Yet again - audio sync

I've search for audio sync - but haven't seen the solution, so I'm posting a request.
On my CS5.0.3 system, any time I use Media Encoder to produce an MPEG2 HD file with MPEG II audio, the audio is exactly 3 frames behind the video. It can be from a sequence or a straight trancode of a file. If I use Dolby encoding, it is exactly right.
I can repeat on demand. I wouldn't think its a system setup issue, but who knows?
Any similiar experience out there?
Thanks

Tried your suggestion as amn MPEG TS straight from PPRO but no difference.
I am mux'ing as MPEG.
I'm now using a work around of AC3 (Dolby) rather than MPEG audio, which seems just fine.
(My workflow includes exporting at high bitrate intermediate file (100Mbps) before encoding for Bluray and DVD outside of adobe.)
Thanks for responding

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Audio Sync issues (again)

Hello. I know there have been numerous threads on this topic but I haven't found a solution (assuming there is one). I have been able to capture video with good audio sync and it previews ok, but after publishing it the audio is always early, and the amount of offset is different every time too.
Now what I find particularly odd is the if I import an AVI file and capture some footage in the same project, they will both preview in sync, BUT after I publish the final AVI the imported clip section is still in sync, while the captured section is out of sync. That makes absolutely no sense to me whatsoever. I have never experienced anything like that in any other program I have ever used. If there is a sync problem, then it's ALL out of sync, not just certain captured footage.
Sorry for the long winded post on an already exhausted topic, but I'm just very frustrated and feel like I spent all this money for nothing. It was a download purchase too so I can't even use the box for a doorstop.
Please Adobe, offer us a fix for this.

I am suffering with you. I have used VC since it's first release. It was a reasonably reliable product until Adobe took over. It seems clear that the former Serious Magic products are not being taken seriously by Adobe. The list of problems I've had is long and tedious and repetitive.
In a more hopeful tone, what does maintain A/V sync, at least so far, is to use a DV/firewire hookup, taking the audio from the camera. They seem to stay together that way.
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Problems with Audio Sync and Rendering

In both problems what happens is NOT consistent. If were, would think was a setting or something I was doing wrong.
About the rendering problem. I capture either through FCP Log and Capture or through my analog to digital "box", Formac Studio TVR. In both cases record in DV setting. When I then Import these files about 3 out of 4 times they need full rendering. But doing all things the same, there is that 1 out of 4th time where no rendering is needed at all. Does not seem to matter whether I capture through FCP or Foremac. Results seem the same. Like I said to begin with, if was consistent would figure that is just how the program is. But due to the time it takes to do a render, sure would be nice if could be avoided some way.
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Major "BUG" in Imovie 9 - Audio Sync Problem on Export !

Well I'm a hard-core Apple user from day one, but unfortunately today I'm not to proud about the latest version of Imovie 9.
It seems there has been a "MAJOR audio sync problem on export" in Imovie 9, since July 2009. Apple knows about this bug for a long time now, but didn't release any bugfix yet!
Here's what it's all about:
It seems if you use the (custom /manual) speed-adjustments and not the preset slider speeds, you will experience (after exporting your movie) annoying bursts of audio from clips that had been set to mude. The strange thing is that you will only experience this audio-bug after exporting, you will NOT experience it in the project playback mode!
Here's what you can do:
Find ALL the clips in your Project that are Speed Adjusted.
Instead of using a "Custom Speed" percentage, use any of the "Preset Speeds"
Preset Speeds on the Slider = 12.5%, 25%, 50%, 100%, 200%, 400%, 800%
Then, export your project as usual.
No more sync issues.
Really hope That Apple will come up with a real BUGFIX soon.
It's a shame that a major bug in a otherwise GREAT PRODUCT, hasen't been fixed yet!
What's wrong with Apple?...this is not one of their finest hours.
Still A BIG fan from Imovie HD,...I'll chance to Imovie 9 when the bugs are finaly fixed!

This is TERRIBLE! I have spent so much time working on this project, and I really don't want to adjust the speed settings to the preset levels, BECAUSE I need to motion of the video to match certain musical points. I can't re-film my video, and I needed this project done TODAY. I made a music video with some kids at summer camp, and today is the last day- the day we were supposed to all watch it together, and now, I've got NOTHING!!!! (Because I can't export it without all those glitches!)
I am MAJORLY DISAPPOINTED on this one. I've made movies in windows movie maker before, and purposely used imovie, because you know, everything on macs is supposed to be better. Well, I guess I was wrong.

