon)" telling me when I am able to obtain a device update.  Thanks for nothing Verizon.

    On one side, I can understand that maybe (and that's a BIG maybe) Verizon wants to make sure they have enough data (pardon the pun) regarding the successful adaptation of the update for it's customers in order to make sure everything goes smoothly.  However, I find that Verizon likes to keep customers in the dark regarding time frames.  It's interesting to see on some of the similar titles message boards entries on this topic have Verizon monitors ready to wipe out entries if they violate terms of service on the forums.  But, when asked directly about time frames for Windows updates, you either get a link to some Verizon news page (which is of no help), or nothing at all.  A number of people called Verizon customer service and get varied answers like: "Sometime this summer", "Soon", or even an "I don't know, they don't even tell us either"...which is the answer I got one time.  Very discouraging.  I had a choice between the Windows Phone, or a Samsung Galaxy phone.  I chose Windows because of it's features.  Beginning to regret it now, since support for it on Verizon appears to be dismal at best.   

  • Does Verizon really care about the windows phones??

    I recently bought the Nokia 928 and as a "tech-impaired" person I am really happy with it. This is my second smart phone and I find it much easier to navigate than my Motorola Droid 3.   My co-worker (who is similarly impaired!) wanted to update to her first smart phone and had visited her local Verizon store to browse the various phones.  All that was EVER mentioned to her or shown were various Razrs, the Samsung Galaxies, and of course I-phones.  She saw the 928 demo phone there but it was never even offered as a choice so she didn't ask about it.  When she saw my phone she asked my thoughts, and asked to "play" with it.  I showed her some of the things she could do that I have found to be not difficult.  Bottom line she decided she liked the ease of operation, knew she did NOT need Suri and thought the Samsung Galaxy S 4 had way too many features for what she would ever need. She went back to the store and they did not even have a 928 in stock.  They did order her one, but she said that I knew way more about what the phone could do than anyone there.  I told her to ask about the 25 dollar gift certificate available through the end of June that could be used for Microsoft apps, they knew NOTHING about that either.  When I bought my phone I asked the store rep who was helping me (in a different town) and she was also unaware of it; but at least she found out and helped me set up a Microsoft account and got the certificate onto my phone.  She laughed and admitted she really knew very little about the Windows phone set up.  It really does seem that Verizon just doesn't care much about this platform and does not give their customers this choice since they virtually ignore that it even exists.

    Thats why I normally do not get involved with writing on message boards, especially corporate boards, too many company employees write comments like that on behalf of their office…and yes, cellular service and home communications services are a little more that a “soda” and yes, I do expect loyalty to be a two way street….end of thread, unsubscribed from this farce….

  • Verizon mades changes in the coding and now Windows Phone 7 is having data issues!!!

    Starting about 3 weeks ago, I stopped receiving text messages and even worse stopped receiving calls yet alone my voicemails.  I have changed not one thing to my phone, everything is exactly the way it was before the issues arised.  Now I have to trick my phone to receive my data by dialing into my voicemail...  And then what do you know, 30 text mesages, 12 voicemails!!!
    The voicemails wont even tell you the date or time stamp (the time the voicemail was received).  After numerous *228 and talking with level 2 over the holidays, I see a huge article on multiple news sites stating Verizon is having data issues...  Dropped calls, loss of data, no signal while all our phone keep showing full bars and 3g.  Verizon stated its only happening on there 4gLTE system and not 3G but thats a load of crap.
    All one has to do is a google search of loss of text messages or voicemails on Verizon and you will see 100's up to 1000's of users like you and me all experiencing the same issues.  And not just with Windows Phone 7, but with there baby Driod and iPhone as well.
    What really ****** me off is that Verizon loves to play the blame game or pass the buck game.  Hard Reset your phone and that will solve the problem...  Yeah Right.  If this was our OS and we updated a driver that changed the OS in the background I can see that being the solution.  But for the 100's or 1000's of users that go to work daily, check there emails and text daily, and haven't changed one thing on the phone... THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE!!!
    Now I read an articile for someone extermely close to Microsoft stating that Verizon turned down Nokia's new 4GLTE phone because they have no faith in the operating system and I have to think that maybe behind the scenes Verizon is trying to force us off Windows Phone 7 platform with data issue behind the scene and try to get us all into the Droid Platform which they make 50% of the cash off the phone just like the iPhone...
    This is a joke, and I am really starting to think about going to ATT and getting the HTC Titan or the new Nokia 900.  I have already research a 3 party app that will allow you to backup and restore your phone.  And just read that Microsoft just put out an ad for backup, restore and cloud backup programmers for this latest feature.
    Verizon the games need to stop, Verizon you need to stand behind this Platform, Verizon you need to provide better service for all us 3G users!!!
    TheJester77

