WDS Network setup Issues

I'm trying to setup a WDS Network with two APEBS's. One is in a small bedroom with the cable modem (no choice as to it's placement) and the other is in my office, with all of my printers connected. I've done hard resets on all stations. I setup the Main AEBS, WDS enabled with the Remote AEBS ID entered. Then I setup the remote base station, entering the same network name/password, enabling WDS and entering the ID for the Main station.
Upon updating the Remote station, the Main station disappears from the Airport Utility. The only way I can get it to come back is to unplug the Remote station, and turn off/on Airport capabilities.
I simply cannot have both setup and functioning at the same time. I've tried it with and without network security, double-checking every setting meticulously. I've successfully set this up before and after six hours of fighting this I'm at a total loss.
HELP!

Put both Base Stations, and the Mac you are using to run the configuration, in the same room - preferably the room with the Base Station connected to the cable modem. Don't try to take a shortcut by not doing this. This way you eliminate any chance of wireless communications problems messing with the process. You can move the remote base station anywhere you want after you are done - its configuration settings will be retained even if you have to unplug it from power.
Do a hard reset of the Base Station that is going to be the remote, to get it back into its default configuration state.
Run the Airport Utility, and rather than trying to set everything up manually as you are doing now, let the Airport Utility guide you through the process of configuring the second base station as a remote base station that "extends" the wireless network of the main base station. Letting the Airport Utility take care of the setup shouldn't take you more than a few minutes.

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Airport Extreme WDS network setup

I'm new to Apple stuff. I have a Dell Desktop running XP and a Dell laptop and IBM laptop running the same. I tried setting up a WDS network, I have an Extreme and 3 Expresses to connect to my receivers, Slingbox, etc. My desktop gets internet through the Extreme using an Ethernet cable, and we can see the network on our laptops, but when it tries to connect it gives us the "limited or no connectivity" issue. We've connected to it before wirelessly and had it work, but very rarely. Also, in the Airport Utility, it does not seem to pick up any of the Expresses even though I added their Airport IDs to the WDS network. Please help, I've definitely hit a dead end on this one. Thanks.

Time Capsule, 1TB. (0x168C, 0x9A) 80211n
Apple Express (I can't find the model number!! Though I know it is "newer" than my Time Capsule Extreme.
Both using 7.6.4
Three Apple TV's.
Sonos Music system setup in the house...separate network.
Internet service provided by ARRIS modem...from Comcast.
My goal? To have the fastest and most stable system in my house. To take advantage of the Airport Express for extending my network, physically.
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Temporary Network Setup Issues

Over the next 10 days I will be camping and spending time with mother nature... and my Macbook Pro of course! A few friends and myself rented a couple RV's and have them stationed outside of the farmers house where we are staying. Lucky for us the farmer has DSL (located in his basement) and we were able to conjure up 2 Airport Extremes and 1 Airport Express. The way I currently have the network setup is something like this: Airport Express is plugged into the DSL modem with the wireless set to 802.11n 2.4ghz and extending this network is allowed. The first Airport Extreme is located in a windowsill on the other side of the basement and is set to join and extend the network created by the Airport Express. The other Airport Extreme is in my RV and is set to join and extend the network created by the Airport Express.
The problem I'm having is a couple older Macbook Pro's and sometimes my new Macbook Pro are not connecting to the closest Airport Extreme (in the RV) and our iPhones are not finding a network at all? Any ideas why the iPhones and Macbook Pro's are connecting to the Airport Extreme located in the RV?
Version: 7.4.2
Nework Name: CF
No Security
Airport Express: Channel 1 - IP 192.168.1.39
Airport Extreme 1: Channel 149, 1 - IP 192.168.1.154
Airport Extreme 2: Channel 149, 1 - IP 192.168.1.149
DNS Servers for all 3 are set to: 192.168.1.1
Connection Sharing is Off or (Bridge Mode)
Thanx!

See if any of the following helps you to facilitate the WDS set up:
o Perform a "factory default" reset on all of the AirPorts used in the WDS.
o Be sure to record the AirPort IDs of each of the base station used in the WDS as you will need these during the setup through the AirPort Utility.
o Place the base stations within near proximity of each other during the set up phase, and then relocate them to their desired locations when complete.
o To avoid having to "switch" wireless networks during the WDS setup, attach each of the remote/relay base station, via an Ethernet cable, to the main base station. Of course, this would be dependent on the AirPort types used for the main/relays/remotes.
o Be sure to jot down the MAC addresses for each of the base stations to be used in the WDS as these will be required during the setup.
o When enabling wireless encryption, configure the relay/remote base stations first and the main base station last.