Export as QuickTime Movie - lose audio sync

I have a 10 minute project that basically is a sequence of 10 nested sequences. It is an HDV project. I need to export it as a QuickTime Movie to maintain the ability to show it in HD. When I do so (using Export->QuickTime Movie - I am not using "Using QuickTime Conversion"), I maintain "Current Settings". The resulting .mov file, when played back in QuickTime Player (or anything else) has a progressively severe loss of audio sync. This is not present when playing the project within the timeline in FCP (6.0.3).
I have tried opening the project on a different computer with a virgin version of FCP 6.0.3, with the same results. I also made sure to render the individual sequences as well as the master sequence. I created a new sequence and added the individual chapters again, with the same result. I tried using the Media Manager to bring the project over to another computer - same problem. I also took this to an Apple One-to-One class with a FCP expert who couldn't figure it out either.
I could really use some help here.

First of all, thank you for responding.
I don't have a capture delay. The audio rate is 48 khz.
Interestingly, I had previously tried the separate export and stitching you suggested, but a strange thing occurred. If the resulting quicktime movie was created through a Save As... command, you wind up with a self-contained movie. When I did that, I started to get weird audio repetitions or dropouts as the movie went on. On the other hand, if I left it a reference movie, this didn't happen.
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I'm seeing playback pauses about every three seconds and audio sync issues with our live demo stream when using the OSMF/Strobe player. It happens on both our 2Mbps 720p stream and our 480p 750Kbps stream so it does not seem to be related to higher resolution/bandwidth streams. It also happens if I point directly to a stream asset or if I point to a .f4v with both streams listed for dynamic so it does not seem to be related to dynamic streaming specifically.
The same live streams play back very well without pauses or audio sync issues in the Akamai's dynamic player and even slightly better with JW 5.2.
I have viewed the OSMF/Strobe playback on three different laptops of various age (3 months to 2 years) and two are Windows and one is Linux. I have also tried the various buffering options on the Flash Media Player Setup and Strobe setup and it has not made a noticeable difference.
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To see the stream with the OSMF/Strobe player, go to: http://live.kulabyte.com/osmf
I do not have JW set up for public viewing yet, but the two above show the distinct difference.
We are really hoping to start pointing our customers towards the OSMF player because of the support provided by the community and Adobe, but we have to get the quality of the playback to be acceptable first.
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Hi Tim,
You need to add this setting:
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I know that the setup page does not contain this option and it is not documented in the UserGuide. We simply missed it. Sorry.
Also note that the dynamic buffering algorithms are not being used for dynamic streaming content. I tried to explain this here:
https://sourceforge.net/adobe/smp/wiki/Dynamic%20Buffering/
Looking forward to your confirmation that this solved your issue.
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I shot DV footage on a PD150 cam. The band recorded a CD from sound board to replace the mic audio of the camera. I'm running Final Cut Pro 3, and I have already converted through Quicktime the CD tracks to aiff files running at 48 ( they were 44.1) and 16 bit. The DV cam Orignal audio was also recorded at 48/16. Now when I try to sync the Cd audio (48/16) to the video clips 1: the audio sync drifts off during the song, and though it started right, the whole sync is way off by end. 2: The audio file in the track bar is longer than the video clip in the track bar above. huh? Could it be data rate Audio 187kbps vs. Video 188kbps or should I try and slow/speed up the play rate of either vid or audio. Or is this an impossible meshing of media?
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As Jim says, it's a function of how this was done. Next time you will know to look for ways to avoid the issue. But all is not lost.
I'll give you the skeleton and you can figure it out.
Find exact sync points near the beginning and end of the "video audio" and the "CD audio". Use drum beats you can be sure are the same. Identify them by ear and then by their waveforms, and put clip (not timeline) markers at those points.
Sync up the ones near the beginning exactly. Now go to the other two, find out how far apart they are, and write it down. How? I haven't got all day.
Calculate the time between the 2 markers in the video clips's audio, and between the markers in the CD audio.
Translate both of those numbers into frames.
Calculate the percentage by which the audio is longer CD audio / video audio = X%.
Go into Soundtrack Pro or audio app of your choice and make a version of the CD audio that is sped up by X%.
Bring that back to FCP and replace the version on the timeline with it.
If the markers didn't survive, find the sync points in the new CD version. Line up at the beginning. If the ones near the end now match, everything is done and you can call me "Helpful" and "Solved". If not you can be angry at me or read it again.
Good luck!

