Removed features in PSE 13 Organizer

Hi,
yesterday I upgraded PSE 12 to PSE 13.
Until now I used smart tagging and the extended search in the organizer to automatically separate pictures with persons from pictures containing nature or buildings only.
So I wonder why Adobe has removed these features in PSE 13?
But you can still use "AutoAnalyzer", but I do not see what it is good for. It seems that it doesn´t do anything?
So is there a way to use the PSE 13 organizer as i did with PSE 12? Or do I have to use the "old" organizer therefore?
Nachricht geändert durch Ulrich Kolanowski

Thanks for your reply. So I am one of "the few".
But I can´t understand why Adobe didn´t give the customers the possibility to just switch on or off this features.
After converting to PSE 13 all smart tags I had in PSE 12 are gone!
And I am still wondering about the "AutoAnalyzer" feature in PSE13. What can it be used for?

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ARJNA wrote:
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On Tue, 12 Jun 2012 19:36:04 -0600 photodrawken <[email protected]>
writes:
Re: In PSE 10 Organizer I cannot download the entire thing - just one
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