Windows TS CAL's

I have a problem related to TS CAL's.
I have SGD 4.20.959, Windows 2003 Std SP1 as app server, 10 TS user CAL's
Each time a SGD user open an application, a TS CAL is used.
So if a SGD user open 10 aplications then 10 TS CAL are used and no more applications can be opened.
It's a normal behavior???

SGD opens up a new RDP session for every application. Since the Windows Terminal server does not see that it has been started by the same user (which should be seen because SGD just acts like a tunnel for this information) it takes a new User TSCAL for every connection. It is generally known that Windows has problems with the User TSCAL.
When using Device TSCALs this problem does not exist since Windows sees that the request is comming from the same client.

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Will WS2012R2 User CALs be compatible with the next Windows Server CALs?

We plan to get a new server now and it will be installed with Windows Server 2012 R2. We will get also some User CALs.
I wanted to know if when we upgrade the server from Windows Server 2012 R2 to the next version of Windows Server, if those User CALs are still usable.
Thank you

CALs are backward valid, not forward.
That means that if you have Windows 2008 CAL, you can access services on:
Windows 2008,Windows2003,Windows2000,WindowsNT, but not on Windows 2008R2,Windows 2012,Windows2012R2.

Do we need CALS for windows server 2008 R2 and 2012 R2 if 2008 R2 is just a stepping stone?

We currently have a server on Windows Server 2008 RC SP2 64-bit with approximately 20 clients.
We want to upgrade to Windows server 2012 R2 but first need to upgrade to Windows 2008 R2 to allow us to do a straight upgrade.
Is it possible to upgrade to Windows Server 2008 R2 with the 5 CAL's included and then upgradeto 2012 R2 and install 20 new CAL's and keep all users accounts and domain PC's the same?

Ok sorry for using the wrong terminology... I was under the impression for each client (Computer) connecting to the server we will need a CAL (Client Activation License) in order for the computer to be a domain PC on the server. Do I need 20 CALS's
for Windows Server 2008 R2 and then another for Windows Server 2012 R2 if we are only upgrading to 2008 R2 to be able to upgrade to 2012 R2 without having to do a clean install.
For WindowsServer (Standard edition or Enterprise edition or DataCenter edition), a Client Access License (CAL) is required for each device (if you're using the per-Device CAL licensing method), or, is required for each user (if you're using the per-User
CAL licensing method).
(whether you use per-Device, or per-User, is up to you, it comes down to cost).
CALs are version-specific (to a point) - i.e. if you purchased WS2008 CALs for your 20 devices, for use with your WS2008 server, and you are now upgrading that server to WS2012, you need to upgrade your CALs.
If you are adding a second server which is WS2012, and you are keeping your WS2008 server, you need to upgrade your CALs (because you only purchased WS2008 CALs which don't grant you the rights to connect to the newer server).
If you were to install your second server as WS2008, you wouldn't need to purchase additional CALs, because as long as the version is the same, a single CAL grant you access to unlimited server (of the same version).
CALs can be tricky to correctly license.
Here's some introductory reading:
http://www.microsoft.com/licensing/about-licensing/client-access-license.aspx#tab=1
And, none of this relates to the technical aspects of product installation/configuration at all (e.g. clean install vs. upgrade).
Windows Server CALs are not license keys/tokens/files which you install/load/download - Windows Server CALs are quite literally paper-based (just like a drivers license or car registration). You are required to have them, to be correctly licensed, but, you
don't physically do anything with them to own/drive a car.
Don
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Windows Multipoint Server CAL requirement

Hello,
I have to do an installation of Windows Multipoint Server 2011 Premium. By default it comes with 20 users access for Remote Desktop. My query is should I have CAL'S for first 20 users or is it free with base server licensing. And what if I have to add more
than 20 users for Remote Dekstop.
Thanks in advance.