    Starting about 3 weeks ago, I stopped receiving text messages and even worse stopped receiving calls yet alone my voicemails.  I have changed not one thing to my phone, everything is exactly the way it was before the issues arised.  Now I have to trick my phone to receive my data by dialing into my voicemail...  And then what do you know, 30 text mesages, 12 voicemails!!!
    The voicemails wont even tell you the date or time stamp (the time the voicemail was received).  After numerous *228 and talking with level 2 over the holidays, I see a huge article on multiple news sites stating Verizon is having data issues...  Dropped calls, loss of data, no signal while all our phone keep showing full bars and 3g.  Verizon stated its only happening on there 4gLTE system and not 3G but thats a load of crap.
    All one has to do is a google search of loss of text messages or voicemails on Verizon and you will see 100's up to 1000's of users like you and me all experiencing the same issues.  And not just with Windows Phone 7, but with there baby Driod and iPhone as well.
    What really ****** me off is that Verizon loves to play the blame game or pass the buck game.  Hard Reset your phone and that will solve the problem...  Yeah Right.  If this was our OS and we updated a driver that changed the OS in the background I can see that being the solution.  But for the 100's or 1000's of users that go to work daily, check there emails and text daily, and haven't changed one thing on the phone... THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE!!!
    Now I read an articile for someone extermely close to Microsoft stating that Verizon turned down Nokia's new 4GLTE phone because they have no faith in the operating system and I have to think that maybe behind the scenes Verizon is trying to force us off Windows Phone 7 platform with data issue behind the scene and try to get us all into the Droid Platform which they make 50% of the cash off the phone just like the iPhone...
    This is a joke, and I am really starting to think about going to ATT and getting the HTC Titan or the new Nokia 900.  I have already research a 3 party app that will allow you to backup and restore your phone.  And just read that Microsoft just put out an ad for backup, restore and cloud backup programmers for this latest feature.
    Verizon the games need to stop, Verizon you need to stand behind this Platform, Verizon you need to provide better service for all us 3G users!!!
    TheJester77

  • This is for Verizon Customer Service: Is there an estimated date for the 8.1 Denim update for Windows Phones?

    Will Cyan be rolled out for the Icon, or should we expect to wait until Denim is supposed to be rolled out around October
    << Moderation discussion removed to comply with Verizon Wireless Terms of Service >>  This is a very specific question and Verizon Customer Service can't answer it if they don't have a chance to read the question.
    I spoke with Microsoft Customer service, and the agent specifically said MS already pushed Cyan to Verizon, and he, as a WP owner on Verizon, was also frustrated that the updates haven't been rolled out by VZW.
    So bottom line question: Skipping Cyan? If so, what is the Denim date?
    Message was edited by: Verizon Moderator

    Unfortunately the answer is unknown.  The majority of the Windows phone threads here are about this exact subject, and that says a lot about Verizon and their ability to communicate on a basic level.  You might get your update, you may not.  Verizon is in control and doesn't really care.

  • I Think It's Time That Verizon Opens Up Testing Of Updates & Firmware To The Windows Phone Community!!!