WDS network setup

I have had two of the older Flying Saucer type Airport Extremes connected in a WDS for a long time. The main one was connected to the internet via a dsl modem. The other one is connected to a USB printer and it worked quite nicely thanks to Bonjour.
I just setup a brand new Square Airport Extreme with a new iMac and it is working with the dsl very well so far. I'd like to get the two older Aorport Extreme's to join in a new WDS network.
Do I have to reset those old bases first? Wipe them clean and start from Scratch? Currently, the new base doesn't seem to want to connect to the older ones which are still setup as the old network.
Setting up a WDS was aways a little confusing. A step by step setup guide would be a nice touch.
Thanks
Dave

Put both Base Stations, and the Mac you are using to run the configuration, in the same room - preferably the room with the Base Station connected to the cable modem. Don't try to take a shortcut by not doing this. This way you eliminate any chance of wireless communications problems messing with the process. You can move the remote base station anywhere you want after you are done - its configuration settings will be retained even if you have to unplug it from power.
Do a hard reset of the Base Station that is going to be the remote, to get it back into its default configuration state.
Run the Airport Utility, and rather than trying to set everything up manually as you are doing now, let the Airport Utility guide you through the process of configuring the second base station as a remote base station that "extends" the wireless network of the main base station. Letting the Airport Utility take care of the setup shouldn't take you more than a few minutes.

LaserJet pro 200 color MFP M276nw Network Setup Issues

Successfully set up the printer. Elected to use Wifi option. Wireless computers are able to print to it no problem. Went to go do my first scan, and it tells me to setup the print to network drive. So i go to do this, and the HP software on the host computer (with USB connection) tells me that it can not setup unless is printer is connected to a network.
Obviouslly it is connected to a network....
So turned off Wifi. Turned off printer. Wired it to the router. Turned on. And still get the error message. For that matter, can not find in the Printer menu (on printer) where i can "setup" a wired connection.
I am a computer nerd, but for some reason i gots the dumb today. Some pointers would be appreciated - regarding the printer that is.
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Hi @joe_smoe ,
I see that you are having issues Scanning from the printer's control panel, you are getting a message to setup the printer to a network drive. I would be happy to help you.
I have provided some steps for you to try. I would suggest though, since the printer is already on the wireless network with the other computers, to just create a new port for wireless on the computer that was setup by a USB connection, instead of setting up the Ethernet connection. A Ethernet connection will turn off the Wireless on the printer.
Since you are now connecting the printer to the router by a Ethernet connection, you can print a Configuration Page to get the printer's IPv4 address. HP LaserJet Pro 200 Color MFP M276n and MFP M276nw - Printing a Configuration Report.
Then you can create a new port for the Ethernet connection.
Then go into Devices and Printers, right click the printer and left click Printer Properties, select the Ports tab.
Click Add Port, select Standard TCP/IP Port, then select New Port and follow the wizard.
Type in the proper IPv4 address for the printer.
Make sure the printer is online.
Test the printer.
Here is a document for how to Scan From the Control Panel (Including Scan to Email, to a PDF, and to a Network Folder) for HP Lase...
If there is anything else I can help you with, just let me know.
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Basic network setup issues

I would like to set up a wireless network so other devices can be used in my household. My Intel CoreDuo iMac uses Ethernet and a Netopia DSL modem/router to access the internet. I have tried a few times and done a great deal of reading to add and setup my Netgear WGR614 wireless router, but the internet is inaccessible after connecting and turning everything on.
I'm sure there is a thread here somewhere, could someone point me in the right direction....?
Many thanks,
-DJ

OK, this is really strange...
I can browse the web using Lynx - not with firefox. I can attempt to ssh into my server only after I ping it (much like using pacman) but cannot get past the password entering stage.
Any ideas?
I have been searching all day and still have no internet. I'm going to download a live-CD (Ubuntu?) tonight and see if I network access through that.
[EDIT]
SOLVED! It turns out I needed to update my routers firmware. Strange that it gave similar symptoms the the TCP window scaling issue.
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Using System Profiler to help debug network setup issues

I was surprised to discover that if you fire up System Profiler (e.g., About This Mac from the Apple menu, and then click on More Info) and go to the "Locations" section under Network in the left hand column, you will get a detailed list of network settings for all network interfaces for each of your locations.
This could be helpful to folks trying to figure out why some network settings don't seem to be taking proper effect.
--Bob

привет,
Three thoughts on that... see if you can make a New User in Safe Mode, to test.
Better yet, get Applejack...
http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/19596
After installing, reboot holding down CMD+s, then when the prompt shows, type in...
applejack AUTO
Then let it do all 5 of it's things.
If that doesn't work, try trashing...
/Users/nnnn/Library/Preferences... the whole Prefs folder there.
/Library/Preferences/SystemConfiguration... the whole SysConfig folder.
/Library/Preferences/com.apple.sharing.firewall.plist
/Library/Preferences/com.apple.networkConfig.plist
/Library/Preferences/com.apple.AppleFileServer.plist
Reboot... of course you dont have to trash them, you can just move them to the desktop to drag back if it doesn't work.
PS. Maybe disconnect the Ethernet during these last two for testing.