Hello,
on the Microsoft Product Use Rights(PUR) is mentioned that for using Multipoint Server Premium, you Need MPS CALs+windows Server CALs.
only with this exceptions:
CALs are not required to access server software running a Web or HPC Workload.
CALs not required for access in a Physical OSE used solely for hosting and managing Virtual OSEs.
Windows MultiPoint Server 2012 Connector:
You may install and use the Windows Server 2012
MultiPoint Connector software on any device that is licensed to access Windows Server 2012. You may use this software only to access the MultiPoint Server software.
If you access the server software from this device solely to use the MultiPoint Dashboard you do not need a MultiPoint Server CAL.
thanks
diramoh

Windows CAL

the environment is a mixture of Windows 2003, 2008 and 2012 different editions. All of them are mixed physical and virtual combinations. All the domain controllers are in Windows 2003. With respect to CALs, what CALs will be required? 2003 or 2012?

This is an exerpt from the Windows CAL Licensing guide:
A Windows Server CAL gives a user or device the right to access any edition of Windows Server of the same or earlier version. (You cannot use an earlier-version CAL to access a later-version server.)
Document available here: http://download.microsoft.com/download/6/8/9/68964284-864d-4a6d-aed9-f2c1f8f23e14/Assessing_Windows_Server_Licensing.pdf
For further information about CAL:
http://www.microsoft.com/licensing/about-licensing/client-access-license.aspx#tab=
So you would need Server 2012 CALs.
Craig.

SQL Server Processor/Core Licensing and Windows CALs

I've scoured the internet for an answer to this question, so I'm assuming the scenario isn't as common as I think, or people are purposely looking the other way because they don't want to know the answer :)
The application in question is pretty simple - An ASP.net web application using ASP.net forms auth (no end-user Windows Authentication). Using Windows Server 2008 Web Edition, we've confirmed that no Windows CAL is required on the front-end web tier.
So then on the back-end data tier (SQL Server) it also seems pretty straight forward. As far as I can tell, the SQL Server licensing makes it pretty clear "...users who input data into, query, or view data through a web-based application... require
a CAL". So that makes it pretty obvious, you need a CAL or a per-processor/pre-core license of SQL Server.
Here's where it gets tricky... What about the licensing requirements for the Windows Server that SQL Server is running on? Do we need a
WindowsCAL for each connection from the Web Tier to the SQL Server? Note that Windows CALs and SQL Server CALs are completely separate in terms if purchasing, and nothing says a SQL Server CAL is of a higher
order than a Windows CAL (thereby covering both).
It would seem ridiculous (IMHO) to allow unlimited connections to SQL, but then dump you back to the CAL model on Windows (since there is no "unlimited" option in Windows Server). But licensing is a strange beast, and non-compliance is not
something I'm interested in.
Any insight with pointers to Microsoft documentation would be greatly appreciated!
Thanks guys,

For those of you who would like an answer on this without calling licensing support, here's the answer :)
Windows Server 2012 does NOT have a CAL limitation for "public" web traffic. I specifically asked about ASP.net Forms Authenticated users, and the licensing specialist said any website that uses anonymous authentication which then passes
auth onto some other back-end process (e.g. ASP.net forms auth) you do not need a Windows CAL. You DO need a Windows CAL if your application is somehow tied to services on the Windows box where the website user actually enters credentials which are authenticated
against the local account store or domain controller. So to me, that's a pretty simple answer -
anonymous auth = No CALs
integrated auth = CAL required
Ok, onto SQL Server... As quoted from my original post, SQL licensing makes it very clear that ANY connection to the database requires a CAL, even if it's multiplexed through IIS or some other middle-tier. Bottom line? Simple answer here as well:
public website with a SQL back-end = per-socket or core-licensing (since you can't count "CALs" on a public site)
Finally, the most illusive question (for me anyway). What about the copy of Windows running your SQL Server? the answer here was - No CALs required if it's purely a SQL Server connection. Meaning, if all your Windows server is doing
is running SQL Server and fielding query requests from your front-end IIS ASP.net app, you're do NOT need any Windows Server CALs. You obviously do need SQL CALs or socket/core licenses, which I covered above. You will however need Windows CALs
on your SQL Server box for any Support specialists or Deployment folks who remote into the machine using TS or using UNC file shares and such to work with the server.
Hopefully that helps someone else looking for a quick answer. And as the moderator noted, if that doesn't make sense you should definitely call the licensing specialist. They are very helpful and surprising quick to answer questions (without
any sales pressure).
Thanks for posting this, I am in the same boat. I will have a public facing web server and a backend SQL server. The web site requires all users to login so they can see the content. We use forms authentication as well (no Windows or Active Directory authentication).
The application does all the authentication itself using the backend database (credentials are stored in a database table).
I just called the licensing pre-sales number and spoke to a rep who said the web server would require CALs (or an External Connector in this case), because I am requiring people to login to view the content. He said it did not matter what the authentication
method was. I clearly explained the web application handles all the authentication, but he still said we would need CALs in this case because users must authenticate to access the content. He likened it to a museum. If you need to buy a ticket to get in to
see the content (in this case login to the web site), you need CALs he said.
He also said I would need Windows Server CALs/EC for the Windows server that hosts the database. I will be using SQL Core licensing, so no additional SQL CALs will be needed.
Just thought I would share what I learned.
Sorry to dredge up an old thread, but I have been doing a lot of reading on CALs lately in anticipation of launching a public website. Reading the license agreement, I don't think you need CALs on the front end Windows Server 2012 just because people
are authenticating. The Windows Server 2012 license agreement makes no mention of this that I can find. It only says you need CALs for employees or your affiliates' employees. A non-employee visitor does not fall under the definition an affiliate.
The SQL Server licensing is tricky, and not written for public website access. Is every user with an account to your online store need a CAL? The only other option is SQL Server Enterprise licensed by CPU cores.

