PCC vs Production Order Based Costing

Hi,
Please reply back difference between PCC and Production Order Based Costing.
Thanks in advance.
Regards,
Sameer

Hi,
PCC is product cost collector which is used in mostly REM process.
1. Here you have to creat the product cost collector mean sthe cost is based on period, when u create PCC you are creating the priliminary cost means the quanity strucure costing considering BOM , activity prize and the cost from costing sheet i.e admin cost, etc .
2. In product cost collector the the cost of document posted in backflush is posted periodiclly. For that u have to run standard cost run i. CK11N and CK24. monthly.
3. but in Production oredr or Process order thre is no PCC instaed of PCC the cost is settle with the settlement profile defined in OPL8 i.e order type dependent parameter SPRO.
4. Each prd ord is REL,CNF and TECO when the status is TECO means the logistic point of view the order is complet now ready to costing .
5 Then FI consultant settle this order
6. here order based costing no period based costing
hope u r prob solve..
Siddhesh

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Material cost charge to Production Order from Cost Center / Work Center.

In Production Order Environment, is it possible that goods are issued from Storage location to Cost Center / Work Center, and in turn charged to Production Orders.
Scenario. Transformer Manufacturing.
Production Order size : 100 Units
Steel (Kgs) per Transformer : 3 Kgs
Total Steel required for Production Order: 300 Kgs (100x3)
In the process of manufacturing of a Transformer Steel or Core winding is the first process step.
Even though the Steel required for above said Production Order is 300 Kgs, the minimum issuable lot size from stores is 2000 Kgs.
Is it possible in SAP ECC 6.0 that the Steel of 2000 Kgs is issued to a Cost Center / Work Center, and later charged to production order based on actual Consumption in the said Cost Center / Work Center.
Regards, Replies and Sugestions shall be appreciated
Madhu

Thank you for the reply,
However, the scenario that i had in mind was a bit different from what you had conceptualized.
Scenario - These transformers are basically for loading on to Inverters & UPS, The max weight of the transformer range from 15-30 Kgs. and they dont have an external casing of steel as seen on Indian Electricity Board transformers. Multiple production orders are processed at a single time in the Plant as per Customer specifications.
The general process followed for manufacture is as follows:
1. Core Winding u2013 This process takes place in the core winding department. Steel reels are loaded on to Winders and individual cores of approx 5 u2013 30 Cm Diameter are produced. (Multiple reels of Steel are stacked one on top of the other onto a pallet.) Usually issue of steel from stores happens pallet wise. The pallets of steel generally weigh in excess of 2 tons.
In the present situation (Non SAP Environment) the entire pallet of Steel is issued to the Core winding department and later the Output is charged to multiple Production Orders, based on the records of the Core winding dept. Since in general the steel content in the FG ranges from 3- 25 Kgs multiple Production Orders can be catered to from one Pallet of Steel.
2. Core Laithing. The wound cores are laithed so as to make the sides smooth.
3. Core Annealing u2013 Heat treatment process.
4. Core Insulation. u2013 Insulation of the annealed cores with insulating material.
5. Primary Winding. u2013 Copper is wound as per the BOM Specification. The issue like that of Steel also arises in the Copper winding process. Here also the Cooper comes in Spools which far exceed the requirement for any Production Order. The minimum issueable lot for Copper from Stores is one Spool. The current practice followed is that the Cooper is taken in the name of the Copper winding department and later charged to individual Production Orders.
6. Primary Soldering.
7. Mid Insulation.
8. Secondary Winding
9. Secondary Soldering
10. Shielding
11. Final Insulation u2013 Same issue with insulation too, since the insulating material comes in rolls.
12. Testing.
13. Potting & Drilling - Process of pouring a chemical compound in the center of the transformer, which helps the transformer to later be loaded on an Inverter. The same issue with like of Steel, Copper & Insulation arises here too, since the chemical compound comes in big containers capable of meeting production requirement for a week.
14. Packing
15. Transfer to FG Inventory.
One of the suggestions was to issue the entire 2000 Kgs to the Production Order and then return 1700 kgs after completion of the Production Order based on actual usage. However, in my opinion this option might not be practicable because, assuming that I get another / multiple Production orders in between the issue of 2000 Kgs and return of 1700 Kgs, issue to the new Production order will not be possible if the stock in stores was only 2000 Kgs initially. In case assuming that the material is available in stores for the next production order, the situation could worsen in case of receipt of multiple production orders.
Hope, I have explained the scenario & issue being faced.
Regards
Madhu

