Account determination analysis in sales order

Hi there,
in a sales order processing (VA02/VA03) I'd like to know which accounts will be determined prior to invoincing it.
I find the "account determination analysis" tool through the menù path: "Environment" -> "Analysis" -> "Account Determination" (FCODE = 'KTPR'), but it shows an empty screen
The same tool shows the desired data during an invoice processing (VF02/VF03).
How can do to see the account determination analysis in sales order processing, and not in invoice processing ?
This tool shows an empty screen even if the order is invoiced, or not.
So I'm asking: which is the meaning of this tool inside sales order processing ?
Hope I've explained correctly my problem.
Thanks in advance.
Andrea

Hi Nagaraj,
the sales order amount is > 0, but the account determination analysis tool still show me an empty screen
It seems this tool runs only into invoice processing.
I try to follow the ABAP debugger and at a certain point it uses the "account determination procedure" (KOFI00), that in the sales order is missing ... maybe this is the problem ...
Best regards
Andrea

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I have a problem regarding account determination procedure in sales order.
When I create a new sales document, and go to menu Environment --> Analysis --> Account Determination, the information about the procedure is blank.
For your information, I already assign this sales document type to a billing type.
This billing type also already has an account determination procedure, which is KOFI00.
The G/L Account in VKOA also already been set up for the combination of Condition Type - Chart of Acct - Sales Org - Account Assignment Category in Customer and Material - Account Key.
But every time I create a new sales order, I cannot get the account determination procedure.
Anyone can please help me to solve this problem?
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Hi Surya,
Have you assigned Billing type For Ex: F2 or F1 to respective Sales Order Type in Sales Document Type controls VOV8.
Assign these F2 against Delivery Related billing and F1 is for Order Related billing.
Assign KOFI0000 to respective Billing Types F2 and F1.
And check, hope issue may resolve.
Revert if u have any query.
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I have Customer Service Module with Resource Related Billing for services attached with SD.
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Hi Prakash,
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We have done it in our company and it is working fine. Basically what we have done is to create new tables instead of modifying the standard ones. We have adjusted the access sequence in such a way that some of our custom tables are accessed first before the standard SAP tables (C001 to C005).
I found a similar requirement on SCN. This might help.
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Account determination error in sales order

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Please help. Trying to release a billing document to accounting. Getting the error:
Document 90000004 saved (error in account determination)
Message no. VF051
While analysing: going to Environment - Accnt determination analysis - Revenue accounts :- no condition types are coming under the procedure KOFI000. Checked settings in vkoa. All G/L accounts are mapped. There are invoices of the same document type, with the same condition types in production with correct account determination.
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I hope you have incompletion log (OVA2) maintain for WBS element in your sales order.
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I am doing VF02. I gave billing document number. But its telling, error in account determination (Message No. VF051).
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Account determinatin analysis in Sales Order

Dear Team,
Created 2 sales orders,
for one sales order - KOFI00 Account determination folder is visible when you check in environment - analysis - account determination, but for other sales order - KOFI00 is not there. Tried to check the difference in both orders: Same sales area and customer but different materials and plants. Let me know any other possibility to get account determination KOFI00 done for other order too.
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Hi,
Checked the material account assignment group for both sales orders - field is maintained as NIL. Even then for one Sales order, KOFI00 is determined at Sales order level, but for other not. Also the resp billing type which is in the sales orders are correctly assigned to KOFI00.
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Sales Order - Account Determination Analysis

Dear Friends,
In sales order creation we have a provision to see the account determination analysis may be even before invoice is created.
The path for this is: In th menu bar above:: Environment - Analysis - Account Determination
But in my case when I click on it, nothing appears than blank in the analysis screen
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Just to be sure : Did you check that VBRP-AUGRU_AUFT is indeed filled in the invoice ?
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Is revenue account detemination possible at sales order level ? When I created the sales order and checked account detrmination analysis, most of the screen is blank. Is it expected to happen at sales order level ?

Hi,
Account determination should take place at billing doucmnet level.
Sales order doesn't give you the idea of how much did you sell to the customer.actual sales comes into picture when yu receive the money from customer after the billing is done.
Accounts will be hit at the time of PGI but those are controlled from the configuration of valuation class which you put in your material master.
Reward if it helps.
Regards
Karan