Can't extend my existing Express b/g WDS network with new Express n

Hi all,
For the past 2 years I have been using a very simple Airport Express b/g wireless network setup. I have two of the older generation b/g Expresses and I've created a WDS network where the main Express is connected to my broadband modem and participates to my WDS as "main" and the relay Express is configured to participate to this WDS as "relay". This setup works flawlessly and I was very happy with it. Note: the firmware version on both units is 6.3.
Recently, I wanted to extend the range of this network. I've bought and received the newer generation Express n. To my surprise, setting it up to extend my already existing b/g WDS is simply impossible. Below is a summary of the situation:
1) The firmware was updated to 7.3.1 as soon as I opened the Airport Utility.
2) The automatic setup wizard in Airport Utility was incapable of extending my current b/g WDS with the Express n. (Green light on but no wifi coming from the new Express n).
3) I've tried countless times to reset and manually reconfigure the new Express n as "remote" in the WDS configuration panel and connect it to either my "main" Express (b/g) or the "relay" Express (b/g). Both "main" and "relay" Expresses (b/g) were also configured to extend WDS to the new "remote" Express n. I've tried to scrupulously follow instructions found in other posts/discussion forums on how to do that.
4) I then tried to make the new Express n as the "main" base station in the WDS. I could successfully connect it to the Internet (Express n connected to broaddand modem via ethernet) and receive wifi from it, but it was impossible to establish a working WDS with my other two b/g Expresses, both reconfigured as "relay" and "remote" in the WDS (again using the instructions from people who succeeded in having both b/g and n units in the same WDS).
5) Adding to all the difficulties in configuring, hard-reseting and reconfiguring each Express, I would very often be in a situation where Airport Utility only sees 1, 2 or none of my 3 Expresses. Rebooting my Mac was the only thing that enabled me to see them again.
6) After about 7 hours trying to figure out how to work this thing without any good results, I've decided to call out for help. In my situation, there seems to be an intrinsic incompatibility between older b/g Express and the newer Express n, at least for WDS network setup.
If anyone is in the same situation and has found a solution to the problem your help will be much appreciated.
Thanks in advance.

Good news everyone: don't despair, there is hope! After nearly 10 hours of configuration, I finally have a WDS with all three AXs (two b/gs and one n). woohoo!
OK, so here's how I did it:
The main idea here was to replace my "relay" b/g AX with the new n AX.
1) The first thing I did was to reconfigure my "main" b/g AX (the one connected to my modem) so that it can transmit to the new n AX: I simply added the Airport ID of my new n AX in the WDS "remotes" list inside the WDS configuration panel of the "main" b/g AX. I then did an Update Reboot on the "main" b/g AX.
2) After that, I did a Hard reset on the new n AX and plugged it near my old "relay" b/g AX. I then went in Airport Utility, scanned for the new n AX and asked the wizard to "Replace an existing Base Station". It gives you a list of all the base stations your computer has interacted with. I selected the old "relay" b/g AX. The wizard then asked to unplug the base station that is going to be replaced. Did that, and then I did an Update Reboot on the newly configured "relay" n AX.
3) I've rechecked the configuration of the new "relay" n AX, and to my surprise, it wasn't exactly the same as the one for my old "relay" b/g AX. Specifically, I had to manually reconfiguring the whole WDS settings. I had to tell it to "Participate in a WDS", re-input the Aiport ID of the "main" AX and also put the Airport ID of the "remote" AX (the old b/g I'd replaced see below - 5) in the "remotes" list. Once that was re-configured, I updated and rebooted.
4) At that point I had wifi coming from: my "main" b/g AX and now my new "relay" n AX. Yeay! that was the first time I had interaction between b/g and n units.
5) I then went to reconfigure the old "relay" b/g AX and set it up as "remote" and connected it via WDS to the new "relay" n AX. Configuring a b/g AX is a piece of cake compared to the newer n AX!
6) I am very happy to report that it all simply works now! All three AXs are happily talking to each other now. Hooray!
I am almost clueless on why performing these specific steps made it work but it did. My reasoning is that by letting Airport Utility automatically configure the n AX with the configuration data of an old b/g AX it might have changed some settings that were too hidden from view when done manually.
Thanks to dchao99 for input, and Mike hang in there. Try to follow my steps, it might also work for you!
Good luck to all of you.