How many CALs do i need? Server 2012 - Exchange 2013 - RDP

Hi,
(I apologize for the grammar and spelling mistakes, but im confident in the fact that the text is understandable. If not, please let me know. I have used UK English for spelling.)
I did some research and read the following:
(unable to post links, my email needs to be 'verified')
And some MS pages regarding the CALs for Windows 2008 R2 (don't ask why).
This is basically what i want to do:
OS:
Windows 2012 R2, possibly 2x because of the RDS role.
Roles Server1: Active Directory and Exchange 2013
Roles Server2: File server and RDS
Users:
20
PC’s:
Approx. 15. Not sure about the exact numbers, but i am sure that there are more users than client pc’s.
Users RDP:
Starting with 10 but eventually every user will be using RDP, so it might be also 20. The 10 we start with will not have the ability of logging into a client PC but RDP only.
MS Software:    Outlook 2010 or 2013, depends on the support by MS.
We are going to start with an AD with a home folder, roaming profiles and an email account. If everything go’s whell, we plan to start letting users connect tot heir workspace via RDP.
I came to the following conclusion and need your input on this:
20 User CALs, As far as i know, I need 1 user cal for an AD account and a RDP cal for
one RDP account. Without a User CAL, i cant issue a RDP user cal, is this correct?
20 RDP User CALs, does this mean that all my users can log into a RDS session via any client, even their own private pc?
No Device calls, redundant?
20 Exchange CALs, I am not sure about this one, the second link i found only mentions acces via web and mobile. I would also like to know if the Exchange CAL is per user or email. If it’s per user, then wat do i do with an email that is meant for multiple
users?
2 Server CALs, This is just buying 2012R2 isnt it? Does this also allow me to use one physically and the other as a VM in the physical one? Just asking, im not really going to use a VM.
Hope you guys can help me out on this one, i didn’t expect the CALs would bet his complicated.

