Account Determination in Subcontracting order

Below lists accounting entries for subcontracting order for Goods Receipt in our system.
Debit     Subcontract cost
Credit     GR/IR
Debit     Finished Goods stock
Credit     COGS_Subcontract
Debit     COGS_Raw material consumption
Credit     Raw Material Stock
I want to split 'Subcontract cost' by intercom vendor & external vendor, such as Subcontract cost_Intercom or Subcontract cost_External.
But at OBYC -> 'FRL', there is only Valuation mod & Valuation class but no column of General modification.
Do anyone have suggestion? Or any user exit support this issue?
Br.
Karen

Hi Paul,
Thanks for your help.
I just test by using new transaction key, but it does not work.
Do you know what's wrong of my setting?
Br
Karen
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Batch determination in Subcontracting order

Hi,
Can any one of you explain me the steps for doing batch determination for subcontracting orders. i am facing the same issue, but i dont know what steps to follow.
our scenario is: we do a GR against a Sub contracted PO using 101 mvt type and when i am trying to post the document, it's asking me to enter the batch for few components which are maintained as vendor consigned stock and in batches.
is it possible to automate the process? can any body explain how to setup the customization for batch determination?
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Follow the below steps.
01. For movement type 543 "O" assign your search procedure T code : OMCG
02. Maintain conditions record or strategy record.
A1) Normaly we use batch determination at delivery level, because at the time of order material may or may not be created.for this material should be configured with batch and batch determination should be checked in sales views of material.
A2) Batch Determination during order Creation.
For this you need to maintain a Classes d for you Material. Depending on the Manufacturing process you can define the characteristics for your material.
Ex: Purity for Medicines, Resistance for Electric Items.
You need to create a class (You might have to create a new class type) which incorporates the characteristic.
First Create the Characteristic Using Ct04 and then using Cl02 create the Class including this characteristic.
Then in your material master Classification View Enter this class.
Then Create a Batch for the particular plant and Stor Loc using MSC1N.Give the value of the characteristics in this batch.
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My question is whether account determination happens at Sales Order level and if yes what is the purpose. Since I saw account determination procedure only to be assigned at billing document type but not in sales document type.

Hi,
Dear.. It is very basics of accounting. Unless there is a give and take complete process in sales process, the cycle is not completed. So there is no need of accounting entry.
Billing is the final documentation with regards to accounts to register who has sold what to whom (Debits and credits). In practicality unless the transaction is complete, there is no accounting entry, when you raise the sale order, it does not affect your accounts, unless you completely process through delivery and billing.
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Does anybody know how (and WHY) SAP makes (or doesn't make) account determination of material movements from or to Sales Order Stock???
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There are also NO Accounting Documents when inventory differences occur (701E or 702E)...
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Hi Suresh,
Asssign one Account modifier For example ZBR in OBYC for GBB key
with valuation class and your default account
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Your valuation modifier as ZBR in that a/c assignment details
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Diwakar
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Iam facing problem while doing MIGO against production order in a make to order scenario. The whole scenario is -
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I have a doubt. I´ve customized a batch determination strategy for Inventory Management, for movement type 543.
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Hello Alejandro,
Thanks for the further clarification!
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.- If you post the Goods Receipt for the Subcontracting purchase order and you expand the components, then, the batch field will be opened for input and the user manually will need to start the process pressing the icon for the batch determination (or also the one for the stock determination).
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Hi Gauravjit ,
check these steps :
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MM subcontracting Account determination