    Waiting for Verizon to release updates on a reasonable time table has become a complete failure.  If you only have a couple technicians in house testing the 4-5 devices you only carry and it takes this long, there's a problem with your technicians.
    If you don't want to allocate the time, money and resources to a platform that your sales reps never push or even mention in stores, or on your website or over the phone, I think it's time to either drop the line completely or turn to the Windows Phone Community to do your job for you.
    I think it's time that Verizon takes a queue from Microsoft and opens up testing of updates and firmware to any and all Windows Phone Users that want to help the cause and better support the platform in the process.  You can have your legal department draft up a clause that releases Verizon of any liability if a user opts to test updates or firmware. 
    What else better than to have the Community help in the cause (in masses) over the limited few technicians you have in house testing out the updates and firmware.  You will get all the feedback you will need to make a proper decision as to push the updates or firmware or go back to Microsoft and make fixes to any/all bugs that are found.
    In a technological age we live in, to not take advantage of a community of users who would be more than willing to test out products, goods, services, you are just shooting yourself in the foot.
    If you look at the numbers of how many users signed up to be part of Microsoft's Developer Preview app, you will see that there are millions of users willing to take the risk in order to help the cause while being a part of the testing process, making the platform better in the long run.
    It's time for change, it's time to embrace the community, it's time to respond at let the community know one way or another if we are going to get updates and firmware in a timely manner... and not just one update or firmware in a year cycle.
    Windows (9) is going to be released to the general public as Technical Preview on September 30, and you can guarantee that millions of users are going to download the OS and test it out and submit feedback via the OS and Microsoft's Community Forum in order to make it a success...  So why don't you Verizon do the same and open up beta testing of updates and firmware to the Windows Phone Community here!!!
    Think about it, take a poll... but do something, one way or another... It's time to stop keeping us paying customers in the dark regarding updates and firmware that improves the experience, enhances our devices and provides the security that we need for our phones.  If you take good care of us, we will continue to be customers, renew our contracts or even sign up for Verizon Edge Accounts.
    But if you keep us in the dark, you can guarantee that you will get customers leaving when there contracts are up because Windows Phone Users are loyal to Windows Phone... PERIOD!!!
    Waiting for Tidbits and Elector to grace my post with there constant negativity and start a war of words as usual... since they love stirring the pot and angering the Windows Phone Community every time they reply to posts.  I just can't believe they spend that much time here on the forums replying if they are not a paid Verizon employee or a paid basher from a competing platform.

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    Waiting for Tidbits and Elector to grace my post with there constant negativity and start a war of words as usual... since they love stirring the pot and angering the Windows Phone Community every time they reply to posts.  I just can't believe they spend that much time here on the forums replying if they are not a paid Verizon employee or a paid basher from a competing platform.
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    Well I found nothing wrong in your post. So why even make a statement like the quote I included?
    Once more I am a retired government employee. So I have the time to post. Or has my rights been taken away to voice an opinion?
    Your posts was great you were not whining about your rights to file complaints to the FCC or FTC etc. One of the best I have read.
    And I am not trying to sway you from your phone choice. If you looked at my avitar it shows apple iphones. But I use and have used androids and not Windows phones.
    However your numbers of windows phone users all leaving over the issue is miniscule in the number of users of Android and iOS devices.
    I have written many times I wish all the devices get updated like iOS devices do. But at present that is not happening
    No bashing, no adversarial post just a little common sense is all I use.
    And again your post was great.
    Good Luck

  • Verizon Apps Wishlist for Windows Phone 7

    I have seen leaked details of the My Verizon app for Windows Phone 7 online.  It looks like it lets people view their plan, update their profile, view usage, see vcast vidoes, and it has a cool family locator.   What apps or features do people want to see from Verizon once WP7 launches?
    Here's my list:
    - Visual Voicemail
    - Tethering App

    Windows Phone 7 as of NoDo update which includes CDMA support also has Copy & Paste built in so no app needed there.
    Twitter apps exist and when Mango update rolls out later this year will also have twitter integrated just as Facebook presently is.
    Multitasking is coming with Mango update and appears to be pretty quick and easy to use. I've seen demo's and it is looking good.
    The phone should sync with your live account without any problems. On the other hand Exchange I'm not sure of but it would be odd for MS not to support thier own software offerings with other software they supply. I believe it depends on what accounts are loaded into the phone and from there it will be able to sync the phone to exchange which is what Outlook usually relies on.
    I see the only thing really is Twitter integration as somewhat relevant for those who tweet. I don't tweet so it is of no concern to me. Multitasking I can live without for the time being and will be nice to have down the road. Copy Paste is built in so you can scratch that off your list. Sync should work as well but I cannot confirm this especially without any knowledge of what your setup looks like presently. I would assume it works though.

  • Anyone else notice Verizon's complete disinterest with Windows Phone?

    I decided to take a peek through Verizon's facebook and Twitter pages for a quick minute, on the day that Verizon announced pre-orders are available for Windows Phone, they took to twitter and promoted that there is a new droid coming on the 13th and to get sneek peeks of it. Followed by tweets everyday with the tag #droidoes, why doesn't verizon put this kind of effort into windows phone instead of just a new droid every 2 months? I want more than just 2 mid range windows phones for the same price as most higher end models.