WDS networking issue - Airport Extreme (802.11n) and remote Airport Express

*Background Info:*
Airport Extreme 802.11n (Fast Ethernet)
Version: 7.2.1
Wireless Mode: Participate in a WDS network (set as main)
Network Name: @Home
Wireless Security: WPA/WPA2 Personal
Channel: 1
Airport Express
Version: 6.3
Wireless Mode: Participate in a WDS network (set as remote)
Network Name: @Home
Wireless Security: WPA/WPA2 Personal
Channel: 1
Radio Mode: 802.11b/g compatible
Connect Using: AirPort (WDS)
Connection Sharing: Off (Bridge Mode)
Issue
Please help as I'm having issues with my WDS network. I've setup using both the wizard and manual and also hard reset on both units to setup again but cannot get them both to communicate to one another. Both units are showing green LED under their configuration. For my last attempt, I've tried adding the Airport ID (MAC) of the Airport Express to the Access Control and also DHCP Reservations on the Airport Extreme but still no luck.
The Airport Express (setup as remote) does not even show up in the Airport Extreme's Summary as Wireless Clients. In the WDS tab, the Airport Extreme is set up as WDS main, Allow wireless clients box checked and WDS Remotes has the Airport Express' AirPort ID in the list. On the Airport Express, WDS is set up as remote, with Allow wireless client box checked and the Airport ID of the Airport Express in the WDS Main.
I can connect clients to both units. Both units are configured using the same Network Name and have the same WPA/WPA2 security key. The Airport Extreme (main) however is connected to my broadband so any devices or clients connected to it are able to get outside. Connected devices or clients are assigned IP address via DHCP with IP 10.0.x.x. If wifi devices or clients connect to the Airport Express (remote) they are assigned a completely different IP addresses 169.254.x.x, they are not able to browse the internet or talk to other clients connected on the 10.0.1.x network. The Internet Connection configuration on the Airport Express (remote) is Connect Using Airport (WDS) and Using DHCP. I've even tried manually and entered the IP address 10.0.1.199 that I had assigned to the Airport Express from the Airport Extreme and Router Address as IP of Airport Extreme (10.0.1.1).
I think I've tried everything but I'm still having this problem. The remote Airport Express is not extending my existing Airport Extreme network. Any ideas???

Christopher,
This may or may not be helpful, or it may be something you've already tried or are aware of so I apologize if that's the case.
I have been researching ways to set up the Dual Band Network supported by the AEBS and came across your post. I've got an AEBS and (2) AirPort Express set-up currently (AEBS is main and the Express are participating in the WDS as remotes) and I'm trying to configure one of the Express to utilize a 802.11b/g compatible network while the AEBS runs a 5Ghz 802.11n Only network.
AAR, since the AirPort Express are 2.4Ghz 802.11b/g ONLY (no support for 802.11n), you have to be sure to set-up your AEBS first and select "802.11n (802.11b/g compatible)" in the Radio Mode drop-down on the AEBS before you attempt to connect an AirPort Express. The AEBS should be set-up as your "WDS main" and the Express should be set-up as a "WDS remote" for the network you established when you set-up the AEBS.
Bottom line here is the Express won't be seen by the AEBS unless the AEBS is 'looking' in the 802.11b/g 2.4Ghz frequency.
Hope this was helpful.

New Airport Extreme N wireless network setup questions (WDS, D-Link)

I have finally been able to set up my Airport Extreme N network after numerous attempts over the last few weeks. I was getting a very weak signal in front of the house where my wife's G4 is connected wireless to an old Airport card and where all the systems (XBOX 360; Wii and PS3) are also wirelessly hitting the network.
The current configuration is as follows: In the office in the back of the house I have an Airport Extreme N basestation connected to the cable modem and have three workstations (One Mac and two PCs) wired to it. I set up a WDS network, so I set up the Airport Expresses as remotes. In the living room I have another Airport Extreme N basestation (as a remote as well) that is hooking up to the XBOX 360, Wii and PS3. I have enabled WEP security (not effecting the XBOX 360 since it is now "wired"). Here is the weird thing - I have a PC laptop with a D-Link Xtreme N card ( DWA-652) that cannot connect to the network. I enter the WEP password but it does not connect. Am I missing something on the basestation setup? Do I need to add the MAC address of the card anywhere. When I use the laptop's built in wireless it connects with no problem. By creating a WDS network did I disable the n functionality of the base station(s)? I am a lttle condused.
Also, prior to going to an all Apple wireless network setup, I bought the D-Link Xtreme N Gigabit Router (DIR-655). I was regretfully about to return it to Best Buy but I had an idea which may or may not work. I know that the D-Link does not support WDS but if I was to set it up as the main router and added the "main" Airport basestation as a wired bridge could I maintain the WDS network? The reason I ask this is because I would love to keep the gigabit for the wired machines in the office. Also, I am wondering if the D-Link notebook card is incompatible with the Airport network.
All I know is that I have spent alot of money and sleepless nights just trying to set this network up but thankfully Best Buy has a thirty day return policy so I will return what I can't use.
I appreciate any help and advice anyone can give me.
Thanks.
V
MacPro Mac OS X (10.4.9)
MacPro Mac OS X (10.4.9)