Hi All,
Any one knows MM subcontracting Account determination in OBYC?
any help is appreciated..
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Hi,
Hi,
For Account Determination 5 major characteru2019s are as follow:
1.Chart of Account,
2.Valuation Class,
3.Transaction Event Key,
4.Valuation Grouping Code,
5.Account Grouping Code/Account Modifier.
Configuration of Automatic Account Determination with T.Code are as follow:
1.OMSK: valuation Class with Account category reference,
2.OMWM: Active Valuation Grouping Code,
3.OMWN: Active Movement type with G/L account,
4.OMWD: Active Valuation Area,
5.OMWB: Active Chart of account,Valuation Grouping Code,Account Grouping Code,Valuation Class and G/L acocounts
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Click TE key and enter Chart of account and then save the Roles 1st for
1.Debit/Credit
2.General modification
3.Valuation Modif
4.Vakuation class
And then enter respective critetia for that TE key and save.
If assignment(Chart of account,Valuation Grouping Code,Account Grouping Code,Valuation Class and G/L acocounts
are correct and u would not face any problems in G/GI/IV.
The TE keys are:
Expense/revenue from consumption of consignment material (AKO)
This transaction is used in Inventory Management in the case of
withdrawals from consignment stock or when consignment stock is
transferred to own stock if the material is subject to standard
price control and the consignment price differs from the standard
price.
u2022 Expenditure/income from transfer posting (AUM)
This transaction is used for transfer postings from one material to
another if the complete value of the issuing material cannot be
posted to the value of the receiving material. This applies both to
materials with standard price control and to materials with moving
average price control. Price differences can arise for materials
with moving average price if stock levels are negative and the stock
value becomes unrealistic as a result of the posting. Transaction
AUM can be used irrespective of whether the transfer posting
involves a transfer between plants. The expenditure/income is added
to the receiving material.
u2022 Provisions for subsequent (end-of-period rebate) settlement (BO1)
If you use the "subsequent settlement" function with regard to
conditions (e.g. for period-end volume-based rebates), provisions
for accrued income are set up when goods receipts are recorded
against purchase orders if this is defined for the condition type.
u2022 Income from subsequent settlement (BO2)
The rebate income generated in the course of "subsequent settlement"
(end-of-period rebate settlement) is posted via this transaction.
u2022 Income from subsequent settlement after actual settlement (BO3)
If a goods receipt occurs after settlement accounting has been
effected for a rebate arrangement, no further provisions for accrued
rebate income can be managed by the "subsequent settlement"
facility. No postings should be made to the account normally used
for such provisions. As an alternative, you can use this transaction
to post provisions for accrued rebate income to a separate account
in cases such as the one described.
u2022 Change in stock (BSV)
Changes in stocks are posted in Inventory Management at the time
goods receipts are recorded or subsequent adjustments made with
regard to subcontract orders.
If the account assigned here is defined as a cost element, you must
specify a preliminary account assignment for the account in the
table of automatic account assignment specification (Customizing for
Controlling) in order to be able to post goods receipts against
subcontract orders. In the standard system, cost center SC-1 is
defined for this purpose.
Stock posting (BSX)
This transaction is used for all postings to stock accounts. Such
postings are effected, for example:
In inventory management in the case of goods receipts to own
stock and goods issues from own stock
In invoice verification, if price differences occur in
connection with incoming invoices for materials valuated at
moving average price and there is adequate stock coverage
In order settlement, if the order is assigned to a material with
moving average price and the actual costs at the time of
settlement vary from the actual costs at the time of goods
receipt
Because this transaction is dependent on the valuation class, it is
possible to manage materials with different valuation classes in
separate stock accounts.
Caution :
Take care to ensure that:
A stock account is not used for any transaction other than BSX
Postings are not made to the account manually
The account is not changed in the productive system before all
stock has been booked out of it
Otherwise differences would arise between the total stock value of
the material master records and the balance on the stock account.
Revaluation of "other" consumptions (COC)
This transaction/event key is only relevant to Brazil. It is used if
a revaluation report is used for company codes in Brazil.
The revaluation report uses the actual prices determined by the
material ledger/actual costing to:
Revaluate costs on the basis of actual prices
Post the price differences arising from "other" consumptions
(e.g. consumption to cost center) to a collective account
This transaction/event key is needed to post the price differences.
The account specified here is posted with the price differences for
"other" consumptions.
o documentation currently available.
Small differences, Materials Management (DIF)
This transaction is used in Invoice Verification if you define a
tolerance for minor differences and the balance of an invoice does
not exceed the tolerance.
Purchase account(EIN), purchase offsetting account (EKG), freight
purchase account (FRE)
These transactions are used only if Purchase Account Management is
active in the company code.
Freight clearing (FR1), provision for freight charges (FR2), customs
duty clearing (FR3), provision for customs duty (FR4)
These transactions are used to post delivery costs (incidental
procurement costs) in the case of goods receipts against purchase
orders and incoming invoices. Which transaction is used for which
delivery costs depends on the condition types defined in the
purchase order.
You can also enter your own transactions for delivery costs in
condition types.
External service (FRL)
The transaction is used for goods and invoice receipts in connection
with subcontract orders.
If the account assigned here is defined as a cost element, you must
specify a preliminary account assignment for the account in the
table of automatic account assignment specification (Customizing for
Controlling) in order to be able to post goods receipts against
subcontract orders. In the standard system, cost center SC-1 is
defined for this purpose.
External service, delivery costs (FRN)
This transaction is used for delivery costs (incidental costs of
procurement) in connection with subcontract orders.
If the account assigned here is defined as a cost element, you must
Offsetting entry for stock posting (GBB)
Offsetting entries for stock postings are used in Inventory
Management. They are dependent on the account grouping to which each
movement type is assigned. The following account groupings are
defined in the standard system:
AUA: for order settlement
AUF: for goods receipts for orders (without account
assignment)
