Split valuation - COPA impact

What is the COPA impact on "Split Valuation" - will key figures and derivation rules have to be changed ? how difficult

Nothing needs to be changed in COPA.

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Split Valuation Material Cost Estimate into COPA

Hi all,
Is there any way how we can transfer the split valuation material cost estimate into COPA?
I checked the actual line items, there is no "valuation type / batch" characteristics there.
Is this the main cause?
Please kindly suggest on the best way to solve this issue
Thank you very much
Regards, Erwin

Hi, Ajay
Does this mean that, even though i manage to create the valuation type as characteristic in COPA, i won't be able to get 2 different cost estimate based on valuation type into COPA?
Hm, then, are there any solutions which can be done to solve this issue?
The client needs a COPA report which can show the breakdown of the sold materials cost estimates
As usual, thank you very much for your help
Regards, Erwin

High volume of batches with Split valuation - impact on system performance

Hi!
I have a client that is intending to load a new material type from their legacy system which will be automatically batch managed with split valuation. So, Valuation category will be 'x' and the valuation type will also be the batch number as automatically created on GR.
The concern of the client is the impact on system performance. Having up to 80,000 batches per material master record (so, 80,000 valuation types will be mainatined with a unique price in the Accounting 1 tab of the MMR) and overall around 1 million batches a year. I'm not aware of any system performance issues around this myself but there seems to be anecdotal evidence that SAP has advised against using this functionality with high volumes of batches.
Could you please let me know of any potential problems I might encounter, having 1 million batches with split valuation may cause? Logically, this would increase to tens of millions of batches over time until archived off via SARA.
Many thanks!
Anthony

I currently have about 1.5 million batches with split valuation in my system (but it is not the X split), and we archive yearly.
having many batches for one material ( lets say 1000) causes dramatic performace issues during automatic batch determination.
it took about 5 minutes until a batch was returned into a delivery. if the user then wants a different batch and has to carry out batch determination again, then he just works for 10 to 15 minutes on one delivery.
This is mainly caused by the storage location segment of the batches. if one batch gets movedd within a plant thru 3 different locations, then the batch has 3 records in table MCHB. But SAP has a report to reorganize the MCHB table that have zero stock.
The X split has more effect, it is not only the batch table that makes issues in this case. With the x-split SAP adds an MBEW record (material master valuation view) for each new batch.
However, if the design is made to get a certain functionality (here valution at batch level), then you have to get a proper hardware in place that can give you the performance that is needed.

Cost component split in copa

Hi,
I am looking cost component split in copa document ,
Price for FERT(FG) materil valuation will at manufactured plant level is Standard price(S) and Depo level Moving avg price(V) i am doing standard cost estimate
for that i have done ..setting.
1) cost component structure ( Raw material, reprocess cost, additive cost, and overheads)
2)Valuation Strategy (maintained with Point of valuation 01,02,03,04)
3)Costing key (Y01)
4)Assign Costing Keys to Material Types ( ROH and FERT, PV=01,02,03,04.)
5)Assign Value Fields , ( Operating concern & Value fields are Raw material, reprocess cost, additive cost, and overheads)
6)I have written copa report
Cost breakup i am geting when i maintained standard price of the material, but
when i maintain price indicator V (MAP) stock value will be different it depends on Goods movement, i am getting price converted standard price.
Is their any setting missing to fulfill the same ( meet the requirement if goods movement taken in consideration)
I am not getting proper cost split in COPA report.
Please help me i am stuckup.
Thanks in Advance
Regards.
Vinu
Edited by: vinutha1010 on Jun 17, 2010 7:08 PM

HI PietStrydom ,
thanks for your valuable replay.
could u tel me in detail..how can i achive in this transaction ..ie somthig like SCE access .
I have taken parameater in t.code KEPC (source = POV, Record type, material type, plant, Target = costing key, plant, type of error,
Regards.
Vinu,