9.0.2 update - audio sync isuues

I have just seen that update 9.0.2 is available that addresses the audio sync issues.

To be SURE that you are not simply copying a previously rendered movie, make a tiny change to the project OR remove the movies from the media browser, THEN re-export it. Tell us if that works.
Thanks for your suggestion. But let me make sure I understand it. I'm not doing any copying. I'm simply playing DV files in iMovie. That the files themselves are OK I take from the fact that when I play them in QuickTime there is no problem with the synchronization. When I played them in iMovie '11, version 9.0.1, the problem was large. When I reinstalled 9.0, the problem was smaller. Now that I have installed 9.0.2, I seem to have the larger problem associated with 9.0.1. So it looks like I will have to take out my iLife '11 disk again and reinstall 9.0. At this point, the best (partial) solution I can come up with is to split up the long event-clips using MPEG Streamclip, once I have figured out how to do that. I'm also worried about destructive editing, or the space required to keep split and unsplit copies of everything. So I guess I don't understand the relevance of your suggestion. Could you explain? Thanks.
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CS4 audio sync problems

Hi all,
sorry if this question is old hat - I've searched the forums and can't seem to get a clear answer (most refer to CS3 and before) so thought I'd ask anew.
My preview in Premiere CS4 is fine, as is the preview in Encore CS4. The video was captured from four tapes (HD as mpeg and SD as Matrox AVI) in Premiere. The final DVD (10 minutes) consists of 21 clips. All but one are OK - this one has the voices well out of sync with the video, even though other clips taken from the same tape are fine.
I also had a major problem recently with an MP4 from youtube, which I guess is the same issue - everything else was fine, but this one clip was well out.
I'm guessing by now this is an old problem. What's the solution, please?
Thanks
Paul.

Newbie to Adobe here ...
Okay, so after spending over 14 hours trying to fix the audio sync problem I fixed mine. After editing my project I selected Sequence > Sequence Settings > Playback Settings > under Realtime Playback make sure the "Desktop Video Display During Playback" box is selected. Next, in "External Device" change the setting from "None" to your next option. Mine reads DV: 29.97 720 X 480i. Next, Under "Export" section in that same window select the in "External Device" select the DV option again. Also, you might want to "Disable video output when in background" ...select that box at the bottom of the screen.
Now, try recording the video to the tape ....my audio now sync's as normal. I hope it works for you.\
One more thing ... you can keep the "Desktop Audio" button selected.

Audio Sync Issue When Exporting to Quicktime

Currently using Premiere Pro CS3 3.2 and Quicktime 7.5.5
When I export to a quicktime .mov, my audio is a few frames out of sync. I've tried downgrading to older versions of quicktime with no success. Everything is completely in sync inside Premiere. If I import my rendered out-of-sync .mov back into Premiere, it magically syncs up fine again. It's the weirdest thing.
Help!