    Agreed.
    If Verizon personnel in charge of phone procurement ever bother to peruse their Windows Phone forums, they'll know why they might be receiving lukewarm, nay, tepid response to Windows Phone 8 on their network.  The days of perceived cautiousness because of the Kin debacle should've been over with and forgiven on the introduction and overly positive reception of WP7 of the HTC Trophy.  For Verizon to continue the throttled reception of WP8 with a half-hearted selection of Windows Phone 8 devices is a disservice to their customers. 
    If you're listening Verizon, this is not a chicken and egg argument.  You found a partially interested audience to your WP8 launch because you put forth a partial introduction to WP8 phones.

  • When Will A New Windows Phone Be Released on Verizon?

    When will a new windows phone be released on verizon? What phone will it be? What are you using to get this information?

    Let this be known, there is absolutely no way in hell that I'm playing the same ******** VERIZON GAME with the same rules they made up last year that include:
    A. Making thier customers wait a year and half, that's is literally 4-18 months longer than any other carrier worldwide
    B. Limit the feature set so much that other carriers phone of basically the same model seem to be rooted (no tether, no screen shots, etc.)
    C. Release it with almost zero support, the best I could find was a verizon support tech that guessed and fumbled around because there was no training for the trophy's and almost a month after getting it no one could help me get it to work right with voicemail, MM text sending and receiving or even getting it to purchase apps from the marketplace (it would ask for a valid credit card for my account and I had vaild credit cards in every one of Microsoft Live ID accounts) leading me to this
    D. I finally figured out a large part of the issue, would have never even happened if Verizon would have provided instructions on something the size of a post it note, for a customer setting up their inital account when very first logging into the phone... Seriously without exageration, after loading and resetting the phone 4 times over a 2 month period both at the instruction of techs that "knew" this issue, and that was 2 of them after talking to about 8 support techs on the phone and going to 3 different stores 2 to them 3 times each (once with 3 of them working on it for about an hour and 15 minutes AND NO ONE was able to ID a large part of the issues I was having as being my Zune account, Xbox Live account, Certified Partner Account and Live/Hotmail email accounts all needed to be created using the same user ID and password and that's the one you need to use to initially set the phone up...
    I understand Verizon had a hard-on for Microsoft for partnering up with ATT early on, but hell, with the lack of marketing, support, customer service and general all round **** poor attidude...
    Seriously?? ***... The best answer is a god **** guesstimate... Anyway, if I even smell any of that same ******** this time (and yes, that is a legal name for use given how Verizon treats the Windows Phone platform and the customers that want to use it) I'm totally ABVing it (that would be Anyone but Verizon)

  • Why is my flagship WINDOWS PHONE being ignored by Verizon?

    I bought the NOKIA LUMIA ICON after being told I would receive the WP 8.1 OS update. It has been too many months to count since this has been released to every other phone on any other carrier BUT Verizon!!!
    I want my WINDOWS PHONE 8.1 and Cyan UPDATE for the ICON!!!!!

    Yep another place to send complaints that will do absolutely no good.
    They simply change the email address to go to a null server. I use to do that with our government email that was sent to employees who changed their addresses, left the agency, had too much spam sent to them.
    email bombardment etc etc. etc.
    And the obvious thing is they don't read any of their own email.
    Unless you know the person at the company personally the email sent to that address either disappears in to the black hole of emaildom, or is monitored by a secretary or office clerk. In either case totally useless.

  • Verizon & Windows Phones

    I was just reading the article on Verizon an their lack of Windows Phones:
    http://wmpoweruser.com/guess-how-far-verizon-has-fallen-in-the-windows-phone-stakes/#more-117499
    It amazes me how even much smaller companies are carrying the Windows Phones and Verizon just isn't carrying many.
    There's a large market for Windows Phones, but Verizon just doesn't seem to want to be part of it.