Hello!
I have noticed that some manufacturers (Linksys and possibly D-LINK) only accept upper-case WEP keys only.
This drove me nuts when trying to integrate a Linksys PC PCMCIA card into my old "g" network.
As far as using WEP, it's bad and broken; but I understand that your choice of security is limited to the devices that you are trying to network.
For what it's worth, I have my network set up with the AEBS 'n' connected to my Cable Modem, with one of the ports going to a gigabit switch for my wired network. I then have two AirTunes set up as WDS extensions for music & Internet delivery to two separate areas. The AEBS 'n" serves up DHCP and routing for the entire network.
It works quite well; I get 54 mbits/sec for the two WDS AirTunes, and 145 mbits/sec to one of my ATV's. My gigabit wired machines see data rates of 15-27 MBytes/sec (depending on the type of transfer).
Good luck!

Airport Extreme setup problems on existing WDS network - Please help!

I just bought a Time Capsule and have setup a WDS network for the house. The Airport Express joins the network just fine as a remote WDS device. I cannot get the Airport Extreme (v5.7) to join the same network. It just continues to make a *separate network with the same name* despite the Channel being the same, the WDS being set to remote, and the main ID of the Time Capsule has been put in correctly. In other words, since I setup the airport Express correctly, I cannot figure out for the life of me why the Airport Extreme is not joining correctly.
PLEASE HELP. I've been trying this for 6 hours now and countless total restarts by hard resets of all the equipment.

Hello arthung. Welcome to the Apple Discussions!
Let's double-check your WDS setup ...
(Note: To facilitate the WDS set up, place the base stations within near proximity of each other during the set up phase, and then relocate them to their desired locations when complete. Also, jot down the AirPort IDs for each of the base stations to be used in the WDS.)
o Perform a "hard" reset on the Time Capsule (TC) and a "hard" reset on the 802.11b/g AirPort Extreme Base Station (AEBS).
Main Base Station Setup - TC
o Click the AirPort status menu in the menu bar and choose the wireless network created by the TC.
o Open AirPort Utility.
o Select the TC, and then, choose Manual Setup from the Base
Station menu.
o Click Wireless in the toolbar, and then choose “Participate in a WDS network” from the Wireless Mode pop-up menu.
o Click WDS and then choose “WDS main” from the WDS Mode pop-up menu.
o Select the “Allow wireless clients” checkbox if you want client computer to connect to this base station.
o Click the Add "+" button and enter the AirPort ID of the AX.
o Click Update to send the new settings to the base stations in the WDS.
Remote Base Station Setup - AEBS
o Click the AirPort status menu in the menu bar and choose the wireless network created by the AX.
o Open AirPort Utility.
o Select the AX, and then, choose Manual Setup from the Base Station menu.
o Click AirPort in the toolbar and click Wireless. Choose “Participate in a WDS network” from the Wireless Mode pop-up menu, and choose the same channel as the main base station from the Channel pop-up menu.
o Click WDS and choose “WDS remote” from the pop-up menu.
o Enter the AirPort ID of the main base station in the WDS Main field.
o Click Update to transfer the settings to the base station.
(ref: Pages 42-46 of "Designing AirPort Networks.)

Is it possible to setup a WDS network with separate SSID's?

Is it possible to setup a WDS network with separate SSID's? I'm using two AirPort Extreme N devices.

Welcome to the discussions!
+Is it possible to setup a WDS network with separate SSID's+
In order to "extend a wireless network", the network must have the same SSID.
If you have dual band AirPort Extreme devices, this is the only way that you will be able to extend both the 2.4 GHz and 5 GHz bands.
Use the same SSID for both bands on the "main" AirPort Extreme and be sure to check the box to "Allow this network to be extended".
On the remote Extreme, set the Wireless Mode to "Extend a wireless network" and choose the name of the network on the "main" Extreme to extend. Enter the same security and password.
For more information and Apple's step by step on this, refer to pages 43-44 in the Apple AirPort Networks Guide.

Connecting an 802.11n Express to an older WEP-enabled WDS network

I have a domed 802.11g Extreme base station connected to an older (802.11g) Express in a 128-bit WEP enabled WDS network - works great.
I recently purchased a new 802.11n Express and would like to add it as another remote in my WDS. The new Airport Setup Utility will not allow me to set up the new Express as a remote in a WDS network with 128-bit WEP. The closest I can get is WEP Transitional Security Network. When setting it up this way, it demanded a 13-character password -- which I dutifully supplied AFTER changing the password on my domed Extreme to the same thing. After all this effort - the new Express won't get past the blinking yellow light thus requiring me to reset it using the manual reset button.
I can get this same unit to "join" my existing network just fine. In that case, it accepts 128-bit WEP without a whimper.
Is there a basic compatibility problem here? Can I get the new unit to connect to the old 128-bit WEP network by using Transitional Security Network? Do I need to update the whole network to WPA? Or is there some other issue here that has nothing to do with the security issue?
Thanks for any help.