Scott:
There is a workaround.
I never really found a solid cause/solution, but if you're noticing that you have a couple of white frames at the end of your Quicktime exports, then you're probably suffering the same problem I have. Tech people I have checked with have suggested that the problem may be related to the use of .mp3 sound files (as opposed to .wav) in the Premiere project, but after removing them and replacing them with .wav's the problem persisted.
I am not technical enough to figure out exactly what's causing the problem, but I think it must have something to do with the Adobe Media Encoder (at least how it works on my computer). From what I've read on the subject, the Media Encoder is Premiere's Achilles's Heel.
Changing versions of Quicktime did nothing. Others trying to solve this problem have tried exporting their files with every conceivable variation of options and settings in the Adobe Media Encoder with no positive result.
I'm not the only one with this issue, but searches of the Internet show it to be relatively rare, so it's probably some weird glitch somewhere deep in my system. It's not widely-reported enough for anyone to care about addressing this bug. Of the few people that I've found suffering from this anomaly, none have found a fix.
But the good news is that I have found a workaround that accomplishes getting a quicktime file out properly that does work for me. I avoid the Adobe Media Encoder completely.
Step 1: Go to File > Export > Movie, and under Settings > General choose QuickTime, under Video > Compressor choose H.264, then Uncompressed Audio. I have not experimented with other settings, but believe that most of them will do just fine.
If you examine the quicktime file you've just exported, you'll see it works just swell; i.e. no white frames at the end of the movie and the sound syncs up perfectly. Okay, sounds great---but there's no way to limit the data rate using this method, which means we're stuck with a ridiculously large file.
The solution is to load the Quicktime file that you've just exported into Quicktime Pro, and now export it using data rate compression / sound compression options to suit your tastes. Bingo!
The other workaround that I have heard from some is to export your movie (again, avoiding the Adobe Media Encoder, instead using File > Export > Movie) as an Uncompressed AVI, and then compress with QT pro as before. This method didn't work for me, something about not having the proper codec on my system to read the AVI file that was exported, which makes absolutely zero sense but I couldn't find the right codec anywhere, even after identifying it with some super-duper codec identification utility. Go figure!
So, you'll have to get QT Pro ($30 I think) to use this workaround, but it does work, and that's what counts. I have no idea if there's a QT Pro clone or similar program available out there. Compression/decompression and all that jazz is way beyond me and I'm just happy to be able to get my file finally out there in working condition.
The only other bit of information I might share with you is that I tried searching the Internet at great length to try and solve this issue, but on the rare occasion I did find someone suffering this problem they were as confounded and frustrated as I was, and no one had a real solution. I continued to search with different search terms and tripped over the clues to this solution when searching for "white frame problem" in relation to Premiere. I even believe that if you search the Abobe forums you may find some posts about it, so if you're inclined to learn more about it, I suggest concentrating your searches with terms that refer to the white frame problem/issue, instead of the terms I used for so long, such as "Premiere Audio Sync Quicktime" and the endless permutations thereof.
But I'll bet this workaround works for you. Let me know, and if you'd like me to try it on one of your exports on my computer I'd be happy to give it a go.
I have often wondered if upgrading to CS4 would solve this problem. Are you using CS3 like me? If I could be sure CS4 made this issue vanish I would jump on it, but there just isn't enough information out there to know for sure. I'm inclined to think not.
Please do let me know if this solution works for you, or if you dig up any new information.
Thanks!

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Hi Royal
To answer your question directly, the DVD standard is 99 chapters. iDVD works around this limitation by resetting chapter 100 and starting over at 1 again.
You can always create your slideshow in iPhoto, iMovie or a 3rd party slideshow app like PhotoPresenter, Fotomagico, etc. or save it as a QT movie file and add the movie file to an iDVD slideshow.
Here's a good link that OT has set up as a good example while using PhotoPresenter:
http://web.me.com/toad.hall/Demo3/PhotoPresenterThemes.html
Like I mentioned above, there are a number of third party apps that work just as well if you search this forum for additional examples.
Hope this helps but if not jusrt come on back.
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Strange Flash Audio Sync Issue

This is by far the strangest problem I have come upon and
can't find anything in any forum discussing it. My site is
www.aloversscent.com. We are trying to put up 4 videos. I am
editing in FCP and compressing in Compressor to H.264 and then
making the files flv files to bring directly into Flash. All of
them are working fine except for our third episode, Operation Fox
Hunt. The audio sync is going off when the title cards come up,
about a 1/3 of the way through the video and only then. I went back
and made new exports where I tried filling in the blank audio
pieces under the cards with Slugs, I tried creating the title in
LiveType and then transfering it over instead of using the FCP
title cards. But neither worked. The strange thing is they work
fine when I play them in Quicktime. It's only when they play in
Flash that they get out of sync. If you scrub through the timeline
they will sometimes match back up again but while playing they
always get out of sync. I have run out of answers and need help
bad. Please let me know if you have any ideas.