    << Personal comment removed to comply with Verizon Wireless Terms of Service >>
    Anyway, Windows Phone 8 is far from a "failure". While it's growth has been slow - it has been steady, particularly internationally.  "Google" that.
    Your comments are nothing more than conjecture, and the original poster made some valid points.
    WP8 adoption on Verizon has been mediocre at best compared to other carriers for a few reasons. One being that Verizon offers only a few devices and none of the budget devices that have really carried WP8 sales, such as the Nokia Lumia 520, 521, 620, 625 and 720. Another reason could be that Verizon's forced redesign of the Nokia Lumia's hurt their image and recognition, of the 3 WP8 devices Verizon has carried over the last year and a half, none have had the same design as Lumias available everywhere else - or the vast color selection which make Nokia Lumia's so recognizable. The Lumia has won several design awards for a reason, it makes no sense for Verizon to change it. A result of Verizon's demand on Nokia also delayed the Lumia Icon (a device that has received much praise from the tech community), which should have been released last year - same with the Lumia 928 which wasn't much more than Verizon's version of the 920 but came out several months after.
    It actually makes business sense for Verizon to invest at least slightly in Windows Phone, but it seems Microsoft and/or Nokia has decided to align themselves more with AT&T, as they receive nearly all WP8 devices and some exclusives like the Lumia 1020 (the one with the 41 MP camera) and the Lumia 1520 (6" device). So, unfortunately Verizon has resorted to little tricks to differentiate their devices and in reality they have only hobbled them.
    I enjoy my Windows Phone so much that if Verizon doesn't offer an adequate device from Nokia in the next month, I'll be leaving for AT&T... and I really don't want to do that, but it's almost like Verizon is sandbagging Nokia.
    Message was edited by: Verizon Moderator

  • I would just like to thank Verizon for the huge selection of Windows phones available.

    WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO OFFER MORE HARDWARE OPTIONS FOR WINDOWS PHONES? 
    I MAY JUST HAVE TO MOVE TO ATT TO GET A DECENT PHONE!!!

        Good morning and thank you for all of your feedback & responses.  I understand you're anxious to get phones that will actually meet your needs.  We certainly do not want you to leave VZW due to not having the phones you want. We are constantly rolling out new devices so please don't lose hope.  I'm sure we'll having something to meet your needs soon.  You can sign up for e-mail alerts about new products and services to ensure you are notified as soon as new devices roll out.  You can sign up at the following link: http://bit.ly/dDumph
    Thank you,
    VanessaS_VZW
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  • So Far... Disappointed in Windows Phone 8 offerings

    I was really excited about getting both my son, and I, new Windows 8 phones to offset the new iPhone 5's my wife and daughter just received.
    I was particularly looking forward to the rumored Samsung ATIV S as it has everything I was looking for. Screen size, storage, power and an awesome look and feel that is light years beyond what we currently have.
    But now as more information trickles in about Verizon's decision to off a variant of the ATIV named Odessy, while little is yet known about this variant it is commonly being described as a 2nd tier phone, it looks like Verizon is determinined to keep the Windows phones a step or two behind its other OS offerings.
    As a developer I need a high end phone, with the most current technology, for development/testing and day to day usage that Verizon seems unwilling to offer, and that justifies the $350/month I spend with Verizon.
    I hope early reports about the Odessy are wrong, but given Verizons track record... I am not optimistic.

    I was hoping that the Lumia 920 would  be available at WP8 launch. Yes, I am disappointed but I am unwilling to wait another six months or switch to another carrier. Verizon offers the best service in my area. Besides, the HTC 8X looks like a great device and may even be superior to the 920 in some ways. I've owned HTC phones for Windows Mobile and I have a Trophy now. The TouchPro 2, in my opinion, was at it's time one of the best smartphones ever made in terms of features. The keyboard was spectacular. The Trophy has been a very reliable offering that has been a pleasure to use.
    Don't count out HTC! It's going to be 8X for me.

