Z87-GD65 Mosfet Quality Problem?

I've been looking for some info or datasheet about Z87-GD65 mosfets. But only info I could find is they are some low rds(on) K03J5 / K03J3 from Renesas. But actually there aren't any bit of info&datasheet on Renesas's website. After mailing to Renesas then I found out that it's EOL product and not supported anymore.
That's kinda worrying.
Even G43 is using the same LFPAKs as MPower. G45 has some decent Powerpaks from ON Semi. XPower has some nice Powerstages from IR.
In recent years D letter in "GD" line has the meaning of the DrMOS mosfets. But now it's kinda gimmicky that GD has somewhat inferior-or unknown quality stuff...
It's really weird to see that MSI is kind of cheaping out on their more expensive and somewhat flagship gaming motherboard. I guess they are just telling reviewers to not removing the heatsink and find out what lies below.
Now I start understanding why MSI keep losing market share in motherboard industry each year... 6 years ago they were 2nd in fron of Gigabyte. Now Gigabyte is almost in the first place and even ASRock is clearly draw away with MSI.
That's really worrying...

This is a user to user forum, please contact MSI for exact part numbers etc.
>>How to contact MSI.<<
You found a single review of a Z87I-gd65 which mentioned those part numbers and don't know if that is true and they didn't even know who made them.
http://extremespec.net/msi-z87i-motherboard-review-design-testing-performance/2/
Also, in any review of any of these boards (both the M-atx and ATX variants all of the reviewers took some time to speak to the quality of the compoents.
The flagship models of MSI are the Mpower Xpower, although the GD65 gaming reviews very well indeed. Much better than the ones you are trying to advertise.

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