Are the audio files being brought into Flash as FLV?
The only audio sync solution I have found is to set the MP3
compression to
anything higher than the default of 16kbps (Publish
Settings).
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> This is by far the strangest problem I have come upon
and can't find
> anything
> in any forum discussing it. My site is
www.aloversscent.com. We are trying
> to
> put up 4 videos. I am editing in FCP and compressing in
Compressor to
> H.264 and
> then making the files flv files to bring directly into
Flash. All of them
> are
> working fine except for our third episode, Operation Fox
Hunt. The audio
> sync
> is going off when the title cards come up, about a 1/3
of the way through
> the
> video and only then. I went back and made new exports
where I tried
> filling in
> the blank audio pieces under the cards with Slugs, I
tried creating the
> title
> in LiveType and then transfering it over instead of
using the FCP title
> cards.
> But neither worked. The strange thing is they work fine
when I play them
> in
> Quicktime. It's only when they play in Flash that they
get out of sync. If
> you
> scrub through the timeline they will sometimes match
back up again but
> while
> playing they always get out of sync. I have run out of
answers and need
> help
> bad. Please let me know if you have any ideas.
>

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I've downloaded a straight VHS tape (with no audio sync problems) into final cut pro once I had changed the Camera setting to 32Khz and the capture and sequeence presets to 32khz as well (it was all aout of sync when the settings were 48Khz).
The problem now, which is driving me MAD, is I have 13 hours of VHS-C tapes, which I have put into a VHS cassette converter to download and the audio is out of sync. The capture presets are the same as above (i.e. 32KHZ) . Why is this? I downloaded them initially at 48Khz (settings on the camera 48Khz and FCP at 48Khz in capture and sequence settings), but this was also out of sync.
Why is it different from one VHS tape to a VHS-C tape?
I hope there is a God out there that can help with this one?
Thanks!

Eagleray:
I capture through a ADVC-100.
I use to find the same problem playing VHS tapes with a standard VHS player from time to time and never solved it. The out of sync audio appears when capturing some specific tapes from specific sources:
- All my home tapes recorded in my old VHS recorder shows a audio problem; not specifically out of sync, but some audio "cracks" from time to time, like an electronic noise. No way to find a capture setings that works.
- Some customers VHS tapes that showed the out of sync (no noises) and again, no combination of digitalizer settings made it works. Had to resync the audio editing and stretching in an external audio editor or cutting shorts parts and syncing them with video. The our of sync appears in small captured portions, like 10 min or so.
- Never found a sync or audio problem capturing from VHC-C (the small VHS tapes) playing them with the tape adapter in the player.
I google long hours about this problems and all that I learned is that some old VHS recorders had not a "synchro" signal in the tape.
As I told you, I don't use any pro VHS deck, just my consumer "state of the art" VHS home recorder.
I hope there is a God out there that can help with this one?
I don't think HE visit these forums.

Why is audio sync such a problem??

A year after learning from this forum about 16 bit audio my biggest problem has been, and still is, AUDIO SYNC !
Here is the latest oddity and any comments would be appreciated:
2 months ago I did a one hour wedding tape in 16 bit. With 90 gig free I brought it into iMovie for a very minor rough edit and then shared it back to tape. The resulting tape was out of audio sync but after black recording the first minute of tape and repeating the process it was back in sync??? Think it was a fluke? Guess again. I purchased 2 cams at the same time and gave one to my son. His 80 min video of the same wedding was on 2 tapes the first of which gave me the same result with the same successful redo. So on the 20 min tape I did the 1 min of black first and it was in sync on the first try. I suspect something to do with the amount of time for cam to get ready and the amount of black selected in front??? How does one determine the best delay time and black time when setting up a 'Share to Camcorder' and has this happened to others?

Hi Arthur:
Has it happened to others? You betcha...including yours truly.
#1-
I just answered one of your posts regarding extracting audio. I presume you ask because you know that if you extract the audio from the video prior to sharing back to tape, it will help sync the Audio and video together.
In the mean time (tho you have probably already read these..)
http://www.danslagle.com/mac/iMovie/audio/1001.shtml
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=42974
#2-You have a Sony D8 TRV350...before you 'Share' from iMovie to the Camera, Do the following:
*Highlight one audio clip by clcking on it
*Go to Edit > Select All
*Then go to Advanced > Lock Audio at Playhead
(This will make all of you audio 'Lock' the beginning of each audio clip to each video clip)
*Then-while everything is still highlighted-take your mouse and hold it down while you click on the first video clip and gently slide it to the right about one little spacer on the timeline. This will move all of your video and locked audio together and leave a little 'slug' at the beginning of your movie.
That's just another way to be sure, once your are finished and wanting to share to tape or VHS, that your camera or recorder will has sufficient time to get ready to record.
And there is always the "Add __ second to beinning of video" or at __seconds of Black"..options when you share.
I really hope this was understandable!
Sue

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