Account Key PRD and DIF

Hi
Can anybody let me know the difference between Account Key DIF and PRD.
Both are descrbed as Price Difference but what is the exact scenario in which they are hit.
Regards

Hi
In OMR6.....For your company code if you have activated the Tolerance key BD....ie) Form Small diff. Automatically.....then during LIV, any small diff is there for your invoice it will go in small diff. price variance Account...The transaction Event key for that is "DIF"......
For eg) For your Co.Code, you have maintained BD Upper limit Tolerance limit      as 2 USDs... in OMR6
Now you have to do LIV for your PO which having value of 1000USD
Now even if you do LIV for 1002USD, The system will allow you to post the invoice and the Small Diff. Amount of 2USD, Will go to small diff account....for that the Transaction Event Key is DIF
If you post the Invoice for the same for 1003USD...means the system will not allow you to post and will give Error message..
PRD....Generally used Transaction Event Key When you get any Price Diff Acc. During GR or IR..
For. eg) For materail "M"...You are maintaining Price Control "S" in material master and the price is say 100USD.
Now you are making PO for 10 Ea. @ 110USD and while you do GR for that PO..The accounting documents will be generated as
Stock Acc. of Material "M"   is Debited              ie) 1000USD +
G/R & I/R Clearing Acc. is Credited                    ie) 1100USD --
The Difference is Price Diff ACC. is Debited         ie) 100USD +
Here the transaction Event key for Stock Acc. is BSX, and for G/R&I/R Clearing Acc. is WRX and for Price Diff Acc. is PRD..
Hope you will understand
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Regards
S.Baskaran

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