Hello Tim Hopmann. Welcome to the Apple Discussions!
You should be able to access the "earlier" WEP modes by first changing the radio mode on the 802.11n AirPort Express Base Station (AXn) to one of the non-"n" modes. To do so, just be sure to hold down the <Option> key before making the radio mode selection in the AirPort Utility. Once you choose one of these non-"n" modes, the WEP 40 & 128-bit options become available.

New Airport Extreme802.11n &Very Odd Network&Computer Issues

Hi,
We Replaced a D-Link DGL4300 802.11G and a Airport Express M9470LL/A with the most current Airport Extreme Base Station 802.11N 2.4Ghz and 5.0Ghz Dual Band and a Airport Express 802.11N (to use with a Shared USB HP1022 Laser Jet Printer. I have contacted Apple Tech Support once regarding setup and mentioned this other ? strange issue(s)
We have broadband cable that goes to a Motorola SB5101(meets ISP specs) then Ethernet cable
from Cable Modem to Wan Port on Airport Extreme. We have multiple computers all with wireless capability 1) Imac 800mhz 874 mb ram 802.11bAirport Card 2) eMac 1.0 Ghz 1gb ram Airport Extreme 802.11bWireless Card
3) eMac 1.25 Ghz 1.0gb ram and a Airport Extreme 802.11bWireless Card* all running OSX Panther 10.3.9 *and each with 802.11B wireless cards 4) Macbook Pro bought Dec 2009 running Snow Leopard 4gb ram and 250gb HDand 802.11n wireless card 5) HP Tower xw4550 running Win XP Pro SP3 4gb ram 500GB HD and a 802.11G wireless card 6) Dell Mini Net Book running Win XP Home SP3 1ghz 1gb ram 150 GB HD and a
802.11n wireless card.
At first tried setting up the Airport Extreme with the Dell Mini as it met specs and (as of Yesterday) the Mac Book Pro is with one of our children at college but was able to set up setting up the Airport Utility and Hardware for both Peripheral Devices with the Mac Book Pro.
Then things got odd. All the computers were online (as well as two wireless "Live" capable gaming systems XBox360 and Sony PS3 , I did not check my eMac until the next day
and when I woke it from sleep (or started it) I got "You need to restart your computer"
? Kernel Panic , I ran Disk Utility, Tech Tool Deluxe, Apple Hardware Test and even Applejack. no change and while permissions were repaired Tech Tool Deluxe and The Apple Hardware Test showed no faults with anything, Tried PRAM. restart etc, then we had the other eMac 1.0ghz which has been unused since the Mac Book Pro arrived as a gift, Plugged it in , started it up, and got online, no black screen, even checked and responded to email, then restarted the (2nd eMac 1.0ghz) and the "You need to restart your computer screen came up!) once seems oh maybe, possibly its crashed, or dying out
but two side by side, No Way! , so we then isolated electrical outlets, to the extent with a 100 foot extension cord outside on our back breezeway, same thing. We even went and bought a new battery and tried it in both , no change, * Was able to shut off the airport card in safe mode, restarted and it functioned as a normal computer with airport extreme card off
*same with the 1.0ghz emac airport card off and restart and functions as a computer but no online access. We then moved one close to the Airport Extreme and hooked up by ethernet and changed the settings and Bingo no Kernel Panic Like screen and can get online, tried the other same thing! So currently the two eMacs sit side by side and we bought a long ethernet cord and it works on the table where it originally was,
I did mention this to the Apple Technician that called from Apple regarding a setup issue (as have 90 days telephone support) and he said *That there have been reports of where there are with a Guest Network (we had one set up and He had us remove it as He asked if we really needed it and I said no AND also with networks with computers with wireless cards 802.11b