and for order settlement if AUA is not maintained
AUI: Subsequent adjustment of actual price from cost center
directly
to material (with account assignment)
BSA: for initial entry of stock balances
INV: for expenditure/income from inventory differences
VAX: for goods issues for sales orders without
account assignment object (the account is not a cost
element)
VAY: for goods issues for sales orders with
account assignment object (account is a cost element)
VBO: for consumption from stock of material provided to
vendor
VBR: for internal goods issues (for example, for cost
center)
VKA: for sales order account assignment
(for example, for individual purchase order)
VKP: for project account assignment (for example, for
individual PO)
VNG: for scrapping/destruction
VQP: for sample withdrawals without account assignment
VQY: for sample withdrawals with account assignment
ZOB: for goods receipts without purchase orders (mvt type
501)
ZOF: for goods receipts without production orders
(mvt types 521 and 531)
You can also define your own account groupings. If you intend to
post goods issues for cost centers (mvt type 201) and goods issues
for orders (mvt type 261) to separate consumption accounts, you can
assign the account grouping ZZZ to movement type 201 and account
grouping YYY to movement type 261.
Caution
If you use goods receipts without a purchase order in your system
(movement type 501), you have to check to which accounts the account
groupings are assigned ZOB
If you expect invoices for the goods receipts, and these invoices
can only be posted in Accounting, you can enter a clearing account
(similar to a GR/IR clearing account though without open item
management), which is cleared in Accounting when you post the vendor
invoice.
Note that the goods movement is valuated with the valuation price of
the material if no external amount has been entered.
As no account assignment has been entered in the standard system,
the assigned account is not defined as a cost element. If you assign
a cost element, you have to enter an account assignment via the
field selection or maintain an automatic account assignment for the
cost element.
Purchase order with account assignment (KBS)
You cannot assign this transaction/event key to an account. It means
that the account assignment is adopted from the purchase order and
is used for the purpose of determining the posting keys for the
goods receipt.
Exchange rate differences in the case of open items (KDM)
Exchange rate differences in the case of open items arise when an
invoice relating to a purchase order is posted with a different
exchange rate to that of the goods receipt and the material cannot
be debited or credited due to standard price control or stock
undercoverage/shortage.
Differences due to exchange rate rounding, Materials Management
(KDR)
An exchange rate rounding difference can arise in the case of an
invoice made out in a foreign currency. If a difference arises when
the posting lines are translated into local currency (as a result of
rounding), the system automatically generates a posting line for
this rounding difference.
Consignment liabilities (KON)
Consignment liabilities arise in the case of withdrawals from
consignment stock or from a pipeline or when consignment stock is
transferred to own stock.
Depending on the settings for the posting rules for the
transaction/event key KON, it is possible to work with or without
account modification. If you work with account modification, the
following modifications are available in the standard system:
None for consignment liabilities
PIP for pipeline liabilities
Offsetting entry for price differences in cost object hierarchies
(KTR)
The contra entry for price difference postings (transaction PRK)
arising through settlement via material account determination is
carried out with transaction KTR.
Price differences (PRD)
Price differences arise for materials valuated at standard price in
the case of all movements and invoices with a value that differs
from the standard price. Examples: goods receipts against purchase
orders (if the PO price differs from the standard pricedardpreis),
goods issues in respect of which an external amount is entered,
invoices (if the invoice price differs from the PO price and the
standard price).
Price differences can also arise in the case of materials with
moving average price if there is not enough stock to cover the
invoiced quantity. In the case of goods movements in the negative
range, the moving average price is not changed. Instead, any price
differences arising are posted to a price difference account.
Depending on the settings for the posting rules for
transaction/event key PRD, it is possible to work with or without
account modification. If you use account modification, the following
modifications are available in the standard system:
None for goods and invoice receipts against purchase orders
PRF for goods receipts against production orders and
order settlement
PRA for goods issues and other movements
PRU for transfer postings (price differences in the case
of external amounts)
Provision for delivery costs (RUE)
Provisions are created for accrued delivery costs if a condition
type for provisions is entered in the purchase order. They must be
cleared manually at the time of invoice verification.
Taxes in case of transfer posting GI/GR (TXO)
This transaction/event key is only relevant to Brazil (nota fiscal).
Revenue/expense from revaluation (UMB)
This transaction/event key is used both in Inventory Management and
in Invoice Verification if the standard price of a material has been
changed and a movement or an invoice is posted to the previous
period (at the previous price).
Unplanned delivery costs (UPF)
Unplanned delivery costs are delivery costs (incidental procurement
costs) that were not planned in a purchase order (e.g. freight,
customs duty). In the SAP posting transaction in Logistics Invoice
Verification, instead of distributing these unplanned delivery costs
among all invoice items as hitherto, you have the option of posting
them to a special account. A separate tax code can be used for this
account.
Input tax, Purchasing (VST)
Transaction/event key for tax account determination within the
"subsequent settlement" facility for debit-side settlement types.
The key is needed in the settlement schema for tax conditions.
Goods issue, revaluation (inflation) (WGI)
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have to be revaluated following the determination of a new market
price within the framework of inflation handling.
Goods receipt, revaluation (inflation) (WGR)
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postings have to be revaluated following the determination of a new
market price within the framework of inflation handling. This
transaction is used for the receiving plant, whereas transaction WGI
(goods receipt, revaluation (inflation)) is used for the plant at
which the goods are issued.
GR/IR clearing (WRX)
Postings to the GR/IR clearing account occur in the case of goods
and invoice receipts against purchase orders. For more on the GR/IR
clearing account, refer to the SAP Library (documentation MM
Material Valuation).
Caution
You must set the Balances in local currency only indicator for the
GR/IR clearing account to enable the open items to be cleared. For
more on this topic, see the field documentation.
Thanks,
Raja

