WDS Extended Network and Passwords

Hi. I setup a WDS network with an Airport extreme base station as the main and an Aiport Express as the remote. It works perfectly as it extends the reach of the network to all my house. The only issue is that when I try to setup the WPA passwords (to protect the network) the base stations stop recognizing each other and I lose the extended capabilities. When I switch back to no passwords, everything starts working well again.
Any suggestions?

Carlos Camilion wrote:
when I try to setup the WPA passwords (to protect the network) the base stations stop recognizing each other and I lose the extended capabilities.
A "static WDS" arrangement requires that all stations have the same settings for a number of things, including encryption type and network password. Have you been successful in changing those values on both units and still find that they don't communicate?

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