Account Determination - Delivery Order Confirmation Process

Hi Experts,
How the Account determination will happen in the Delivery Order Confirmation process. Is the any Account determination analysis tool available to check the same ?
Regards
Prasath

Hi prashanth
Revenue account determination is the place where SD- FI integration takes place
What ever we do in the revenue account determination (t.code VKOA)Generally for every condition type in our pricing procedure we assign account keys wheather it is freight , tax etc
Now in revenue account determination , to those account keys we assign G/L accounts.
Now when you do billing , some condition types will come in the billing document . and once you save the billing document those amounts will be flowing to the respective account key G/L accounts
to FI people
say for example if for MWST account key is MWS , in billing if this MWST condition type comes and once you save the billing document then the tax amount will be flowing to the MWS G/L account .and FI people will look into it
Once you save the billing document automatically a accounting document and controlling document gets generated
Now after Post Goods Issue , we save the delivery document here the SD - MM integration takes place
Once you do PGI , automatically the G/L accounts get updated and the valuation level comes down. So after doing PGI system generated material document and controlling document.
Regards
Srinath

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Account posting keys involves for process of third party order

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THIRD PARTY SCENARIO
In third-party order processing, your company does not deliver the items requested by a customer. Instead, you pass the order along to a third-party vendor who then ships the goods directly to the customer and bills you. A sales order may consist partly or wholly of third-party items. Occasionally, you may need to let a vendor deliver items you would normally deliver yourself.
Process Flow
The processing of third-party orders is controlled via material types. Material types define whether a material is produced only internally, can be ordered only from third-party vendors, or whether both are possible. For example, a material that is defined as a trading good can only be ordered from a third-party vendor. However, if you manufacture your own finished products, you may also want, from time to time, to be able to order the same type of product from other vendors.
Processing Third-Party Orders in Sales
Third-party items can be created automatically by the system, depending on how your system is set. However, you can also change a standard item to a third-party item during sales processing manually.
Automatic third-party order processing
If a material is always delivered from one or more third-party vendors, you can specify in the material master that the material is a third-party item. During subsequent sales order processing, the system automatically determines the appropriate item category for a third-party item: TAS. To specify a material as a third-party item, enter BANS in the Item category group field in the Sales 2 screen of the material master record.
Manual third-party order processing
In the case of a material that you normally deliver yourself but occasionally need to order from a third-party vendor, you can overwrite the item category during sales order processing. For a material that you normally deliver yourself, you specify the item category group NORM in the material master.
If, as an exception, you use a third-party material, change the entry TAN to TAS in the ItCa field when processing the sales document. The item is then processed as third-party item.
If address data for the ship-to party is changed in the sales order in third-party business transactions, the changed data will automatically be passed on to purchase requisition and also to the purchase order ,if one already exists. In the purchase order, you can display the address data for the ship-to party in the attributes for the item.
You can only change the address data for the ship-to party in the sales order for third-party business transactions, and not in the purchase order.
Processing Third-Party Orders in Purchasing
When you save a sales order that contains one or more third-party items, the system automatically creates a purchase requisition in Purchasing. Each third-party item in a sales order automatically generates a corresponding purchase requisition item. During creation of the requisition, the system automatically determines a vendor for each requisition item. If a sales order item has more than one schedule line, the system creates a purchase requisition item for each schedule line.
Purchase orders are created from purchase requisitions in the usual way. For more information about creating purchase orders, see the Purchasing documentation. During creation of the purchase order, the system automatically copies the delivery address of your customer from the corresponding sales order. In a sales order, you can enter purchase order texts for each third-party item. When you create the corresponding purchase order, the texts are automatically copied into the purchase order. The number of the purchase order appears in the document flow information of the sales order.
All changes made in the purchase order are automatically made in the sales order as well. For example, if the vendor confirms quantities and delivery dates different from those you request and enters them in the purchase order, the revised data is automatically copied into the sales order
You process third-party items by creating a normal sales order. In overview for the order, you can then overwrite the default item category (TAN in the standard system) with the special item category for third-party items: TAS
Billing Third-Party Orders
If relevance for billing indicator for the item category has been set to B (relevant for order-related billing on the basis of the order quantity) in Customizing, the system includes the order in the billing due list immediately. If, however, the indicator has been set to F (relevant to order-related billing on the basis of the invoice quantity), the system does not include the order in the billing due list until an invoice from the vendor has been received and processed by the purchasing department. In the standard system, item category TAS (third-party order processing) has been given billing-relevance indicator F.
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FOR YOUR PROCESS Individual Purchase Orders WELL GIVE THE RIGHT SOLUTION