Cost Analysis by Sale Order

Hello,
I'm seeking to enable in BI a Cost Analysis Scenario with repect to the Sales Orders. That is, something similar to the analysis you can easily perform in the R/3 area Accounting -> Controlling -> Product Cost Controlling -> Product Cost by Sales Order.
For instance in standard report KKBC_KUN, you can choose a sales order number and get all the cost elements related to that sales order, with the corresponding costs.
I have examined the following objects provided by the BW's Business Content:
- InfoCube 0PC_C01: it contains only the costs related to production orders, and not the costs associated with sales orders.
- InfoSource 0CO_OM_CCA_9: it seems interesting, in fact it delivers some header and line item data of the Controlling Object Document. Unfortunately it doesn't deliver the crucial characteristics Controlling Object and Controlling Object Type, which I definitly need for enabling my analysis scenario!!
(By the way, are these 2 characteristics delivered by the BC? There exists a 0COSTOBJ characteristic, but it's not used by any object in the flow afterwards. Moreover, I can't find a standard DataSource in R/3 which I can use to load either its attributes or its texts, and see what data enter it..)
Business Content for Product Cost by Sales Order), but none could help me.
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I eventually found the following SAP Note. No BCT for this analysis scenario....
Note 584791 - BW-BCT-CO: Costs not extracted on sales orders
Symptom
In R/3, costs are posted directly to sales orders. The costs have to be analyzed in the BW system. In the standard system, however, this data is not extracted into the BW system.
Other terms
0CO_OM_OPA_1; 0CO_OM_OPA_6
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1. There are currently no DataSources for costs on sales orders in the standard BW Business Content. Unfortunately, there are currently no resources scheduled for a new development in this area either.
2. Therefore, the DataSources and the Business Content must be created in the customer project within the framework of consulting as a customer solution concerning the generic extraction options of the BW Service APIs or function modules you have programmed yourself for extracting data.
3. Technical background information about costs on sales orders:
The transaction data is available in the following R/3 tables
COSS and COSP - Totals records or COEP - Line items.
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Spliting up the G/L account in time of Sales Order creation .

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Shyamal.

Hiya,
Don't have the system before me, but I think the approx path is:
IMG --> Controlling --> Profitability Analysis --> Master Data --> Valuation --> Define and Assign Val Strategies (I think it is KE4U).
Look up the Val Strategy assignments and look for anything with Record Type "A".
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IMG --> controlling --> Profitability Analysis --> Actual Postings --> Active transfer of Sales Order Data
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If these are present, they must have been put there on purpose. You should NOT JUST GO AHEAD AND DELETE them. Check why these are there and then check why these are flowing into your COPA report.
Normally COPA reports are defined by Record Type. If you used Record Type "F" in your reports, you should always get the proper PL report. However, if you assigned a combination of "F" and "A", you will find that your Order data is flowing into COPA along with the Billing data. So the third check point should be your report definition. Call up the form for the report you are running using transaction KE35 (Change Mode). Check the definition of the Sales quantity, etc. and look for any flows with Record Type "A". Since the form may be used by others, it is not a good idea to delete a form as it is. Copy the form into another and change the new one. Delete the "A" assignments and see if you get the correct result.
Broadly these are the areas you need to check. But COPA is vast and there could be other areas as well (e.g., KEDR Derivations, or some custom programs (SMOD)) which can trigger flows to COPA Value Fields.
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Issue with G/L Account Determimation in the sales order.

Hi All,
We have an issue while saving a sales order. The document is complete and while saving it says G/L no. missing . It allows me to save but Revenue account is not determined.
Have defined new account determination table with sales area/ sales doc type/Ord.reason/AcctAss for customer/Acc *** of material/Account key. and assigned G/L account also.
Placed it in Access. Seq. and assigned to cond. type and then in the acct. determination procedure.
But there is another table Sales org./Distr. chl/AcctAssgGr/AcctAsgnmt/Acct key which is being accessed instead of the one we ahve created.
The pricing procedure and doc types are also different.
Please advice.
Basha

Hi Friend,
In the account determination you have to ensure correct combination had mentioned
And also make sure the accounting keys are entered in the pricing procedure V/08 for your pricing procedure for each condition type.
You can directly those settings in OV35 Against your pricing procedure.
please go through this link
http://www.sap-hefte.de/download/dateien/1159/110_leseprobe.pdf
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santosh
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Account determination for cash sale

Hi, sapcons
please can any body can help me by sending step by step notes on account determination for cash sales and rush orders
my mail id is [email protected]
thanks in advance
regards
srinivas