Hi,
Under Per User licensing, you need a license for each unique human that will access the software. Based on what you have written above, below is a general description of the licenses you need:
20 Per User Windows Server CALs
20 Per User RDS CALs
20 Per User Exchange Standard CALs
1 Exchange Server 2013 Standard license
2 Windows Server 2012 R2 Standard licenses
Notes:
Each Server 2012 R2 Standard license allows you to install it on a physical server (up to 2 CPU sockets) with the Hyper-V role installed, and install it in 2 VMs. The key here from a licensing perspective is the installation on the physical server
is only being used for Hyper-V--if you use it for some other purpose (like AD, SQL, etc.) then you are only permitted to run 2012 R2 on 1 VM without an additional license. Running your servers as VMs is the common and recommended method now, unless
you have a specific reason not to.
I listed two 2012 R2 licenses above because from your description I get the idea that you will have 2 physical servers.
It is preferred to split key roles/functions onto separate VMs if possible. For example, it would be preferred to have Exchange on its own VM(s). This is obviously subject to your specific situation, budget, etc. In smaller environments
some roles will be combined in order to save money.
I did not include licenses for Office in the list above.
Yes, Per User licensing means the user can access the software from any device, even their own private pc.
I recommend you purchase licenses through a MS volume licensing program that fits your needs. Adding Software Assurance (SA) to your licenses will allow you to get the new versions when they are released as well as give some additional licensing rights.
As always, it is essential to read the Product Use Rights (PUR) document, licensing agreements, terms and conditions, etc., as applicable to your licenses.
I recommend you also take a look at the Office365 plans that include Office/Exchange/etc. There are Exchange-only plans as well. Depending on your needs it may be preferred to have your users access Exchange in the cloud and run RDS on premises.
Licensing Windows Server 2012 R2 Remote Desktop Services and Microsoft Desktop Applications for Use with RDS
http://www.microsoft.com/licensing/about-licensing/briefs/winserv2012-rds.aspx
Exchange Server 2013 licensing
http://products.office.com/en-us/exchange/microsoft-exchange-server-licensing-licensing-overview
-TP

How do I install user client access licence on Windows Server 2012

I have recently setup a Windows Server 2012 Std. I have not configured any roles yet. The server licence has been installed and activated successfully. How do I get my Windows Server CAL 2012 ( tracking ID is 15 digits) onto the server. I have google
but did not get the correct result. The closest I found was
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc540509(v=ws.10).aspx.
I am not too familiar with the Server 2012 display so I am not certain if I am missing something. If the CALs are not captured on the server, will this restrict user access to the 2012 server?
I thank you in advance for your assistance.

Hi,
I’m glad to hear that you have found the thread as reference. As DonPick mentioned, since these are Windows Server CALs, there is no activation nor input of any kind needed. You bought the
CALs, you have the paper, you are now licensed, there is no configuration step necessary. If there is anything else I can do for you, please do not hesitate to let me know. I will be very happy to help.
Best Regards,
Andy Qi
Andy Qi
TechNet Community Support

RDS or Server CALs

Hi,
I've Windows Server 2008 R2 Standard and I've 60 Thin-clients with mixture of Linux and Windows.
For Client to access the Server 2008 R2 which license I need to purchase. I'll be connecting from Clients to server RDP.
I'm confused here could any one help me on this ?
Thanks
Sathish

Hi Sathish,
Thank you for posting in Windows Server Forum.
Here agree with the word of diramoh, we must need both types of CAL (Windows Server CALs + RDS CALs) to access by users. In addition, you can also contact Volume Licensing center for more information.
Apart from that please check below article for general guide.
Licensing: when do I need CAL?
http://blogs.technet.com/b/volume-licensing/archive/2014/03/10/licensing-how-to-when-do-i-need-a-client-access-license-cal.aspx
Hope it helps!
Thanks.
Dharmesh Solanki
TechNet Community Support

Device CALs User CALs?

This CAL thing is throwing me for a loop and maybe someone can help me out.
I'll lay out my network first. I have 2 server currently, one is SBS 2008 and one is Server 2008 R2. I plan on updating them to Server 2012 Standard.
The networks I have also have staff and students. There is always a set amount of PC's being used about 14 hours a day. Would it be better to get User CALs or Device CALs.
From what I read on the forum a Device CAL marrys to the device and a User CAL marrys to a profile or user login? IF so is there any differences between the CALS? If I buy the user CALs will the devices they use still be able to be managed?
Thanks a bunch

For Windows CALs, it's all paper-based activity (i.e. there is nothing to download nor install nor configure on your systems).
per-device vs. per-user, the only thing which matters is the cost of buying them (they are otherwise identical from a use-rights perspective).
if you have more users (humans, not logon accounts) than you have devices (workstations,laptops, etc but not servers), then buy per-device CALs.
When a human sits at a device, and logs on to that device, and the logon authenticates to a Windows Server, you need a CAL for that authenticated connection to be properly licensed. In this scenario, either a User CAL, or a Device CAL, is acceptable.
If a user authenticates/connects at that workstation, to multiple Windows Servers (e.g. fileserverA and FileserverB), only a single Windows Server CAL is needed (i.e. you don't need a CAL for every server-connection).
So, you can buy either type, or, a mixture, whatever makes sense for your organisation's way of working, shared PC's, shiftworkers, etc.
In larger scenarios, it may be even more economical to look at "CAL Suites", or various other "bundles", if you have more than a few Windows Servers and other MS server-based products in your organisation.
Don
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Server CAL License for SAP Server

