What is up with JAVA

Dear Experts,
I am new to the Java programming language, and I just purchased the Jbuilder 4 development kit. Everything is going okay; however, I would like to know the advantages of writing in JAVA as opposed to writing in other languages. I pretty much need the complete spiel on the power of the this new language and how it will help me in future, as far as jobs are concerned.
Also, I need a couple of things defined:
JDK
JDBC
HOW TO USE JAVA IN CONJUCTION WITH A WEB PAGE - THE INSERTION POINT (IN HTML) AND THE LIKE.
Finally, is J Builder a good tool?
Thank you group,
Robert Lawrence Perkins
P.S. I need a mentor, please help.

Java is by far the best programming language that I've worked with so far. Here're a few of the advantages it has:
1] Portable - Java is portable. That means a program developed under one Operating System will work just fine on a different Operating System. So far only some of the more popular OS's are supported i.e. UNIX, Windows etc. The cliche "write once, run anywhere" is more true for Java than for any other language nad this is a really big plus
2] Object-Oriented - Java is a purely object oriented language. You can find various comparisions between Java and C++. I'll like to point out that for it's time C++ was not bad, but now Java is definitely a better choice
3] Robust - Java is a fairly robust language and has a very rich set of tools for developers. Newer additions are being made to the language at a rapid pace and there's practically nothing that one can't get done with Java
4] Security - Java places a lot of emphasis on security. With the advent of the Internet this is a very big plus again
JDK - Is the acronym for Java Developer's Kit. The JDK consists of the various Application Programming Interfaces (APIs). These APIs enable developers to develop applications rapidly since most of the functionality needed is already provided by the APIs rapidly and "one does not need to reinvent the wheel"
JDBC - Java Database Connectivity is a again an API designed for fast and efficient extraction of data from a Relational Database Management System (RDBMS) using SQL queries
HOW TO USE JAVA IN CONJUCTION WITH A WEB PAGE - THE INSERTION POINT (IN HTML) AND THE LIKE.
There are several ways Java is deployed in conjunction with Web pages. Depending upon the application's requirements you might make use of 'Applets'. You can find more information on applets at
http://java.sun.com/docs/books/tutorial/applet/index.htm
Amongst the other technologies servlets are pretty commonly used. See
HREF http://java.sun.com/products/servlets
for more information. A good reference book would be "Core Servlets and Java Server Pages" by Marty Hall.
Finally, is J Builder a good tool?
It is a good tool but I think it's utility to a beginner is limited. If you're just starting developing in Java you'll probably be better of starting at scratch. That way, you'll be able to know the language better. Once you acquire enough familiarity with the language then you might want to move to an IDE. This is just my personal opinion. I personally prefer using JEXT for editing most of my stuff and the ubiquituos command-line for compiling and building. You should know what suits you best once you start developing yourself
Future Prospects: This is what lot of people are betting on. With the rapid endorsement of the Java platform definitely there's going to be a lot of progress

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What's wrong with java.util.Date type?

Hi!
When I try to persist object having field of type java.util.Date I get the
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[com.solarmetric.kodo.impl.jdbc.ee.ManagedConnecti
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Best regards,
Alexey Maslov

I've created my own dictionary with dateToSQL() method overridden.
Now it works fine. But it's a kind of strange. Oracle is used often and my
JDBC drivers
are the most recent (at least, from the oracle.com).
Anyway, thank you again.
"Alexey Maslov" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
Patric,
Thank you for response.
We're using Oracle 8.1.7 via OCI driver from Oracle 9.2.
I've already tried 2.4.0 and it works fine there but I've found another
problem there
preventing me from using it. See my post in solarmetric.kodo.betanewsgroup.
>
"Patrick Linskey" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
That's odd -- what version of Oracle are you using?
Moving to Kodo JDO 2.4.0
(http://www.solarmetric.com/Software/beta/2.4.0) will almost certainly
get rid of this problem, as we use exclusively prepared statements in
it, and therefore pass dates etc. to JDBC as parameters.
But, to get things working with your Oracle database and Kodo JDO 2.3,
you could create your own extension of OracleDictionary and override the
dateToSQL() method to generate the appropriate TO_DATE() syntax. See our
documentation for more details on creating custom database dictionaries.
-Patrick
Alexey Maslov wrote:
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BILLY.T
T_MAIN(TT_SOLUTION_ID, DELAY_REASON, TT_STATE_ID, ID, CONTACT_PHONE,
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ON, OPER_DESCR, TT_TYPE_ID, CREATED_BY, EXP_CLOSE_DATE,SERV_OPEN_DATE,
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at
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java:372)
at
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ManagerImpl.java:426)
at
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But when I try to execute the statement above against the database
manually
everything works fine.
I'm absolutely desperate!
P.S. On 2.4.0 RC the operation invoking this database insert completes
fine.
"Alexey Maslov" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
Hi!
When I try to persist object having field of type java.util.Date I
get
the
following SQL logged by Kodo with subsequent transaction rollback:
2002-11-14 15:03:35,099 INFO
[com.solarmetric.kodo.impl.jdbc.ee.ManagedConnecti
onFactoryImpl.supportcrm/kodo] INSERT INTOBILLY.TT_COMMENTS(COMMENT_TYPE,
TEXT,
CREATED_BY, ID, SUBJECT, CREATE_DATE, TT_MAIN_ID) VALUES (1, '1',
10,
>>>
279,
'1',
{ts '2002-11-14 15:03:35.059'}, 147)
When I change "{ts '2002-11-14 15:03:35.059'}" with
"TO_DATE('2002-11-14
15:03', 'YYYY-DD-MM HH24:MI')" in SQL editor
and execute it everything works fine.
What does "{ts '..'}" mean? Is it a SQL generation error?
Thank you in advance.
Best regards,
Alexey Maslov
Patrick Linskey [email protected]
SolarMetric Inc. http://www.solarmetric.com
Best regards,
Alexey Maslov