  • Why I left Windows Phone

    So yesterday I got my Samsung Galaxy S3. It is a great phone, but I felt kind of bummed out because the device I replaced was my HTC Trophy, a Windows phone. This ended my 1 year plus use of the Windows Phone OS and sent me back to Android once again. Why? There were a few reasons for this, I just wanted to name a few.
    1. Hardware - Anyone who jumped in on Windows Phone's only offering to Verizon customers at the time knew that the hardware was below par of most Android devices offered at the time. Lack of SD card and display made it a mediocre choice, but the new OS was intriguing enough to draw me in. I had an Xperia Play (another disappointing phone Sony)  and decided to trade it for my Trophy. Though the screen and camera were not on par with Sony's offering, I really wanted to give it a try. Being a Zune HD user made the transition pretty easy & the interface was beautiful. Again, hardware was lacking, but driven by an innovating OS. New hardware specs are pretty much on par with recent Android devices, but that cannot make up for....
    2. Software - I found my Trophy had a few hiccups once in a while. Nothing too bad, but apps would sometimes force close or not even open at all. There was a single upgrade that could not be done OTA, but had to be hooked up to Zune to download and install. This was not too much of a issue at first, but why no OTA over at least WiFi? It would come to be a non issue since the Trophy was the ******* child of Verizon, put in a room somewhere; forgotten about and left to just sit there with no updates whatsoever. After a while, I got frustrated and turned to XDA for custom builds. One was a 7.8 build which made the OS slightly more appealing, but still had OS issues with apps. Speaking of.....
    3. Apps & Marketplace - This was the major flaw with WP. No apps. Sure there were a few offerings, but nothing compared to iOS or Android. I know WP is newer to the market and had claimed a huge increase in apps, but from what I could see, nothing worth bragging about. One example was Draw Something. This game had come and gone, gone even further, and then was given life on WP, well sort of given life. It was buggy, crashed constantly, and finding someone to play with was hardly worth the effort. Other games like Mini Squadron and Final Fantasy ran perfect and provided a lot of entertainment. Oh, Physibricks was also a great one! Other apps were nothing more than web page conversions. The entire time I used my phone I only had good experiences with the Engadget app (when using 3G, WiFi was slower for some reason) and the Zune software, which was the best integrated music software ever imo. Songs loaded fast and the huge marketplace made it easy to get any song you wanted. This is the one feature I really loved about WP. I could be somewhere, hear a song, hit the search button and select music. Not only would it find the song, it would take me to the market to download it though my ZunePass. Spotify, Pandora, IHeartRadio, none of these services could hold a match to Zune Pass on WP. This is the only thing I will miss on Android, well, until Xbox music has it App up and running, and if it is as nice as its WP counterpart.
    Microsoft, you want to sell devices, then invest in the developers like you did with Xbox. You got Nokia which was an awesome start, but you knew the market you were getting into and knew what your competitors had out there. You should have gone in stronger than this. Offer developers 100% of their profits, 1 year of  Xbox music free with new device, $0.99 app submit fee, free development software, big incentives for developers to bring apps over from other OS's, $2.99 for Angry Birds?, bring more of your Xbox live titles to mobile,  and tap your home developers (XDA!) to see what you could do to bring customers. Start off big and work with handset developers and get their involvement. Its not too late to get things fixed, but to get me to come back to Windows phone and some others to leave iOS and Android, you need to get better fast or go the route of Kin.

    You are right, to each their own.
    I agree, the UI and the OS are good, but lacking in what is offered by the other two major OS's. Each one has their good and bad, but some more than others. You are right about low end options. I do like the 8X a lot, but after using other hardware besides HTC, I decided to give Samsung a try. The new WP8 hardware has started to look a lot more appealing, even in more ways than the normal Android offerings, but performance is still on par with what handset creators have been pushing on Android 6 months earlier.Dual Core processor, good GPU, MicroSD card slot, 4G, HD display. These are stats you could find in most Android devices a year ago. Now, does Windows phone need to surpass these stats? Not really, but its nice to have a somewhat future proof device that won't be obsolete 3-6 months after you get it with no chances of updating (WP7 users feel me on this). Microsoft set a standard HW requirement for WP7 and guess what, hardware manufactures stuck with it. Why? Because MS didn't allow a lot of the features that other phones had, weak strategy. Don't release behind the curve software if its not on par with your competition because you get behind the curve hardware to run it.
    Weak apps is a definite description I still stand by. MS made a huge deal about app requirements and efforts to get developers to create apps that fit well into the WP7 environment. I saw very little of this if any. Even top name apps are buggy at best (ESPN, CNN, LinkedIn). I've used these apps on iOS and Android and the quality far exceeds those on WP. I don't need a lot of apps, just ones that are useful and functional for my everyday personal and professional use. If I can't depend of developers of major apps to provide high quality apps for a high quality OS, then what is the use? I can tell you there were many productive apps on my Android phones that I could not find on WP. Now, this could be because of WP7/8 app compatibility, but could not be sure.
    Again, I wish I could had been more excited about WP8, but from my WP7 use, I could not trust entering into a 2 year contract with another unproven OS. I hope WP8 has majorly improved over its predecessor so I will be able to go back to a MS product, but until then, I'd feel better investing in a proven OS.

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