Hi
Do we need Windows Server CAL for SAP Server, as we have Server 2008 R2 for our SAP Server.
Please guide.
Regards
Ajay Goel

Hi Wee,
By definition every device connecting to a Windows server needs a CAL. However, neither the OS nor the SAP system "counts" them.
Depending on which kind of clients you have (Windows XP/Vista OEM, Volume licenses etc.) you have a CAL included.
So based on SAP users created and other users required in your landscape , you may procure respective CALS.
Hope this helps.
Regards,
Deepak Kori

Client Access License ( CAL ) Enquiry

Dear Microsoft Team,
We have one IBM Server in our organization, we have installed Server 2008 R2 Std on it, we have created one domain and active directory in server 2008.
We have 30 Linux embedded thin clients and linux desktop in our branch for the users,
Our users wants use rdp (remote desktop application) application is Linux to access Server Machine through LAN connection to work on their process.
Hence we are planned to procure Client ACCESS License for our Server,
Hence there are many types of CAL License, we have confused which CAL license is right CAL product for us.
Kindly suggest which CAL product we should procure
WinSvrCAL 2012 SNGL OLP NL DvcCAL (R18-04277)
WinRmtDsktpSrvcsCAL 2012 SNGL OLP NL DvcCAL (6VC-02071)
Kindly suggest me which CAL Product is suitable for us.
Regards,
Nithya.

Hi Nithya,
Thank you for posting in Windows Server Forum.
Yeah, as diramoh suggested we must need both types of CAL (Windows Server CALs + RDS CALs) to access by users. In addition, you can also contact
Volume Licensing center for more information.
Apart from that please check below article for general guide.
Licensing: when do I need CAL?
http://blogs.technet.com/b/volume-licensing/archive/2014/03/10/licensing-how-to-when-do-i-need-a-client-access-license-cal.aspx
Hope it helps!
Thanks.
Dharmesh Solanki
TechNet Community Support

Help diagnosing colour management problem - windows 7, CS3, Eye-one display 2

Hi,
I had my colour management all set up and working on my old laptop then I foolishly got a new laptop and am completely failing to get things straight.
The new laptop (Asus N56VM with Nvidia GT 630M) is running Windows 7.. I've calibrated the screen using my Pantone (X-Rite) eye-one display-two and straight away it looks much better to the eye. I calibrate to native white point which I always do with laptops.
I've used the following procedure to make Windows 7 load the profile at startup and removed the GretagMacbeth tool which attempts to do the same:
http://www.laszlopusztai.net/2009/08/23/stop-losing-display-calibration-with-windows-7/
Everything looks great except when I attempt to use anything with colour management.
Eg. All my old photos looked great in Adobe Bridge until I activated Color Management via it's settings and suddenly they look awful - sky blues turn turquoise.
If I open an sRGB tagged file in photoshop it looks the same - awful (using Preserve Embedded Profile and with a working space of Adobe 1998 in Color Settings)
Only way I can get images to look normal in Photoshop is to open them then ASSIGN the monitor profile to the image (I know this makes no sense to do and is in no way a workaround)... and it looks great.
Something's not right somewhere but not sure where to start looking since there are so many variables. Can anyone suggest a route to investigate based on what I've said so far? This is driving me nuts!