CN41N and S_ALR_87013533 report not showing Production order planned cost

Hi Experts,
I am having issue to get total planned production order values in my CN41N or S_ALR_87013533 cost report. I am facing 2 issues :
1. CN41N repoet does not show individual material cost planned in BOM.
2. CN41N report and S_ALR87013533 report does not show total value but only picking fixed value.
Example :
1. CN41N report :
Above screenshot shows no values in Project plan cost & Order cost column but it shows total cost as a lumpsum on top for project. I need to know how can i get material cost populated here for Project Valuated stock material?
2. S_ALR_87013533
This report shows Total Cost of BOM as 1 line under Material Procurement activity similar to CN41N report. Also Order value is picking from Fixed cost from planned order and total cost is added on top. How can i get Total cost picked from production order?
Is there any Setting in PS config which allow me to pick the detail production order plan cost in both report under planned cost.
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Ashish

Hi Ashish,
I doubt whether Item level reporting in S_ALR... (hierarchy report) is possible or not because I haven't seen item level cost in them only the lump-sum cost because they are summarized at cost object level itself. Navigation path are there which we use to go into details of cost.
Please check the following links:
https://scn.sap.com/thread/1743833
(In the above thread,focus on Mr. Mohamed Rafi comment.)
http://scn.sap.com/thread/3530080
http://scn.sap.com/thread/1311820
Order cost plan in report CN41N
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Saurabh

Bapi or FM or tabel or any standard transaction code for Production order linking to get child production orders based on parent production order

Dear Guru's,
we have a requirement i.e. user can convert planned orders in to production orders (CO41) based on those production orders we can get Route card( Z Smart form) presently we are using manual input for that Route card. recently we got requirement for this i.e. make to automatic generation of route card for this requirement we need to get the list of child's production orders based on parent production order
so as per my requirement i need to get all child part numbers production orders based on parent production order number and quantity i tried in MD4C and CO46 but those transactions codes are picking multiple lines also so for this requirement please give your valuable suggestions
Regards,
Venkat

Dear Friends,
Thanks for your reply,
My business process is MTS purely strategy 10, for route card all components with production orders we can give input as like bellow these production orders are converted from planned orders,between few components are don't have production orders those are F-30 materials,because of this reason i need link for production order to child components orders
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IND1
A1CE2003520103-010
55685814
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IND1
IND1
A1CE2003520103-015
55685813
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IND1
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55685812
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IND1
IND1
A1CE2003520103-025
55685811
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Material cost in production order plan cost

Dear all,
-we are in sales order cost object with non-valuated stock...
-we have created two production orders from MRP run. First one is for semi finished material and second one is for finished material.
Issue-1
Both production orders not showing material cost in production order plan cost...
Issue-2
When i consumed raw material against semi-finished material production order (261-E), system not gnerated any document and material cost not updated either in production order or sales order...
where should i do changes in configuration to get updated material cost in the production order...
Best regards
Kishore

Hi
Issue 1 : Check Whether Standard cost is present for header material of prod order, and under control tab of order costing variant for plan is present.
Issue 2 : Use 261 instead 261E.
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Sales Order Based Costing-Repetative Manufacturing

HI,
Can anyboydy send me the documents on Sales Order Based Costing & Repetative Manufacturng (confiq or any relevant material) to my id [email protected]
Thanks in Advance
Sunil.

HI,
Can anyboydy send me the documents on Sales Order Based Costing & Repetative Manufacturng (confiq or any relevant material) to my id [email protected]
Thanks in Advance
Sunil.

How to see cost componentwise production order actual cost-not planned cost

Hi,
Can anybody tell me how to see cost componentwise production order actual cost ?
Thanks,
Bijay

Hi,
CO03->Goto-> costs-> Anlysis
or use the std. report KKBC_ORD
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Segregation of Production orders based on System status

Hi Experts,
I need your inputs to our requirement, We are sending Production orders to third party tool (TPT)for detailed scheduling, so Production Orders based on
Order status need to be classified and send in such way to TPT.
Requirement is
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or need to pass this list of Production orders to JEST table and do some coding to get this classification. But using JEST table its difficult for coding to get the requirement satisfied, because for one Production order there will be many order status as REL PCNF PDLV GMPSPRCMACM etc.
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Naga

Hello Naga
You should use BAPI BAPI_PRODORD_GET_LIST to get a list of production orders, instead of MD_Stockrequirement_List.
Alternatively, you can use BAPI_PRODORDCONF_GETDETAIL to get the details of a production order.
BR
Caetano

Standard table for production order settlement cost

Hello,
Is there any standard table available which carries the production order settlement cost?

Dear,
Once you do Production order settlement using T.Code KO88.
You will find all relevant tables once RKACSHOW is executed for the corresponding object .
Try the table is COEP
Thanks,
MS

In which table production order planned cost and actual cost i can see?

