Actual activity allocation / revaluation
Hi All,
My company is using SAP ISH (healthcare) in order to book Services to patient cases. We have linked the Services to some activity types which are generated by the Performing Unit in ISH. The Performing unit is linked to a cost centre in CO where the planned Activity rate has been set up (KP26). The patient case is linked 1:1 with an internal order in CO which receives the activity posting.
My company would like to ensure that all of the costs relevant to these activities are allocated out of the cost centre on to the receiving internal orders at month end. I have not worked in CO for a few years but I believe that this will involve a couple of steps in the month end process.
1 Re-calculate the actual activity prices
2 Revalue the actual postings
Each cost centre generates 2 or more activities which need to be valued. Example below
Performing unit THEATRE1 - Operating theatre, performs operations on 2 patient cases
CASE1 - Knee replacement
Activity type - Consumables = 100 units @ £2ea = £200
Drugs = 10 units @ £30ea = £300
CASE2 - Hip Replacement
Activity type - Consumables = 200 units @ £2ea = £400
Drugs = 50 units @ £30ea = £1500
Total credit to the THEATRE1 cost centre
Consumables - £600
Drugs - £1800
At month end the actual costs posted to the cost centre are as follows
Consumables - £800
Drugs - £2000
In order to credit the full amount to the Internal orders from the cost centre the prices must be recalculated and the activity allocation transactions need to be revalued.
Can you please confirm the steps to configure the month end price calculation (specifically around the splitting rule on the cost centre to determine which costs belong to which activity type), and steps to process the revaluation of the transactions?
Many thanks
Phil
Hi Philip,
When u work with cost center independent planning system can't underunderstand which GL account and cost center should plan with respective activity. For that reason we create splitting structures.
Cost center splitting is used in Cost Center Independent Planning where in KP06 you have cost center and cost element only. In this screen, you will not find Activity.
So, to give a relationship between Cost center, cost element, and activity, we will do splitting structure in OKES, and assign it to cost center in OKEW.
When you do KSS2, it will split the costs based on the splitting structure between activities and cost centers.
In this case, you have to maintain qty values in KP26 and later do KP06.
E.g.: we have 3 cost elements:
Salary - 100000
Depreciation - 200000
Electricity - 100000
Total = 400000
Activities:
Labour - 500 hrs
Machine - 1000 hrs
Total = 1500 hrs.
Here, when u calculate per hour rate system wi'll consider total amount / total activity hours.
= 400000/1500 = 226 INR/per hour
Here, if you want to consider salary amount only with Labour hours and deprecation and electricity for machine hours.
For this we will create splitting structure to provide link between cost elements and activity.
In the alove example salaries Wilkinson be linked to labour activity abduction dep and electricity will be linked to .machine hours.
When you run KSPI it will split the cost between respective cost elements and activities. Here, for salary per hour cost would be 100000/500 = 200 per hour.
Also machine per hour rate would be 300000/1000 hours = 300 per hour.
Same will happen in the case of KSII. I.e. actual cost/ activity hours Between respective cost elements and activity.
Hope you understand the basic concept of splitting structure.
BR, Srinivas Salpala
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Que-''actual activity allocation is not allowed for order .''
hi ,
During confirmation of operation at co11n (also at co11), got one error massage i.e "actual activity allocation is not allowed for order "
Due to this error confirmation is not possible .
pls help me to solve this problem.
AMOL WAGH
Edited by: amol wagh on Dec 6, 2008 8:09 PM
Edited by: amol wagh on Dec 6, 2008 8:10 PMDear,
For allocation activity costs, we need to define activity type in KL01 by specifying the unit of measurement of the particular activity type (like machine - Hours etc.). While creating activity type, we will assign a secondary cost element (with category 43) in the activity type through which the activity cost will flow.
After that we will plan for cost center in KP06 (cost elementwise). Then we will plan machine hours in KP26 where we will link the activity type to a particular cost center.
Please give the feed back.
Regards,
R.Brahmankar -
Actual activity allocation is not allowed for order .
hi ,
During confirmation of operation at co11n (also at co11), got one error massage i.e "actual activity allocation is not allowed for order "
Due to this error confirmation is not possible .
pls help me to solve this problem.
AMOL WAGHDear,
What is message number? Did you assign the usersttus in BS02?
