Zen Xtra Playlists Limit

Hi,
I have created 53 playlists on my Zen Xtra 60 GB. I try to create more, but nothing happens. I tried Notmad Explorer, and the result is same (no result ).
I have finally found somewhere info that 53 is a limit (?!?!?!). But there is no info about it on Zen Box, instructions nor Creative site or Help.
Is Creative going to do something with this silly small limit's This is NOT a discussion about who needs more than 53 playlists.
Please help! I really need more playlists. Even if firmware allowed searching by: Artist - Album (not either Artist or Album or Artist->Album) it wold be only partial advantage to the playlist limit problem.

whatchusay wrote:
Is there a way to search: Music Library > Genres > {specific genre} >(open) artist ?
Right now I only see ..(open) >sort by track or sort by album but I would love to see the artist I have listed under a genre (I don't have a good enough memory to remember which album is by which artist)
This is a longstanding wishlist item unfortunately. I'm not sure if this was changed on recent players (I'll have to check my Zen).
vdv: From a practical POV I can't see Creative changing the playlist limit. You're the only person I've seen ask for it. It would be great if they could accomodate it, but I just can't see it happening unfortunately, so I would try and find some other method if you can. If you really are dead set on Artist - Album browsing, why not change all the Artist or Album tags to have this data. I'm guessing a mass tagger could do this pretty quickly.

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drmtb97 wrote:
My girlfriend recently got a 40gb Zen Xtra and when she tries to put a new song in an already existing playlist using mediasource it replaces the whole playlist, or if she drags and drops 4-5 songs it replaces the whole playlist, and, when she disconnects the player from the computer and looks in the playlist there is only one song there, even though all of the songs she dragged and dropped appeared in the list in mediasource....
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