How to estimate two products price in split Valuation

hello, everyone,
Our factory have Two equipments , one is a new equipment A , the other is an old equipment B,
they all produce the prodcut W , but the old equipment B consume electricity ,warm water and Raw material is much more than the new equipment A. So the cost price of product W is different when they were produced by equipment B and equipment A.
the Finacial Department and Sales Department want to know different cost price of product W via different equipments in the end of every month. Now we use two different material NO to deal with it(actually it is one product ) ,but this method take a lot trouble to stock, because one product quantities were seperated by different material NO in Storage location.
According to this requirement, we activate the split valation, but the customizing of split valuation just supply one field for val.type in-house prod, at the same time , the t-code CK11N screen has not the field vauation type. if we don't estimate the material cost price by CK11N, when we create sales billing ,the system can not post COPA document and give a error that is :“Valuation with material cost estimate: error with product "1180119998"
   may you have a good method to deal with this type of business or you ever met this kind of business . may you share it , I appreciate you for your help !!!
    Davis
    Best&Regard.

Hi
You can change the same through MR21
regards
Sanil

Converting to Split Valuation

Hello to All:
We are converting several existing materials to split valuation. According to SAP documentation, to continue to use the same SAP material ID one cannot have any open SD documents, i.e. Releases, Orders, Deliveries at the time the conversion is executed. For us, this would mean we would have to deal with many thousand of open documents first. The other option is to retire the original SAP material IDs and move the inventory from the old to the new material using the appropriate valuation type.
My question to you is: Has anyone had experience with converting an existing material ID to split valuation and what if any are the pitfalls to avoid?
Thank you
Bob

Hi Bob,
We converted some spare parts to split val. We had open POs and inventory on the parts. In general it was easier to start over with a new material number and then transfer the inventory, etc.
Something else to consider -- in addition to open docs and current inventory, it may even be necessary to have no stock as of previous month end! You might check this out in your dev system.
Other things to think about are the impact on the physical inventory process, how to segregate/label the parts in your warehouse, how warehouse personnel will control the entry of this new field (it's another place to drop the ball), any custom report changes that will be required (e.g., valuation and inventory reports).
Bottom line -- it's going to hurt, it's just a question of what kind of pain you're willing to endure. Good luck.
Den

MR21 price changes for split valuation materials

HI
I have changed the material price for the material whcih are maintained with split valuation ie. in MR21 i could able to change the price for valuation types only.. i'm not able to change the main material price , its asking to enter the val type?? how to change the the price ?
Ex . Mat code : MAT 123, having val types as IN and OV, which has price control of S, here i have changed the price for the val types IN & OV, but i'm not able to change the price for the main material MAT123, which has price control V?? how to change it

hi Samuel,
We have a similar case, need your help;
Case: Split valuation is activated but parent has price control "V" and child i.e. diff valuation types have "S". We want to make std prices of all valuation types "0". It is done but the parent still shows value in MAP.
a. How do we make MAP of parent as "0" (price control "V")
b. Will it impact and how e.g. MB5L
c. Is it ok if we ignore the valuation of parent
d. All valuation types under parent are made "0"
Thx
Bhushan

Advantages and disadvantages of Activating Split Valuation

Hi,
Can anyone tell me about the advantages and disadvantages of activating split valuation and how it impact in CO module.

hi,
You need to do a split valuation for a material when you come across any of the below mentioned scenario
1> when there is a difference in country of origin for the material
2> when there are different grades of quality( 1st quality / 2nd quality ) for the same material
3> when the material has to be differentiated between in-house production and external procurement
4> to differentiate between the different deliveries......
when you don activate split valuation ,,
under any case the material will be priced with the same standard price even if its an external procurement at a higher cost.. the values are fetched automatically from the material master,.