Ok, I use the same tool and software to calibrate my monitor. I disagree with Lazlo p about resetting Color Management. What you should have is under Devices>Display, click "Use my settings for this device". (You will have to go to the place you checked Windows display calibration and uncheck it first.)
When I first started using Win 7, I did not have either checked, (I didn't know about Windows Display Cal) and had fits. Then I checked "Use my settings..." and it ran fine.
The reason the Gregg MacBeth Calibration Loader tool is needed has to do with their reluctance in updating the software completely to run in 64 bit. The Calibration Loader has always been a part of their software and for at least, XP, has run seamlessly. I now have the icon for Cal Loader in my tray, and after reboot, I'll click it to be sure the profile has loaded. Most of the time it has.
I verified it with the support group who verified the need to use that tool in 64 bit. The workaround? An entirely new software package at a considerable sum!
So I did what Lazlo suggested, and when I had completed the changes, I clicked the cal loader icon in the Tray.
The display changed!
I trust the Cal Loader.
I do not grasp what MS implies in their discussion of WCS vs ICC, especially with respect that WCS is better.
Finally, I am doubtful that you should be using native white point. It's not simply a choice available to laptops, but to all LCD screens (AFAIK!). There is a huge difference between 6500K and native white point on the Dell u2412,so much so I dismissed it out of hand and tweak the colors in RGB during calibration. Your laptop may not offer that path.

Migrating from AIX to Windows

Hi all,
We are considering in a SAP R/3 4.6c to ECC6 Upgrade, the option to migrate from AIX to Windows OS.
We heard that this option is not so usual.
- Could you tell us some feedback and recommendation about it?
- What kind of issues will we face?
Thanks for your help,
Chris

> We are considering in a SAP R/3 4.6c to ECC6 Upgrade, the option to migrate from AIX to Windows OS.
>
> We heard that this option is not so usual.
Usual? What is "usual"?
> - Could you tell us some feedback and recommendation about it?
> - What kind of issues will we face?
This depends heavily (if not only) on your environment. Some thoughts:
- Windows is little endian whereas AIX is big endian; this may affect connected software (non-SAP software, filesystem transfers etc.)
- additional software plus licenses may become necessary (cluster, backup...)
- do you have enough knowledge about Windows (+ its internals) as you have on AIX? Windows is not "easier" by default just because you have a mouse to click... (even if everyone thinks it is). Windows administration is totally different to any *nix (you may need to change scripts, consider updating regularly, think about problems you didn't have before (Virus, Worms) etc.)
- Hardware for Windows is usually cheaper than Power based hardware for AIX
- Windows licenses (+ CALs) must be bought
Just as another thought: Did you consider running Linux instead? You will use the same (cheaper) hardware with a more common environment (if you come from AIX)?
Markus

Query for exact item name for CAL required

Hi,
We are e-businessoft, reseller for Microsoft softwares.
One of the customer has recently purchased windows server and now wants to purchase some user CALs. Few users will do mstsc of WinServer from within the
premises and few customers will do the mstsc from remote location, a different city. Remote user will login via internet connection into the LAN and then do mstsc
of WinServer.
Please tell me exactly what products has to be purchased to facilitate this. I have suggested the below:
1. WinSvrCAL 2012 SNGL OLP NL UsrCAL
2. WinRmtDsktpSrvcsCAL 2012 SNGL OLP NL UsrCAL
If this is correct, then please guide on how exactly this works? For example, The user doing mstsc from within premises requires item 1 only and users doing mstsc
from different city requires item 2 only, or both 1 and 2 is required in both case.
The terminal server services gives a countdown of 120 days from date of installation and ultimately expires and all connections thru mstsc stops. And then the
server is reinstalled. So one major concern is whether purchase of these CALs will stop this inconvinience for ever?
Please reply asap. CAL requirement is very urgent but can not proceed unless this clarity comes from you.

Hi,
Resellers should contact MSFT Partner Support for assistance.
In general, the scenario you describe requires both Windows Server CAL and also RDS CAL for each user/device.
This is because an RDS/TS CAL is required for correctly licensed use of RDS/TS, and in addition, because RDS/TS is used to gain access to Windows Server services/features, a Windows Server CAL is also required.
(there are different scenarios which may apply, depending upon the edition of Windows Server being used, and also, it may be less expensive, depending on the size/scale of the scenario, to instead consider CAL Suite options)
(also, note that if the Windows Server is offering MS Office, that requires Office licensing to be addressed. Also consider if the RDS/TS will allow the users/devices to consume MS Exchange or MS SharePoint or MS SQL, additional CALs for those products may
be required)
Don
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