For allocation activity costs, we need to define activity type in KL01 by specifying the unit of measurement of the particular activity type (like machine - Hours etc.). While creating activity type, we will assign a secondary cost element (with category 43) in the activity type through which the activity cost will flow.
After that we will plan for cost center in KP06 (cost elementwise). Then we will plan machine hours in KP26 where we will link the activity type to a particular cost center.
When we do price calculation in KSPI, system checks the planned costs for cost center (in KP06) and also checks the machine hours planned (in KP26) and gives the cost for the particular activity type.
Please check the above in the system
Regards,
R.Brahmankar -
Hi SAP Gurus,
I am facing one problem in Actual activity allocation
In production cost center, cost centers are credited with plan price (Re.1) for every activity qty confirmation
the system posted from Jan to May plan price
in the month of June system posted price Rs.2.02 for five transaction for the rest of the transaction it is taking Re.1. I don't from where this has been picked/calculated by the system
Please help in finding this
regards
VSN
Edited by: priyas78 on Sep 5, 2011 2:23HI,
- What is displayed in KSBT - plan must be the same of kp26; executing the report select only period 6, otherwise the system show average values.
- May be I did not understand correctly your question; for clarification, what do you mean with "Re" and "Rs"? are them two different activity type?
Paolo -
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Friends,
I have tried to explain the issue i am facing currently under Product Costing......
1.Cost Component Structure
10 – Material
20 – Labour
30 – Diesel
40 – Electricity
2.KP26 – Planned under Fixed Price
Labour – 2.0 HR
Diesel – 1.0 HR
Electricity – 5.0 HR
3. When I run CK11N system collecting correct rates for all activities (Costing Lot Size- 1)
Like;
1 E LAB10 994310 2.00 2.00 AED 1.0 HR Labour Cost New
2 E DIE20 994320 5.00 5.00 AED 1.0 HR Diesel Cost New
3 E ELE30 994330 1.00 1.00 AED 1.0 HR Electricity Cost
4 M 1100000042 5.00 0.00 AED 1 PC RAW MATERIAL BAKERY CONSUMED
5 G 994201 0.00 0.00 AED Depriciation Cost
6 G 994202 0.00 0.00 AED Sales & Distribution Cost
13.00 AED
4.When I do process order Cost analysis for the produced goods it shows me different figures as my
BOM – RM is 1100000042 1 Quantity
Routing – All activity time is 1 Hr
40002 RAW MATERIAL BAKERY CONSUMED 1005/1100000042 5.00
40015 COST OF GOODS MANUFACTURED 1005/4400000071 13.00-
994310 Labour Cost New CBAKYPDDXB/LAB10 1.33
994320 Diesel Cost New CBAKYPDDXB/DIE20 3.33
994330 Electricity Cost CBAKYPDDXB/ELE30 0.67
2.67- AED
Note :- As per my understanding it should be
Labour Cost New 2.00
Diesel Cost New 5.00
Electricity Cost 1.00
5.Now after Process Order confirmation
40002 RAW MATERIAL BAKERY CONSUMED 1005/1100000042 5.00
40015 COST OF GOODS MANUFACTURED 1005/4400000071 00.00
994310 Labour Cost New CBAKYPDDXB/LAB10 4.00
994320 Diesel Cost New CBAKYPDDXB/DIE20 5.00
994330 Electricity Cost CBAKYPDDXB/ELE30 2.00
16.00
6.For Month end actual Activity calculation and load the activaty actual rates on product
I have configured the system in below manner
1 Work center = Mapped to 1 Production Cost center
Three Different Activities mapped to Secondary Cost Element with 43 Category
For Electrictity Activity assesment from Primary to secondary 1 more cost element created with
Category 42 Like; 994215-Electricity Cost All
One Actual Assessment has been configured to allocate Electricity cost from Primary Cost element to
Product/Order
7.Assessment Cycle Details
Controlling Area 1000 Controlling Area
Cycle ZELE01 Status Reviewed
Start Date 01.01.2014 To 31.10.2014
Text Elec. Cost Allocation to PROD
IND- Interactive
Assessment CEle 994215 Electricity Cost All
Sender
Cost Center CBAKYDXBAD
Cost Element 40204
Receiver
Cost Center CBAKYPDDXB
Tracing Factor
Var.portion type – Actual Activity
Selaction Criteria
Activity Type - ELE30
Receivers Tracing Factor
Cost Ctr Factor per 100
CBAKYPDDXB 100
8.I have received the actuall electricity bill for 1100 AED and the same has accocated through KSU5
After Cycle run when I follow below procedure
KSS2 Actual cost splitting
CBAKYPDDXB Production Dxb LAB01 183.33
CBAKYPDDXB Production Dxb DIE02 183.33
CBAKYPDDXB Production Dxb ELE03 183.33
CBAKYPDDXB Production Dxb DIE20 183.33
CBAKYPDDXB Production Dxb ELE30 183.33
CBAKYPDDXB Production Dxb LAB10 183.35
1100.00
Issue – System Split Electricity cost between all the activities assigned to Workcentres Cost Centre.
