RDS or Server CALs

Hi,
I've Windows Server 2008 R2 Standard and I've 60 Thin-clients with mixture of Linux and Windows.
For Client to access the Server 2008 R2 which license I need to purchase. I'll be connecting from Clients to server RDP.
I'm confused here could any one help me on this ?
Thanks
Sathish

Hi Sathish,
Thank you for posting in Windows Server Forum.
Here agree with the word of diramoh, we must need both types of CAL (Windows Server CALs + RDS CALs) to access by users. In addition, you can also contact Volume Licensing center for more information.
Apart from that please check below article for general guide.
Licensing: when do I need CAL?
http://blogs.technet.com/b/volume-licensing/archive/2014/03/10/licensing-how-to-when-do-i-need-a-client-access-license-cal.aspx
Hope it helps!
Thanks.
Dharmesh Solanki
TechNet Community Support

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In addition you can also refer following article for RDL configuration.
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Hi Steve,
Thank you for posting in Windows Server Forum.
Yes, agree with TP’s comment. You can also check below interoperability matrix link for details.
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I'm having an issue with running out of CALs too quickly. 70 clients with 100 Licenses.
I have Deep Freeze on several of the Thin Clients. After restarting the thin clients the revert back to a default state, removing any changes. I believe that when my RDS server issues a CAL to one of these, the thin client looses the issues CAL to it once
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Hi Jmair,
When Per Device licensing mode is used, and a client computer or device connects to an RD Session Host server for the first time, the client computer or device is issued a temporary
license by default. When a client computer or device connects to an RD Session Host server for the second time, if the license server is activated and enough RDS Per Device CALs are available, the license server issues the client computer or device a permanent,
RDS Per Device CAL. The temporary license is valid for 90 days.
An RDS Per User CAL gives one user the right to access an RD Session Host server from an unlimited number of client computers or devices. RDS Per User CALs are not enforced
by RD Licensing. As a result, client connections can occur regardless of the number of RDS Per User CALs installed on the license server. This does not absolve administrators from Microsoft Software License Terms requirements to have a valid RDS Per User CAL
for each user. Failure to have an RDS Per User CAL for each user, if Per User licensing mode is being used, is a violation of the license terms.
Client will get a Temp CAL while it firstly logged on the RDS server. After the client logged off and logged on the RDS Server again. The client will get a permanent CAL. So
you could see the temp CALs, it’s expected behavior.
More information:
Remote Desktop Services Client Access Licenses (RDS CALs)
https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc753650.aspx
Revoke a Remote Desktop Services Per Device Client Access License
https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc732416.aspx
HOW TO: Use the Terminal Services Licensing Reporter Tool (Lsreport.exe)
http://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/317592
Specify a License Server for an RD Session Host Server to Use
https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc770585.aspx?f=255&MSPPError=-2147217396
I’m glad to be of help to you!
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My questions are -
1) Am I right about installing the Office volume license on the server?
2) Do they need Office installed on the client device as well? (I wouldn't think so, but some things I'm reading say otherwise)
3) One of the reasons they want to switch to iPads (or Android devices or whatever) is to limit cost if their salesperson looses or breaks their device. So my question is, does the volume license count concurrent connections like the RDS license does or
is it somehow "tied" to the remote devices? For example -- If a salesperson does lose their device is it possible just to get another one and have them start using it without any additional licenses or is the license that was "tied" to
the old device just gone forever and we have to purchase another one to connect the new device? If the salesperson wants to RDS into the server from their home computer while their iPad is off and connect to their RD session would that require another license?
Or, if one of the people who connects to RDS who doesn't need to use Office accidentally opens "Word," will that license be then "tied" to their computer and wasted?
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Jeff Minch

Hi Pure,
Your friend of a friend is incorrect.
The statement you've made about licences being locked applies to the RDS CAL (specifically a per computer CAL), not Office. As I said before, an Office licence has nothing whatsoever to do with an RDS CAL.
There are three kinds of "common" Offices licences:
Retail.
MAK.
KMS.
Unless you're buying your copies of Office from a retail shop (or online shop) - and it doesn't sound like you are, then you can forget about retail keys.
MAK keys are accessed by one of the volume licencing agreement programs and are typically used by smaller businesses that don't have enough computers to be able to access the KMS approach to licencing or for clients that will not be able to talk to
a KMS server at least every 180 days.
MAK keys involve a once-off activation and then they never renew the activation again. This makes them ideal for things like non-Internet kiosks, field laptops and the like. The once-off activation can happen with the client being Internet-connected for
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KMS keys come in two flavours:
KMS host activation key, which is used to create a KMS "server".
KMS client key, which is a standard key that can be applied to as many volume licencing copies of Windows/Office ad you like, and which "instructs" the client to activate against the KMS server above.
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being relevant is if the copies of Office installed on the RDS Session Hosts were activated via a KMS host.
I think you need to have a read-up on RDS licencing and the expiration process:
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc732416.aspx
http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/windowsserver/en-US/3efeee70-9d23-4477-8b94-23e2643dd5bf/controlling-rds-user-cal-expiry?forum=winserverTS
Going back to your iPad clients, you need to determine whether you're using per device or per user licencing before you can figure out a way forward as far as RDS licencing goes, but again, this has nothing to do with Office licences being retained
on the device, as that scenario is not possible as Office activation doesn't work like that.
Perhaps the easiest way to depict the difference for you is to understand that RDS licencing functions outside of the RDS session while Office licencing functions within it, which is why a device being removed/lost has nothing to do with Office at all.
So long as you remember that you need to buy as many Office licences as there are clients connecting to the RDS environment, you can activate Office any way you like.
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Lain

Remote App and Desktop RDP client never succeed to logon the RDS gateway server running Windows 2012R2

Remote App and Desktop RDP client never succeed to logon the RDS gateway server running Windows 2012R2
1. Client Os : Windows 7 Pro
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Hi Kenneth,
Here for your case suggest you to configure RDP session time limit so that your user can disconnect\log off once the specific time limit reached.
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3. Select the collection which you want to edit the settings.
4. Under collections Properties, select Task and then Edit Properties.
5. In Properties dialog box, select Session.
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Computer Configuration\Policies\Administrative Templates\Windows Components\Remote Desktop Services\Remote Desktop Session Host\Session Time Limits
User Configuration\Policies\Administrative Templates\Windows Components\Remote Desktop Services\Remote Desktop Session Host\Session Time Limits
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- Set time limit for active but idle Remote Desktop Services sessions
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Please check which setting suitable for your environment and you can apply for your case.
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https://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/00c2252b-8ec0-489f-8da2-07a434a9b5a2/forum-faq-restrict-number-of-active-sessions-in-rds-2012-and-2012-r2?forum=winserverTS
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Hello,
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