Hi Srinivas,
Account Determination for Cash Sale and Rush Order will be done in VKOA Transaction.
Please find below the Process of Cash Sale and Rush Order
CASH SALE:
Cash sales is an order type for when the customer orders, picks up and pays for the goods immediately. The delivery is processed as soon as the order has been entered. A cash invoice can be printed immediately from the order and billing is related to the order. Receivables do not occur for the customer as they do for rush or standard orders, because the invoice amount is posted directly to a cash account.
Process Flow
In the standard system, sales document type BV is saved for cash sales with immediate delivery type BV.
When the sales employee creates a cash sale, the system automatically proposes the current date as the date for delivery and billing. Once the order has been posted, a delivery with type BV is created immediately in the background and the system prints a document that is used as an invoice for the customer.
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Do the item category determination for cash sale for which u configured. And at the time of cash sale u will get the invoice. For that u use the output type Rd03.
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In a rush order transaction, the customer picks up the goods or you deliver the goods on the same day as the order is placed. In the standard system, when you save this sales document type, a delivery is automatically created and billing is related to the delivery.
Process Flow
In the standard system, sales document type SO is saved for rush orders with immediate delivery type LF. Once the goods have been removed from storage, the goods are picked, and goods issue is posted.
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I have looked into the analysis and asked him to update the condition by clicking on that.also, I found that the condition record is having a proper valid date. now the user would update only after knowing the exact reason why it did not flow into the sales order,he knows he has to update the condition but would not do so till he knows the right reason why condition is not determined in the sales order. now this is the situation.
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Problems with account determination analysis/revenue accounts

Dear forum,
I am creating a billing document from a service contract.
When I create my billing document I receive an error message saying "Account determination error".
I am checking my account determination analysis for revenue accounts in the billing document (Environment->Acct.Determination analysis->Revenue accounts).
For standard condition type DIFF I receive a message 120 saying "G/L account 0000578109 determined from Account determination type KOFK" which is fine.
But I dont get any message 215 (which should be returned under the row of message 120), and it should say "G/L account in document: 0000578109".
Does anyone know why I dont receive the message 215 and why we receive an error message saying "Account determination error", even though we have succesful hit in the access sequence (access no 40 Sales org/Account key)?
This is how to access sequence log looks like in revenue accounts:
10     123     Access KOFK not carried out (initialized field)
20     121     No G/L account found in Account determination type KOFK
30     123     Access KOFK not carried out (initialized field)
40     120     G/L account 0000578109 determined from Account determination type KOFK
For access 20 (Sales org/Account assignment group/Account key) , we have specified an account assignment group on the Sold-to but not set up any account assignment for this combination. Is that what is wrong? The system expects an account for access 20 since it found the combination of Sales org/Account assignment group?
Thanks!
Edited by: Ola Törnblom on Dec 22, 2008 3:17 PM

Hi,
VKOA - check. Both KOFK and KOFI using same conditions with same G/L account.
FS00 - check. Account exist in company code.
This is the log in accounts revenue when everything is OK (EXAMPLE 1):
Condition      Message     Description
DIFF     120     G/L account 0000578109 determined from Account determination type KOFI
DIFF     215     G/L account in document: 0000578109
Access     Message     Description
10     123     Access KOFI not carried out (initialized field)
20     123     Access KOFI not carried out (initialized field)
30     123     Access KOFI not carried out (initialized field)
40     120     G/L account 0000578109 determined from Account determination type KOFI
And this is the log now, when we have the error of acct determination (EXAMPLE 2):
Condition Message     Description
DIFF     120     G/L account 0000578109 determined from Account determination type KOFK
Access     Message     Description
10     123     Access KOFK not carried out (initialized field)
20     121     No G/L account found in Account determination type KOFK
30     123     Access KOFK not carried out (initialized field)
40     120     G/L account 0000578109 determined from Account determination type KOFK
For the customer we have assigned an account assignement group and it finds the account key via condition type DIFF and guess that is why we get a hit on access 20 in the example above (Message 121). But there is no G/L account entered for the combination of sales org./account assignment group/account key.
Instead, we have chosen to have the G/L account determination based on sales org/account key only, as in access 40. And it finds the G/L account 0000578109 for access 40.
But what I dont understand is why we dont get any message 215 as in EXAMPLE 1.
And we get the error message "Account determination error" in EXAMPLE 2.
Thanks,
Ola
Edited by: Ola Törnblom on Dec 22, 2008 4:58 PM

Results Analysis on Sales Orders

Hi Fellows,
When i am running the results analysis for Sales orders using KKAK transaction , I do not wish to see the WIP items with 0 Values.So i selected the option " Hide Orders with 0 values in Results List ".
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" Note: In some cases individual objects may still appear in the list when both the column "Reserves for unrealized costs" (reserve for unrealized costs + reserve for complaints/commissions) and the column "Reserves for imminent loss" are a sum of multiple value fields and these value fields are checked individually for zero value ".
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Where can i see the Value fields associated with this Results Analysis and where can i see if the Value fields are assigned a value of zero.
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Srik

Hi,
Check whether Note 501915 - Creation, cancellation, and usage of reserves would help.
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