But I want to post that cost only to ELE30 Activity and not for all
When I RUN KSSI for actual Price determination system shows
OTy Object Name AUn Act Qty Total price Price (Fixed) PUnit
ATY CBAKYPDDXB/DIE20 Production Dxb HR 5.0 366.66 366.66 10
ATY CBAKYPDDXB/ELE30 Production Dxb HR 2.0 916.65 916.65 10
ATY CBAKYPDDXB/LAB10 Production Dxb HR 2.0 916.75 916.75 10
2200.06
2200.06 is almost double than 1100.00 which is actual electricity cost and the same is actually determined for all the activities.
After revaluation of the process order system posting below values
40002 RAW MATERIAL BAKERY CONSUMED 1005/1100000042 5.00 5.00
40015 COST OF GOODS MANUFACTURED 1005/4400000071 13.00- 13.00-
994310 Labour Cost New CBAKYPDDXB/LAB10 1.33 183.35
994320 Diesel Cost New CBAKYPDDXB/DIE20 3.33 183.33
994330 Electricity Cost CBAKYPDDXB/ELE30 0.67 183.33
2.67- 542.01
Production Variance is posted as 542.01….
I strongly believe there is some issue in configuration for activity allocation….
Main issue is
Point No. 4 – Different Figures in Process Order Cost Analysis
Point No. 7 – Assessment cycle run
Point No. 8 – KSS2 and KSII for Actual cost Allocation and Production variance…
Friends… I have tried to explain maximum please help me to understand the concept or missing configuration/Process.
Thanks
Sagar ChinchkarDear Rajneesh,
I have made the changes as suggested....
It seems now my Order Cost analysis and Product cost analysis are showing the same figures.
I have also maintained cost center splitting structure for ELE30 Activity allocation.
Structure Z1
Splitting structure for AT
Assignment 10
Electricity Cost
100
Allocation for ELE
Cost Element
994215
Activity Type
ELE30
Splitting Rule
100
Allocation for ELE
12
Activity quantity
Version 0
In my case actual activity confirmed is 3.1 for 2 orders in period 5
Order 1 - QTY 2
Order 2 - QTY 1.1
Total actual Electricity exp is 1150 in period 5
followed procedure to post actual activity on product is mentioned below
KSS2 Actual cost splitting - Result as expected 1150 for ELE30
KSII Actual price determination - Result as expected 3.1 actual confirmed QTY for ELE30 with actual price
QTY 3.1 Tot Price 3,709.68 Planned(FIX) 3,709.68 Per Units 10
(System is doing 1150/3.1*10=3709.68)
3.CON2 Actual revaluation of orders
Here while reevaluating the Process Orders system calculation is different
Order 1 - QTY 2 - 558.00
Order 2 - QTY 1.1 - 407.56
Total - 965.57
4. After CON2 system is changing the value of other activities like
LAB10 - Actual confirmed Value 10 to 0
DIE20 - Actual confirmed Value 10 to 0
Which should not be the case....
PL Act Var
40002
RAW MATERIAL BAKERY CONSUMED
1005/1100000042
10.00
15.00
50.00
40015
COST OF GOODS MANUFACTURED
1005/4400000074
26.00-
26.00-
994201
Depriciation Cost
WMBDDEP01
1.00
0.00
100.00-
994202
Sales & Distribution Cost
WMBDS&A01
1.00
0.00
100.00-
994310
Labour Cost New
CBAKYPDDXB/LAB10
4.00
0.00
100.00-
994320
Diesel Cost New
CBAKYPDDXB/DIE20
10.00
0.00
100.00-
994330
Electricity Cost
CBAKYPDDXB/ELE30
2.00
408.06
20,303.00
If we want to just post Electricity cost based on actual Electricity expenses and Labor and Diesel are based on planned activity rates.