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--------------------------- Javac Output ---------------------------
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Thanks!
Regards,
aesh83

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>
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http://java.sun.com/developer/JDCTechTips/2004/tt1201.html
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Hi,
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Development speed:
C / C++ (DJGPP):
downloading many parts - 1 week
installing - 1 weekend
looking for basic tutorials - 1 week
getting hello world to work - 1 afternoon
getting more tutorials - 1 week
getting past hello world - 3 weeks
doing something worth doing - never
total time to becoming a basic C programmer - 18 months & counting (I still try every couple of months, it never works)
compiling someone else's code - 1% success (only one program not specifically designed for DJGGP ever compiled - C is portable eh?)
Java
dowloading JDK - 4 hours
installing - 1/2 hour
basic tuts - 1 hour
hello world - 3 hours (java.lang.NoClassDefFoundException :-) )
more tutorials - 10 mins
getting past hello world - 1 week
doing something worth doing - 2 weeks
total time to becoming a basic java programmer - 1 month
compiling someone else's code - 95% success (some people use the GNU regexp and GL4java, now there's regexp & 3D in the main package, so that shouldn't be a problem for much longer)
Running speed:
http://members.lycos.co.uk/wjgoh/JavavsC.html
pure java JITted for the current machine is faster than generalised C, it's just that in C you get like
prog: printf("xxx\n")
stdlib: some assembler
wheras java
prog: println("xxx");
lib: print("xxx"+"\n");
lib: print("xxx\n");
lib: write("xxx\n");
lib: write(new byte[] {'x','x','x','\n'});
lib: native void write({'x','x','x','\n'});
stdlib: write(bytes);
stdlib: some assembler
I know that's not the right chain, I'm just showing the idea. Also you get things like this:
//deprecated - don't use
getSize() {
return size;
//ok, use this
getPanelSize() {
return getSize();
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Shish

Up an running with Java. What tools to download?

Hello, I use to work with Java applications about three years ago, but had switched over to another language. Now I need to develop code using Java again. In fact, I need to reuse some of the code I developed a few years ago. The code does alot with animations. So here is my question.
"What tools do I need to get up and running with Java?"
1. What compiler to use (recommend the best open source editor, or one that is not that expensive)?
2. Where is the Java SDK that I need to download?
3. Will my three year old code still be compatible with the SUN, Java code I wrote 3 years ago?
Ralph

Actually Jwenting is right, IntelliJ is by all measures the best IDE.
I have used textpad, programmers notepad (which I still use for some things), VIM, eclipse for a number of years, intelliJ for a short time, and Netbeans since earlier this year.
textpad - Great place to learn the basics, but once the basics are down you need to find an IDE.
Programmers notepad - love it, still use it for some languages, has some features you will find nowhere else
VIM - You have your vi lovers and your vi haters, I would say I fall into the haters camp but still keep up with it because when you need an editor to make a quick change on some obscure system with very little on it, some version of Vi will undoubtedly be there. Once you get into the flow it is not bad, but there is lots of annoying things about vi and its offspring.
Eclipse - Great IDE, was the better of the free ones for a long time. For me eclipse's strength became it's albatross. That is plugins ofcourse. There are literally thousands of plugins that can make eclipse do just about anything you want. The problem is there is very little oversite so some plugins are great, some good, some ok, some suck, and some are deliberately hostile. You don't really know what you are going to get until you try it, but removing it can be a pain so sometimes you are stuck. Plus getting the plugins to play nice with each other can be a chore, the more plugins you have the harder it gets to get new ones to play nice. It was after a whole day stint trying to get eclipse to work again after picking a bad plugin that i simply decided to give netbeans 6.0 a try since it had what I wanted packaged in already.
IntelliJ - Only got to use this for a short time as they went ahead and bought it at my last job after I gave my months notice for leaving. Guess they figured it would be easier to replace me that way. From the little I got to play with it, it was extremely user friendly to the point of being a pleasure to work with, You definitely got what you paid for.
Netbeans 6.0 and higher - Netbeans pre 6.0 sucked. Even 5.5 was not as good as eclipse at the time of it's release, but was a sign they were headed in the right direction. After releasing version 4 only to have it suck and laughed at in the java community since eclipse was hundreds of times better Sun realized netbeans was making them look bad. So they decided to fix that and decided the best way to fix it was to model netbeans as closely after IntelliJ (which was the best even back then) as legally possible. With each release they get closer to realizing this goal, and since it is free with each release netbeans picks up more and more former eclipse fanbois. It is now at the point where most people following the eclipse vrs netbeans war will agree that netbeans has taken the lead and has more current users than eclipse. I would even wager that most of the people who said netbeans was best in this thread were not long ago eclipse fans. Bottom line, of the free IDEs netbeans is the better choice at this point.
But I got to ask, when you say a salary of R8,000 - R12,000 do you mean monthly income or annually? If annually can you even survive on about $1,000 in US dollars for a year? I mean I make about 8 times that in a month, after uncle sam takes his portion, and i wouldn't call myself rich by any means.
Also jwenting have you tried the newer netbeans? I think if you do you will see they are strikingly similar to IntelliJ in many ways.
JSG
Edited by: JustSomeGuy on Dec 5, 2008 7:24 AM

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