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Process Flow
During sales order entry, the system automatically creates a purchase requisition item. The purchasing department creates a purchase order based on the requisition and the vendor ships the goods directly to you (unlike third party order processing, where the vendor ships directly to your customer). You then ship the goods to your customer. While the goods are part of your inventory, you manage them as part of the sales order stock. Sales order stock consists of stock that is assigned to specific sales orders and cannot be used for other purposes.
Goods receipt will be posted when ever the vendor ships the goods to our customer.
We will do this transaction in SAP using MIGO.
Invoice receipt is done when the Vendor sends us the invoice.. ( I.e Billing ).
It can be done using MIRO.
THe above two steps are standard and manual. There are many other ways that the actual process can happen. If the client follows EDI standards then the Goods receipt and Invoice receipt can be done through IDOCs automatically.
Process Flow for 3rd Party Sales
Customize the third party sales in summary:
Prerequisites for 3rd party sales,
Purchasing org,
purchasing group,
assign the Purchase org to company code
assign Purchase org to plant,
should not maintain the stock in material, it should be trading goods,
1. Create Vendor XK01
2. Create Material Material Type as "Trading Goods". Item category group as "BANS".
3. Assign Item Category TAS to Order type that you are going to use.
4. A sale order is created and when saved a PR is generated at the background
5. With reference to SO a PO is created (ME21N). The company raises PO to the vendor.
6. Vendor delivers the goods and raises bill to company. MM receives the invoice MIRO
7. Goods receipt MIGO
8. Goods issue
9. The item cat TAS or Schedule line cat CS is not relevant for delivery which is evident from the config and, therefore, there is no delivery process attached in the whole process of Third party sales.
10. Billing *--
SD - 3rd party sales order Create Sales Order
VA01
Order Type
Sales org, distr chnl, div
Enter
Sold to
PO #
Material
Quantity
Enter
Save
SD - 3rd party sales order View the PR that is created with a third party sales order
VA01
Order Number
Goto Item Overview
Item ->Schedule Item
SD - 3rd party sales order View the PR that is created
ME52N
Key in the PR number
Save
SD - 3rd party sales order Assign the PR to the vendor and create PO
ME57
Key in the PR number
Toggle the "Assigned Purchase Requisition"
Execute
Check the box next to the material
Assign Automatically button
Click on "Assignments" button
Click on "Process assignment"
The "Process Assignment Create PO" box , enter
Drag the PR and drop in the shopping basket
Save
SD - 3rd party sales order Receive Goods
MIGO_GR
PO Number
DN Number
Batch tab , click on classification
Serial Numbers tab
Date of Production
Flag Item OK
Check, just in case
Post
Save
SD - 3rd party sales order Create Invoice
MIRO
Invoice Date
Look for the PO , state the vendor and the Material
Check the box
Click on "Copy"
Purchase Order Number (bottom half of the screen)
Amount
State the baseline date
Simulate & Post
Invoice Number
*Invoice blocked due to date variance
SD - 3rd party sales order Create a delivery order
VL01N
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SD - 3rd party sales order Create a billing document
VF01
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Enter
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Third party order processing is as follows:
Assume three companies X, Y and Z
X - The company,
y - The customer
Z - Vendor
When ever X gets a PO from Y to supply some goods, X has an option of either manufacturing those goods or procuring those goods.
If he is procuring the goods, there are two methods that are generally followed:
Method 1) After receiving the PO from Y, X creates a sales order against Y.
Now at the same time he also creates a PO to a vendor Z to produce the goods
Z produces the goods and supplies to X
X receives the goods from Z
Then X delivers the same goods to Y.
After that X invoices Y and Z invoices X.
Note : Here there is no direct/ Indirect relation between Z and Y.
This process is known as Trading Process. and the Material here is created with Material type HAWA.
The other method is a Third party order processing method:
Here the glaring difference is that instead of Z supplying the material to X and X in turn supplying the same material to Y.
X authorizes Z to supply the material to Y on his behalf and notify him once the delivery is complete.
Now Z supplies the material to Y and acknowledges the same to X.
Z will send a copy of delivery acknowledgement and invoice to X.
After receiving the delivery confirmation and invoice from Z, X has to verify the invoice and this process is known as invoice verification and is done in SAP through Tcode MIRO.
The next step for X is to create an invoice and submit to Y
Only after the invoice verification document is posted then only X can create an invoice for Y.
This is the business flow that is followed for third party order configuration.
There are few steps that have to be configured to enable the system to function as mentioned above.
Step1)
If you are always following a third party process for a material then you have to create the material using item category group BANS.
The procurement type should be marked as External procurement (F) in MRP 2 view of the material master record.
if you are not always allowing third party order processing then u can create a material master record with item category group as NORM and the procurement type should be marked as ( X) meaning both types of procurement ( in house manufacturing and external procurement).
Step 2)
the item category in the order should be manually changed as TAS.
For that you need to configure the item category determination
Order type + item cat Group + Usage + High level = Item cat + Manual item cat
OR + NORM + + = TAN + TAS
OR + BANS + + = TAS
Step 3)
make sure that during the item category configuration for TAS you need to mark relevant for billing indicator as F
step 4)
The schedule line category for this type should be CS.
make sure that you mark subsequent type as NB - purchase requisition in this schedule line category as this will trigger the purchase requisition order immediately after the creation of the sales order and the PO to vendor is created against this purchase requisition.
Award if Helpful,
Regards
Priyanka.P