What setting is required in current system.....
Million thanks in advance....
Regards
Sagar Chinchkar -
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Thank you so much and best wishes,
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SAP ECC 617
Material ledger activated with activity rate revaluation (i.e. cost center over/under absorption posts to ML and not to production orders)
Standard SAP setup has PRV transaction key used to post both multi-level price differences to inventory and to capture the offset to the cost center clearing entries (GBB-AUI) causing the values to get comingled in the same account
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I'm trying to find a creative way to fill this gap without account substitution.Hi Eric,
This is an interesting one.
Modifying value string might be an option but in my opinion is quite a serious "brain surgery" on the system :-).
You may want to try another option.
In SPRO -> Controlling -> General Controlling -> Organization -> Maintain Versions
for version 0, Controlling Area Settings, Settings for Each Fiscal Year in tab Price Calculation there is field Revaluation.
One of the options there is 'Own business transaction'. With this option posting to sending Cost Centre resulting from actual activity price revaluation will be posted with different Business Transaction (although same secondary cost element as original activity allocation).
In reports you can separate postings based on Business transaction.
It definitely works for Activity Update 1 (revaluation of production orders).
I'm not sure if it works for Activity Udate 2 (no revaluation of production orders).
Please let us know the results of your investigation.
Regards,
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CPTD Error during actual template allocation
Hi,
When i am trying to do CPTD (Actual template allocation) i am getting the belwo error message
System status CRTD is active (ORD 1094052)
Message no. BS013
Diagnosis
Object ORD 1094052 has system status CRTD (Created). According to this status, transaction 'Actual activity allocation' is not allowed.
Procedure
You can only carry out the requested function if this is allowed according to the status of the object.
But I am running for period 3/2010 and this order is created in period 4/2010. I am not getting how this order is selected when i am running for period 3.
Please help me
Thanks & regards@Sudhakara Reddy,
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CPTD transaction is for actual templace allocation and not for costing run. I failed to understand the link between your response and the question asked!
Newsap,
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Hi,
Since we can revaluate the activity costs at actual price in the product costing module itself using t.code MFN1, why SAP has provided another option to revaluate acticvity consumption at actual price in the material ledger multi level price determination?
What is the difference between the both? If i had used MFN1, do i still have to use the revaluation of activity costs provided in the material ledger?Hi,
However don't you think if the production order activity cost has been revaluated at actuals in the production order then during settlement it will carry the activity actual costs which will be shown in material ledger receipts category with the same actuals value for the activity costs.
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Revaluation of actual activity rates
<MODERATOR: please post in the appropriate forum.>
Dear all,
My client is having make to order scenario in which at the time of production order confirmation (co14) actual activity is confirmned and loaded to production order as per planned acticity rates maintained in kp26
i.e actual activity * planned rate , but when actual costs of activities are debited to cost center for these activities there is under/over absorption in cost centers .So i want to know what is to be done for these absorptions .Through sap help i came to know about revaluation tool at actuals ,but how it is done kindly provide some suggestions or any other method of knocking off over /under absorption so that cost of product should be according to actual activity*actual rate.
Thanks and regards
vijayHi Vijay,
I do not have any documentation but I can you the splitting concept one more time. It is more important to understand the concept.
Suppose you have a cost center 1000 that produces 3 activities in a month. You incur lot of expenses in the cost center, say $10,000, out of which $4,000 are fixed costs, which means these costs can not be identified to one particular activity. There are 10 cost elements which contribute to these costs.
The other $6,000 are incurred due to activity 1, 2 and 3. There are 5 cost elements which cause these costs.
Using KP06, you need pair the activity dependent cost elements to the respective activity types and plan the costs.
This way you can separate variable costs from the fixed costs.
Splitting job splits the acitivity independent (fixed) costs to 3 activities in the ratio that you set in KP26. You need to assign equivalence numbers in KP26 for each activity type. Let us say you assigned 1, 3 and 5.
Once you make the above settings, the splitting job will split $4,000 into the 3 activity types into the ratio of 1, 3 and 5.
When you run KSII, activity price is calculated for each activity, which will be the total costs per activity divided by the actual activity output. So, the KP06 costs will be added to the split costs to determine the activity price.
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Regards
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Hi,
I would like to seek advice on the difference.
say in KB21N, i have 2 different activity allocation. 1 to cost center another 1 to sales order.
