200MHz K7N2G FSB Request Petition...

Hi all,
i have recently bought an MSI K7N2G, which with the unlocked 1700TBred, on a multi of 9.5 sits at 200MHz CAS2 with my Corsair Twinx PC3200.
This is lovely - but i would love to push my memory even higher - in sync with the CPU.
I request that this post be forwarded to whoever it may concern - and humbly request they include in their BIOS the option to increase the FSB synchronously with CPU to above 200MHz.
All other nforce2 boards (namely Epox) are achieving such speeds - so we know the chipset is up to it - and i like MSIs products - this is the third MSI board i have owned - all have been solid boards.
It should be mentioned also , that due to my K7N2G-L only having passive northbridge cooling i needed to add extra cooling to the3 board - but it is 100% stable at 200MHz FSB.
So, if you agree put your name below - and lets see if MSI listen to their customers!
MSI, I'd like a BIOS release which enables me to have an FSB >200MHz.
Signed,
D Cooke 10/03/03

i refuse to believe it is not possible - unless MSI strayed so far away from the nforce2 design as to render it less functional?
If MSI hadnt cut corners and equipped the K7N2G-L with a northbridge fan there would be fewer instability/RMA'd boards as a result of this BIOS update request - or even with standard BIOS issues. I have had to add extra cooling to my northbridge to acheive 200MHz with 100% stability.
Every other serious nforce2 board had 200MHz as an FSB option when it launched. They NOW have at least 220MHz, some even as high as 250MHz.
I have owned 3 different nforce2 boards - all perform equally well - very little in it. People will buy other makers when they know they:
A) MSI dont listen to their customers (We're only requesting something which is available on most all competitiors.
B) MSI cant make an enthusiasts board.
C) MSI make boards less functional by straying away from reference designs (If that is why you cant acheive >200MHz FSB?
If someone from MSI is/has read this please drop a line to say so - at least we'll know we are reaching the people who matter.
Thanking You
Pug

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