and 802.11g computers on a network with the802.11n computers and a 802.11n Airport Extreme, he could not explain it any further, he suggested a possible 3rd party software incompatibilty : recent download (but have not done any on the 1.25ghz eMac and the 1.0ghz has been shut
off since Dec 2009. I am baffled , my Wife and I were seriously considering buying a new Imac to replace the 1.25ghz after the Black screen showed up, but when the other one did the same, and did the trouble shooting and then the ethernet connect we saved ourselves a lot of money (t would be nice to have a new Imac but $$ is not there)
and in the past week now (could be our ISP) our Internet connection has dropped off 4 times usually for 30-45 minutes but Friday 8-20-10 it was over 3 hours (yet our Cable TV came in) I will contact our ISP who handles both the broadband about the outages
and our cable TV has been fuzzy -grainy at times, I called Them Friday and their were no outages in our area (system wide) Now though (except with Win XP) that is our access to the Airport Extreme and Utility (it blinks orange off and on when the internet is down) the Airport Express has stayed green each time. I will contact Apple also as ?
is it the Airport Extreme (but its intermittent) channels are set to automatically if thats helpful data rather than set to a specific channel, its fairly rural where we live
I thought of buying Tiger but saw the extreme prices and I called Apple per a recent Apple Thread they did not have Tiger Retail(nor did I expect then to) but after discussing
the Emacs they said why pay so much for Tiger (and a lot are used) they said and went over both eMacs specs and I checked in detail online and called them back as it was in a "card hold" and bought Leopard 10.5.6 (as min of 512 ram, DVD drive (have a combo -drive) and a Power PCG4 which both are and I am now getting unused (non System) data off the eMac and backing it up as well and its job will be to be able to access the Airport Utility (Apple OSX Leopard 10.5.6 was $129.00 plus tax free shipping and it arrived yesterday so if settings need changed can do that (with Win XP the Airport Utility
was so different and after about 4 hours and no progress I stopped and switched to he Laptop the next day!
Has anyone experienced anything like this, I read up on both peripherals before buying and called as well to the Apple Online Store to make sure we could 1) set it up and 2) all computers specs were met to be able to a)use the network for online use and b)as well as shared printing from any and all computers and they do meet the specifications
* one last item , my Wife's Imac is also on via Ethernet, It asked for a WEP password and that was not a option in the Airport Utility set up ,only WPA-WPA2 Personal password-Security configuration
so She is not on wirelessly (though I know She has been as in the past, Her Imac was on a desk in the foyer ) That may have been with the 802.11b Apple Airport white dome and not the D-Link 802.11G router of which we had a lot of configuration issues
*I could be wrong and will read up on her specs via the Mac Tracker application or online
Many Thanks, Its so odd I did not want to leave out data etc but its a *long post and I apologize for that, I hope some one can send some light on this. On a positive avoided buying a new computer!
but makes no sense (at least to us)!
ambienttales
Imac 800mhz 874mb ram 17"LCD screen OSX 10.3.9 Airport Card
eMac1.0ghz 1.0gb ram OSX 10.3.9 802.11b Airport Extreme Card
eMac 1.25ghz 1.0 gb ram OSX 10.3.9 802.11b Airport Extreme Care
Mac Book Pro Bought new Dec 2009 4gb ram 250GB HD OSX 10.6.x Snow Leopard 802.11n Wireless Card
HP xw4550 Tower 4gb ram 500gb HD Win XP Pro SP3 802.11g wireless card
Dell Mini Net book 1ghz 1GB ram 150GB HD Win XP Home SP3 802.11N wireless care
HP 1022 Laser Jet Printer for shared network printing
Airport Extreme 802.11n Dual Band 2.4ghz and 5.0 ghz
Airport Express 802.11 (to use with HP Laser Jet Printer for shared network printing
Motorola docsis 2 Surfboard Cable Modem SB5101