1) after posted in KB21N, may i know if cost is already updated in cost center or sales order?
2) for sales order, why i need to use va88. what would happen if not followed by va88?
3) for cost center, what tcode i should use after kb21n as a follow up transaction? if yes, what is the follow up tcode for?
thanks alotAs soon as you post KB21N, the sending cost center gets the credit for activities charges to the receiving object. You can view the document through KB23N or view the cost center report S_ALR_87013611.
The Sales Order is primarly an interim collector of costs and an aid to the planning, monitoring, and controlling processes needed. When the job has been completed, you settle the costs to profitability segment.
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Error while updating the Actual Activity Prices
Dear All,
While calculating the Actual activity prices under test run (KSII) ,the system is calculating the prices correctly, but when I run the KSII after deselecting the test run ,the system is giving the following error message:
Cost center EE04301000 activity type RWKHRS: costs exist although activity 0
Message no. KP250
Diagnosis
The plan or actual activity for cost center EE04301000, activity type RWKHRS is 0. However, costs were planned or posted in period(s) 1.
System Response
The SAP System cannot calculate activity prices for this activity type as this would involve division by zero. The plan or actual costs are ignored in activity price calculation.
Procedure
Check activity price calculation in planning for activity type RWKHRS in cost center EE04301000 and the costs planned for period(s) 1.
Activity Type Planning
Primary Cost Planning
For activity price calculation in actual, actual costs are allocated onto the activity type through splitting, although no activity posting was made on this activity type.
The scenario is that we have 4 activity types and planned costs/activity qty for all the 4 activities and calculated plan prices and posted actual costs for all the four types. Production Order created and confirmed only 3 activities out of 4 activities. And when we calculate the Actual prices for all 4 activities the system is giving the above said message.
Please suggest as how to solve this issue.
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SubbuHi Subbu
The error is very much justified.. If your actual qty for any act type is zero, then division by zero would yield an error during activity price calculatoin
You need to ignore this error, if the zero qty for 4th act type is justified.. System would post act price for remaining 3 act types...
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No information was found
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Diagnosis
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Snigdho.Hi ,
With such kind of error " "Data not updated due to errors". " its very difficult so determine the exact cause of the issue .
Did your selection parameters in CPAS has a tick on detailed list . Please tick the detailed list icon and run KPAS again and let me know if you are getting more detailed error from SAP.
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Hello
I am trying to use indirect activity allocations and KSPI to transfer costs from an activity in an indirect cost center to multiple direct cost centers. The Receiver tracing factor is planned SKF (i.e. number of employees). The issue I have is that when doing this allocation, the variable cost at the indirect cost center gets transferred as a fixed cost to the direct cost centers. We need to have this as a variable cost on the direct cost centers. Can anyone suggest anything or let me know if I'm doing something wrong?
Here are my sender/receivers:
Sender:
Quantities Calculated Inversely
Plan Values
Receiver tracing factor:
variable Portions
Planned SKF
No Scaling
Thank youHi Mark
I was able to achieve this in the past...as below
1. On the indirect Cost center - Use an activity type Catg 2 (indirect entry indirect allocation)
2. On the receiver cost centers - Use an act type Catg 4 (Instead of SKF)
3. Enter the Plan Act Qty for this Act Type on the receiver direct cost centers in KP26 and Actual Qty in KB51N
4. In cycle definition - Var Portion Type would be based on Plan Act Qty instead of SKF
5. Execute KSCB - Folllowed by KSPI.....
You can also try the above using SKF on receiver cost centers - But Act Type Catg 2 on the Sender Indirect cost center.... I guess, this is what you have done... In my opinion, this should also work...
I believe, to transfer the costs as variable - You need to plan them in KP06 as variable (i.e. Activity Dependant Planning)....
So, Plan your expenses on the indirect cost center in KP06 with reference to the Act Type Category 2
br, Ajay M -
MASS REVERSAL OF ACTIVITY ALLOCATION
Hi,
Could you please give Transaction code for mass reversal of activity allocation.
With regards,
V.kHi Krishnam,
Either plan or actual activity price calculation KSPI or KSII, you choose extrast -> reset from the top menu after you fill in all data like period, year, cost center group etc. Please note that you can not simulate reversal that means no test indicator when you want to reset the price calculation.
Regards
Sharabh Ivaturi
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