Xfce without xorg?

Hi guys
A couple of times I read, that xfce can be run without X, but simply on a framebuffer (maybe even without? but I want my widescreen resolution, which I get with radeonfb, that's no problem). But there was never an explanation, howto or link to a way how to make this possible. The ${search eingine} doesn't want to give me any kind of information. But I really would love to just see it I'm not quite sure, if it is usable or stable or whatever, but I just want to see it.
So, does anybody know, how to do this or does anybody have a link to a howto, which I might have missed on my research?
Thanx for any idea!
Army

It's not like I really want use it for every day's work, this is pure interest If I really wanted pure minimalism, I wouldn't use XFCE
edit: I was rethinking about this and did some research with this new keyword gtkfb and seems like these messages of people running XFCE on framebuffer are really old, so this might have been the way, but nowadays it's no longer possible with gtk2.
But if there's somebody out there with an idea of another method or so, feel free to tell me
Last edited by Army (2008-11-14 13:05:20)

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