I too have a MacBook Pro (running OS X 10.6.6) and a PowerBook G4 (1.67 GHz, OS X 10.4.11) and an AirPort Extreme 802.11n. I configured the new AirPort Extreme Base Station N last week using the MacBook Pro and the PowerBook can no longer operate with AirPort on (Restart Computer message). A rep at the Genius Bar indicated that WPA2 encryption might interfere with the G4?? He recommended setting up WEP encryption, this is no longer an option using the AirPort setup assistant.
It would be very helpful to know how this original post was resolved. The G4 SHOULD be able to work with the AirPort Extreme 802.11n in theory, right??

EA4500 – Smart Wi-Fi interface and Windows Network Map issues

I purchased this Router about 2 weeks ago as a phased upgrade of our Home Network, primarily to enhance media streaming. It has the latest firmware preinstalled from the factory. Prior to the purchase and installation of the EA4500 Router I replaced my old Motorola SurfBoard SB6120 DOCSIS 3.0 Cable Modem with a Motorola SurfBoard SB6141 DOCSIS 3.0 Cable Modem. My old Linksys E2000 Router worked perfectly with the SB6141, with the exception that the E2000 wasn’t IPv6 enabled, but does have 10/100/1000Base-T Ethernet (RJ-45) and Internet ports.
The EA4500 has been installed for about 10 days and seems to have improved local network speeds and I don’t seem to be having any Internet connectivity issues. However, there are some disturbing issues with the EA4500 and the AE3000 I purchased. There are 11 devices connected through the Router; a Dell Desktop (wireless with the AE3000), a Dell Desktop (Ethernet), a Dell Laptop (wireless), 2 Canon Printers (1 Ethernet and 1 Wireless), 2 Western Digital 1TB MyBookLive Network Drives (both Ethernet), a WD TV Live Streaming Media Player (wireless), an Apple TV media player (wireless), an iPad (wireless), and an Android Smartphone (wireless).
Issue 1 – The Linksys Smart Wi-Fi interface appears to be unreliable at times!!! I’ve read about this problem here on the Community involving the EA6500, so I don’t know if this is a Linksys Server issue, as suggested in a few responses, or a bug in the Router firmware, or defective hardware. However, when the interface locks up, it can’t be accessed from a wireless or wired connection. Usually, powering down the Router and then powering it back up and restart will allow it to function again. However, at times before the interface completely locks up it shows either just a white screen or the security screen will show no firewall features enabled. This is a little scary, so I’ll do a complete reset and setup; this is becoming a pain in the rear!!!!! Is there any hope for this being fixed, in this Router, not the next generation??????????
Issue 2 - All of my network devices show up in the Router’s Device List. Except for the Apple devices they also show up, when they are online, in Windows 7 Explorer under Network and when you click on Network they are correctly displayed as Computers, Media Devices, Network Infrastructure, or Storage. However, when you click on “Open Network and Sharing Center” and then click on “See Full Map”; it fails with the response “Windows cannot create the network map. Responses from other devices on the network are delayed or there is an incompatible router on the network”; no device map is shown. When I follow the link for more information, the only thing that stands out is “A device on the network, such as a hub or switch, is not working properly or is not compatible with the Link Layer Topology Discovery (LLTD) protocol, which Windows uses to create the map. To fix this problem, disable the device, turn it off, or remove it from your network”. All of my network devices showed up on the Network Map with the old E2000. This issue is the same on all of my computers, either wired or wireless. Any known solutions for this, or is it as Windows suggests; an incompatible Router????
Thanks in advance for any insight or solutions. With the issues I’m having with the EA4500 and the AE3000; they are both probably going back to Amazon.

thebluemamba_24; Thank you for your suggestion; I finally found time yesterday to perform an extensive evaluation before I return the Router. However, rather than trying to add devices manually, my rationale was if the EA4500 can’t process them correctly, automatically, it needs to be returned anyway, so I added devices normally letting the device an Router handle the process.
In thinking through this issue, all devices on our network are detected and identified by Windows Explorer on Windows 7 computers; except of course the Apple and Android devices (Apple TV, iPad, and Smartphone). So, I wondered if one of those three devices being added to the Router’s device list was somehow causing issues or interfering with Windows 7’s ability to generate a Network Map. Therefore, my approach was to turn off or disable all devices on our network, reset the Router to factory defaults, reestablish the Router to my custom Home Network configuration using a Windows 7 PC that has LAN and Wireless access to the Router, then add one device at a time and check with each addition to see if Windows 7 could still generate a Network Map.
With the Router reset and reestablishment complete; I began the process of adding one device at a time and checking to see if a Network Map was being generated. What I discovered was when a recent addition to the network, a Western Digital WD TV Live Streaming Media Player, was connected (wirelessly), Windows 7 could no longer generate the Network Map and the failure was consistent. The only way to get the Network Map to work again was to remove power from the WD TV Live, although it remained in the EA4500’s Device List; simply turning it off didn’t help. Since I’d originally witnessed the Windows 7 Network Map working with the Linksys E2000 Router that the EA4500 replaced, I decided to test the WD TV Live with that Router. It worked initially, but it failed consistently after the first success. Interestingly, the failure indication was a little different, but nevertheless generation of the Network Map failed.
I’ve tried changing a few settings on the EA4500 as well as the WD TV Live, but nothing helped. There was a recent firmware update to the WD TV Live, so I might try rolling back the firmware to see if it makes a difference.
The Network Map issue might very well be an issue with the WD TV Live, not the Router, but after reading many threads on this Community I have reservations that the problems I’m experiencing with the Smart interface lockup will be fixed. I suspect new emerging replacement products will be the focus and these older products will be abandoned and no more firmware fixes will be forthcoming and I don’t want to spend more money for a new product just to fix old problems and get something that works properly. The Network Map issue is troublesome, but the lockup of the Router’s “Linksys Smart Wi-Fi” interface is a serious matter to me. It appears that once it locks up, the only way to correct it is a power off restart; not practical if you’re traveling and trying to access settings remotely; the selling point for this feature.
Given the problems I’m experiencing with the EA4500 and AE3000, I guess I’ll return them. Too bad, because otherwise the EA4500 seems like it’s a good Router. I’ve been brand loyal since the Linksys WRT54G came out, but after reading this Community and with my personal experience with the EA4500 and AE3000, now I’ll probably give the NETGEAR N900 equivalents a try.

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