MR21 for split valuation & price control "V"

hi all,
Case: Split valuation is activated but parent has price control "V" and child i.e. diff valuation types have "S". We want to make std prices of all valuation types "0". It is done but the parent still shows value in MAP.
a. How do we make MAP of parent as "0" (price control "V"), will it allow?
b. Will it impact and how e.g. MB5L
c. Is it ok if we ignore the valuation of parent
d. All valuation types under parent are made "0"
Thx
Bhushan

Hi
The price control at the plant level will always be V,where at the valuation type level either V or S can be maintianed.It is not recommeneded to ignore the valuation class at the plalnt level in case of split valuation because if you are going for costing run then this needs to be maintained.becoz cost of a material procured needs to be determined at plant level
Regards
Sandeep
Edited by: sandeep13 on Feb 8, 2010 12:49 PM

Split valuation - Header Material - Price det. 3 - Matl. ledger active

Hi,
We have split valuation along with Material ledger and Actual costing active.
My client wants to keep price determination 3 / V for Header Material as it defaults 3 / S while creating subbordinate materials i.e., by valuation types.
Per SAP, the requirement is Price determination 2 and Price control is V for Header Material.
My client questions, what is wrong in keeping 3 in Header level?
Do you have any input for this? as I have only answer, as it's the standard configuration and impact unknown.
Ashok

Hi Ashok ,
The materials with split valuation are there in the MM valuation tables MBEW, EBEW, QBEW with the field 'valuation type' BWTAR filled . The header segment (with field valuation type blank) is only for intermal use of the system .
For such materials with valuation type blank (the header segment of material with split valuation) in Material Ledger only the table CKMLPR contains information, the rest of the tables are empty .
The header segment has always price control V. However, the price of the header segment is NOT a moving average price. It is the weighted average price of all valuation types.
Therefore with a Split valuation scenario the materials are recorded in the system with the field BWTAR not blank and with its own price control independently of the header segment
Hence , i think its immaterial of what ever Price Determination you put in Material Master for header material and hence SAP has recommended "2" for the same . Having Price Determination "3" will not have any impact.. i believe...
Regards
Sarada
Edited by: Sarada Sankar Sil on Nov 16, 2010 9:48 AM

More than one standard price in case of split valuated Material

Hi Experts,
I have came across one requirement , where one plant is doing trading as well manufacturing of the same material.
So this material is Split valuated . In case of own production , no problem in costing i have made the production valuation type as default in OMWB so price is getting release based on Qty strcuture.
For the purchased material , i need to read the cost component of the producing plant ( consequently in COPA the break of the cost of the material) and there will be certain overhead cost that needs to be added to come to the total cost of the purchased inventory . The cost of the purchased inventory will be used for inventory valuation.
So my question is :
Is it possible to do the costing run based on two method - in case of valuation type -produced based on own Qty structure and valuation type Purchased -read the cost of the selling plant + additive cost ( for own cost) and relased to Material.
or any other better approach ?
Thanks

Yes, you can achieve that with mixed costing, by maintaining a procurement alternative for each of the valuation types.
Take a look at these links for all the details:
[SAP help for mixed costing|http://help.sap.com/saphelp_erp60_sp/helpdata/en/34/f4af26be4411d1898f0000e8214595/frameset.htm]
[Re: costing with split valuation]
best regards,
Udo

Split valuation Cost estimate

What is the impact when we execute cost estimate using Split valuation materials ?

Std cost estiatme would impact the Split valuation which would have the material with "S" Standard price to update the price when you release std cost estimate.

Split valuation-Preliminary Cost estimate

Hello,
Is it possible to create a Prelimnary cost estimate for split valuated material.Relevant Proc alternaitves crtd
Pls help