Account determination error in Subcontract PO-MIGO.?

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Dear all,
Please help. Trying to release a billing document to accounting. Getting the error:
Document 90000004 saved (error in account determination)
Message no. VF051
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Like
Table
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Desc
Screen
Status
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WBS Element
KKNT
Based your requirement , say, 01
VBAP
PS_PSP_PNR
WBS Element
PKNT
Based your requirement , say, 06
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Hi Gurus,
i am a little bit confused and need help!
When I am creating a sales order (free of charge) and assign a WBS Element i get the message in the imcompletion routine that the account for type KOFK is missing.
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Hi Yoganand,
sorry for writting so late - i was in vacation the last 2 weeks
I had a lot of discussion about this with an FI/CO Consultant - first he also didn't know, but after some more discussion he could remember from a former project that this is standard when there is a planing relevanz for the wbs-element.
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I have a problem regarding account determination procedure in sales order.
When I create a new sales document, and go to menu Environment --> Analysis --> Account Determination, the information about the procedure is blank.
For your information, I already assign this sales document type to a billing type.
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Anyone can please help me to solve this problem?
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Hi Surya,
Have you assigned Billing type For Ex: F2 or F1 to respective Sales Order Type in Sales Document Type controls VOV8.
Assign these F2 against Delivery Related billing and F1 is for Order Related billing.
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Revert if u have any query.
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Hi there,
in a sales order processing (VA02/VA03) I'd like to know which accounts will be determined prior to invoincing it.
I find the "account determination analysis" tool through the menù path: "Environment" -> "Analysis" -> "Account Determination" (FCODE = 'KTPR'), but it shows an empty screen
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This tool shows an empty screen even if the order is invoiced, or not.
So I'm asking: which is the meaning of this tool inside sales order processing ?
Hope I've explained correctly my problem.
Thanks in advance.
Andrea

Hi Nagaraj,
the sales order amount is > 0, but the account determination analysis tool still show me an empty screen
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