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Hi,
Dear.. It is very basics of accounting. Unless there is a give and take complete process in sales process, the cycle is not completed. So there is no need of accounting entry.
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The case is , User make mistake on putting large volume into material quantity within process order, However, this process order has been released , confirmed and delivery (DLV) status.
Since this large vquantity material will make the Cost extra larger than normal.
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After commuicated with User again, user has been done as below.
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I have some confusing now..
1) is that once Process order confirmation cancelled, is that there Must no Actual cost in Accounting view?
2) If there is part of physical product produced, but the Process order has been cancelled afterward. How the cost calcuated? is that include the cost or exclude the cost?
Many Thanks for your help!
Best Regards
Marco

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We have a process orders with phaes 20,40 and 60. Order qty = 100 pc
1. We would like to have sequenstial confirmations from 20->40->60.
2. When we confirmation phase 40 , quantity should not exceed the confirmed quantity of phase 20. ( Example , if 20 is confirmed for , say , 10 pc , then user trying to confirm 11pc in phase 40 , should result in an error )
3.When we enter confirmations in COR6N , we would like to have the previous confirmed quantity to appear as default and if user changes to a higer quantity than the previous confirmation quantity , it should give an error message.
( for example , here when user confirms phase 20 - order qty less previously confirmed qty = 100-10=90 pc should come as default ; for phase 40 , default confirmation qty should appear as 10 pc and user trying to change it to 11pc, shoudl result in an error)
In order confirmation parameters , we have chosen " error when operation sequences are not adhereed to ".
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How can we achieve this modifitcation?
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HI,
In the confirmation parameters OPK4(Customizing for Shop Floor Control, choose Operations -Confirmation -Define Confirmation Parameters) you set the Propose indicator in the quantities area, to stipulate that quantities should be proposed when confirmations are entered under "Operation Individual entry using Indv. scren" tab Page. and test
If this is not working out
Check
Control key for operations (in Customizing for Shop Floor Control by choosing Master Data -Routing Data - Define Control Key), you stipulate whether an operation can or must be confirmed (Confirmations key).
Checking the Quantity to be Confirmed (Confirmations key).
If the operation sequence is checked for confirmations, then the following quantity check takes place: If you want to enter a confirmation in which the sum of the yield, rework quantity and scrap is larger than the yield of the predecessor, then the system issues an appropriate message (for example, an error message). The predecessor is determined exactly as described in the graphic.
Irrespective of whether the operation sequence is adhered to, the quantity is checked against the quantity of the predecessor operation (= expected quantity) and a message is issued (the category is set in Customizing). The following cases can occur:
The confirmed quantity is larger than the expected quantity.
You are entering a final confirmation and the confirmed quantity is smaller than the expected quantity.
The message category determines your next entry option:
After acknowledging a warning, you can continue entering.
In the case of an error message, the system terminates the input dialog.

Account Determination Procedure in Sales Order

Hi All,
I have a problem regarding account determination procedure in sales order.
When I create a new sales document, and go to menu Environment --> Analysis --> Account Determination, the information about the procedure is blank.
For your information, I already assign this sales document type to a billing type.
This billing type also already has an account determination procedure, which is KOFI00.
The G/L Account in VKOA also already been set up for the combination of Condition Type - Chart of Acct - Sales Org - Account Assignment Category in Customer and Material - Account Key.
But every time I create a new sales order, I cannot get the account determination procedure.
Anyone can please help me to solve this problem?
Thank you in advance

Hi Surya,
Have you assigned Billing type For Ex: F2 or F1 to respective Sales Order Type in Sales Document Type controls VOV8.
Assign these F2 against Delivery Related billing and F1 is for Order Related billing.
Assign KOFI0000 to respective Billing Types F2 and F1.
And check, hope issue may resolve.
Revert if u have any query.
Regards
Durga sana.

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