Hi,
In the case of split valuation only header and not the valuation
type is costed.
If one material has split valuation, standard price will be released
only for header segment (valution type blank). You have the possibility
to release standard price for in-house production segment, if you set
the 'Default'-flag in the customizing transaction for splitted val.
(OMWC) for the val. category 'X'.
Please check the note 552486 that contains information about
this context. (Question 10).
Alternatively you might created mixed cost estimate to release prices
for each procurement alternative that is associated with an val. type.
The only way to mark and release a standard costing per valuation type
is by using the functionality of mixed costing. That means that you
have to define a quantity structure category and define a
procurement alternative based on a valuation type of your material.
Afterwards you have define a mixing ratio for your material and the
defined quantity structure category.
Based on this mastr data (procurement alternatives and mixing ratios)
it is possible to carry out a mixed costing, one part of this
mixed costing should be a cost estimate based on your valuation type.
If you mark and release the mixed cost estimate the system will
set the standard price on valuation type level (prerequisite:
you have the define the procurement alternative based on the
valuation level)
For more details please have a look in the R/3 documentation for
mixed costing or contact your consultant.
Please refer to NOTE 552486 (FAQ):
"Question 10: In the case of a split valuation, why can the prices only
be updated in the internal segment?
Answer:In the initial standard SAP System, only the header segment is
calculated and the price is updated only here.However, if the "Valuation
type 'in-house production' mandatory" flag is set for the categories in
Customizing (Transaction OMWC), it is also possible to update the price
in an internal segment.For external segments (procured externally) this
does not make any sense in general.However, mixed costings can also be created and updated for several segments via procurement alternatives."
Setting this flag will take impact on materials WITH split valuation
in the future. New prices will be released for the in-house segment
in addition to header segment in TA CK24.
Also check the online documentation related to this topic
http://help.sap.com/erp2005_ehp_03/helpdata/
EN/34/f4af26be4411d1898f0000e8214595/frameset.htm
I hope the above information is of use to you.
MLM

Split valuation: how to close an annual PO

Dear Experts,
We need to change a non-split valuated material to split valuated mode by using the Valuation category 'X'. I have done the required config. and cleared all of the stocks and reservations. Now we have one "annual" purchase order left (line per month) that is partly closed and partly open. I flagged all of the items as completely delivered and invoiced but it still comes to the material Display errors log. Do I need to throw all of the items to the carbage bin or even archive the PO before I can change the Valuation category in the material master?
Thanks in advance!

Hi
If the PO is partially open ensure that the PO order qty is changed to Delivered and invoiced qty and then flag the delivery completed and final invoice indicator and then flag the item for deletion.
Now you try to activate the valuation category.
Usually if we have such requiremnt of activating the material for split valution, always you create a new material and falg the old material for deletion. This will be helpful in the reporting parts also.
You donot have to face all these problems in that case.
Thanks & Regards
Kishore

Split valuation with batch management and project stock

Dear Gurus,
I need to combine two following requirements:
1. split valuation with batch management (valuation type = batch number)
2. project stock
These two functionalities work fine separately but not together.
I receipt PO for material with spiit valuation on a batch level into a project stock. Posting is OK and material document (MSEG table) seems to be OK (batch number, valuation type and project stock are in this table). The problem appears when I want to display material in this valuation type (MM03) or batch (MSC3n). They don't exist!!! Short investigation showed that during goods receipt table MBEW (valuated stock) was not updated with this valuation type.
But If PO is receipt into normal stock first and then posted into project stock everything is OK.
Have you had or heart about such issue? I would appreciate any sugestion.
Thsnks in advance.
Marcin Bernat

Hi,
As you already know ,u are using project stock and doing goods receipt against project, stock table QBEW will be updated and not MBEW. MBEW only updates in case of plant stock valuation. If u receive any goods against project stock it does not contribute to plant stock. Irrespective whether your material is managed in split valuation or not, If it is received against project stock it only updates QBEW. There is no need to update MBEW, if u r using split valuation in project. QBEW also have valuation type as another level like MBEW. If u want to see material price for project stock, it can be seen in QBEW -valuation type and not in mm03.
As u r receiving goods against project stock this is d only reason QBEW is updated and not MBEW.
QBEW will store all information like MBEW for batch number, valuation type and project stock assignment.
Hope it answers your question.
Deepak.

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