Dear PP Guru,s,
from which table i can see productuion order planned and actaul cost. i checked following tables AUFK, AFVC, AFVV, CAUFV, AFRU, AFKO, AFPO. but i did not found planned cost and actual cost field. is there any other way to get this data with respect production order?
Regards,
sree

Dear,
Planned and actual costs of prod order from COEP, COSS, COSP S027 tables
production order shows the planned cost based on the quantity structure.
Please refer my reply in this thread for details,
Re: Actual Halb Material Cost
Regards,
R.Brahmankar

Production order variance cost

Hi,
I know that Plan Cost is caculated based on value and
seconds which is maintained in KP26 transaction. Workcenter
attached to Routing.
I want to know that how actual cost or calculated ?
In the prodcution order CO03> Cost > Analyses, Plan
cost is 30 and actual cost is 70 and variance updated as 40.
The reason i heard that for higher actual cost captured in
production, while doing confirmation they booked more time.
But i have seen transaction co15, there is no such field in
that.
Could anybody explain where i can see how much time
booked for that operation in production order ?
Regards,
RRS.

Hi,
Also check with COOIS report.
List = confirmation
Profile = Std profile
Inside the report select the Field like "Activity to confirm", "unit /activity"
This will give u operation wise , Confirmed actual activity value for Order
Pradeep

Sales order based costing

1) How to caluculate the cost based on the sales order.cost Estimate with quantity strcture is possible or not
PLEASE LET me know the status.
with Regards
Srinivas

Hi,
In Product Cost by Sales Order, costs are normally collected on sales order items.
The quantity structure term is relevant to Production Orders which carries BOM and routing and your scenario is make-to-order.
For each sales order item, you can plan the cost of goods manufactured or the cost of goods sold. The costing results can be used as a basis for pricing in the SD component.
To be able to plan costs for sales orders, you must do the following:
Define a costing variant and a valuation variant.
Define a costing sheet for the calculation of overhead rates.
Make sure that the MRP group in the MRP 1 view of the material master record specifies a requirements class that has account assignment category "E" (make-to-order) and that allows costing.
In the requirements class, use the "Costing" indicator to specify that costing is allowed or updated and whether the planned costs are updated.
In the requirements class, you also specify whether your sales order stock should be valuated or nonvaluated with the "Valuation" indicator.
Results analysis at the end of the period is only required if you are using a nonvaluated sales order stock.
To carry out results analysis, you must do the following:
Define a results analysis key
The results analysis key controls whether an object is selected for results analysis or WIP calculation. The results analysis key is defined as a separate default value for each requirements class.
Define a results analysis version
The results analysis version determines which of the results analysis versions are relevant to settlement. This is particularly important in multiple valuation.
Choose a valuation method
The valuation method controls which formula is used to calculate the results analysis data.
To be able to settle the results analysis data to Profitability Analysis, you must define a PA transfer structure that assigns the results analysis data to value fields.
To be able to settle the capitalized costs and the revenue in excess of billings and the reserves to Financial Accounting, you must:
Set the indicator "Financial Accounting" in the results analysis version
Define posting rules
The posting rules assign the results analysis cost elements under which the results analysis data is updated on the order to G/L accounts (such as the finished products inventory or the reserves for unrealized costs (balance sheet) and the inventory change account or the expense account for reserves (P+L)).
Regards,
Sadashivan

Production order - maintance cost

Hello Experts
I want to allocate some % of my maintenance cost to my production order , those maintenance costs I am capturing thought my PM order , so how can I allocate my cost from pm order to Production order
Is It any standard procedure is there, can anyone share with me your knowledge
Regards
Sri

Hi
Settle the maint orders to a cost center...
Use a costing sheet in your Valuation variant / Prod orders
Calculate and Maintain an overhead rate based on machine hrs in KZM2
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Production Orders, Varience & costing

I have many customer that are using SAP production orders with either moving average of FIFO and are surprised by the varience that are created by SAP production orders. This is not typical of a 'actual' costing system.
When a production order is closed, it will create a Journal entry to a varience account is created for the cost of the material that is in excess of the standard BOM. Obviously, this can only be calculated when the M.O. is closed.
This method does not support an 'actual' cost company - this is a varience posting.
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The variance would only be for items that are no longer in inventory.

Hi,
What I meant is,
Planned Start time : 8 AM on 10th Dec,2008
Planned End time : 2PM on the 10th Dec,2008
Actual Start time : 8 AM on 10th Dec,2008
Actual End time : 6 PM on 10th Dec,2008
Here how will we accout for the 4 hrs.? Client donot want this(due to reasons best known to the client, though this is not advisable).
Best regards,
K.Kumar.

Capacity planning and schedulng production order based on availabe capacity

Hi Gurus,
I am trying to use capacity planning, when the production order is created it takes the order start date as the requirement date. Then when i do he capaity check it says capaity not available. After finite scheduling again it proposes to shift operations by certain days.
I need the capity to be check in MRP and the palled orders to have start dates based on aviable capity, currenty all the palled orders are starting on the requirement date irresptive of avaiabe capaity. I tried using finite scheduling option in MD02 still it does not take in to account exsting production orders for giving dates of the planned orders.
Regards
Abhi

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Proposals
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