Actual Activity Quantity
Hi
Somebody please explain how the actual activity quantity is confirmed on the production order ?
Hi!
Different activity types like labor, Machine, Factory Overhead etc.. are defined in the system for different resources (Sterilising, Mixing, Grinding, Packing.....) in the production line.
Standard Activity rates are defined in KP26 with the combination of Activity type and Cost Center (generally different for each PP Resource - Work Center). Also the same are defined in Master Recipe with standard one.
When you create production order, system will catch standard rates for machine hour and labor hour which are charged at a predetermined standard rate to be derived. Now when you confirm the PP Order through COR6N, you will put all activity type in actual...say 40 labor hours and 50 machine hours..so based on standard rate defined in KP26 and master recipe, system will calculate actual activity rates.
Also for some of activity type like factiry overheads or others which are dependent on machine hours or labor hours, for that you have to define formula in your resource based on which system will calculate actual activity rates.
Hope it will clear to you. Pls get back for further query.
Thanks & Regards,
Taral Patel
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Table for production order Activity Quantity
Hi Experts,
Can anybody please tell me the name of table where Production order planned and Actual activity quantity with reference to production order number gets saved ?
Thanks in advance.
Regards,
BijayHi bhatiya,
when ever you want to see the table or field name u just click F1 where the data entred field and click on technical button which is screwdriver type icon and u can find out the table name and field names.
if it is useful to you please assign points.
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Gopi. -
Actual Activity Price Calculation
Dear Gurus,
1. I have defined activity type say "Power" through KL01
2. Maintained the planned price through KP26 for the cost center which is going to use this activity type. say
cost center is "CCTR1"
3. Now there is something as actual activity price calculation at period end
4. When i execute through KSII i get the actual price which is the debited cost elements of the "CCTR1"
divided by the Activity Type "Power"
5. The debit balance of cost elements in "CCTR1" is Rs 10000 and activity type consumed through process
order is 200 KWH, hence the Actual price comes to Rs 50 Rs/KWH. While the planned price in KP26 is
Rs 6/KWH
How logical is this....
With Regards,
AmitHi Amit,
Let me give some insight into the Activity price calculation and cost obsorption from Cost Center to Prodcution
1. Normally we incur the production cost through FI like Direct Labor, Power, Indirect Labour and other indirectct production overheads
2. This cost is posted to Production Cost Centers
3. Now this cost need to be obsorbed to product cost using either Activity costing through Routing or Overhead costing using costing sheet.
Since you question is for Activity costing, let us focus only on activity price and absorption to Product Cost
1. All the direct cost that can be tracked with certain reasonability with activity types can be absorbed through activity costing to product costing
2. Now in your case, take for example - the industry you are working is power intensive, then we can track the consumption of Power using activity costing
3. At the first instance, you need to forcast the activity quantities for the month (based on the production planning)
4. Based on this, you forecast the cost that would be incurred for the expected output
5. Calculate planned Acvitiy Unit price and update it in KP26. The updation can be manual or automatic (using Cost Splitting and Price Calculation in case of Activity independant cost planning)
6. For all the activity confirations to the production/process order, the cost obsorption will take place based on the planned price
Actual
7. The cost of the power will be booked in FI and posted to Production Cost Center for the month.
8. The actual Activity quantity will be booked from Production confirmation for the month
9. At the end of the month, you need to do the actual price calculation. This calculation will be based on the TOTAL COST BOOKED FOR THE MONTH TOWARDS POWER FOR THAT COST CENTER DEVIDED BY TOTAL QUANTITY CONSUMPTION RECORDED IN THE COST CENTER
10. Once this is done, You can revaluate the activity quanitities booked on each of the production order.
This is how the activity cost aborption will take place in product costing
Please let me know if you need further details in this regard
Surya -
Customer order actual activity report
Dear experts,
I am using make to order strategy and I have a multilevel BOM structure. I am following some semi-finished products individually for customer order and some for make to stock. I need a report to see the actual activity confirmations for a single customer order including all the activities of semi-finished products in BOM. For your help please.Hi Ahmet,
This is rather a problem of material ledger multi-level settlement than of activity pricing. Material ledger will pick up the actual activity price correctly and will use the difference against the former activvity price as multi-level price difference on the production process. The problem is, if there are multiple outputs coming out of the process, as is resulting of the order combination process, material ledger will by default search for a apportionment structure (for joint production) in the material master of the main (or original) output material. As nothing will be maintained there, all the differences will go to this material.
You can overcome the situation by a BADI implementation of BADI cost_split. There should be an example implementation in your system (if you have the Mill Products add-on active, as is indicated because you use Mill_oc) that enables to distribute the price differences by quantity of the outputs of a process. If you don't find the example implementation I could provide it to you.
best regards,
Udo -
Actual activity price does not exist for cost center / activity type
Hi,
We are trying to upload the time sheet related data(number of hours an employee workred on a project) ect from Non SAP to SAP.
We have used a customized program and have loaded the data from se38.
All this HR data will be saved in CAT2
Later we transfer the time related data into SAP FI/CO using CAT7.
+When tested with a couple of employees time sheets, they got uploaded in SE38 proerly and when transfered it through CAT7 it was properly taking the hour*rate is cost and was reflecting in the respective cost element.
For a few time sheets in SE38 we were getting an error saying that the cost center(100501)/ activity type(EAT001) does not exist for 2010.
Hence we have taken, FY 2010, the cost centes and activity types in KP26 and have given the planned Activity as 1. No planned cost in KP06.
We have run the price calculation forr the FY 2010.
Then we were able to uplaod the time sheets, but when we tried to transfer the data through CAT7, it throws an error saying no activity price exist for cost center 100501/ activity type EAT001. If I ignore the warning an proceed, no amount is being calculated.
When uploaded employee time sheets before, all the cost were getting claculated and were entering into the respective cost elements, but now no amounts are being calculated and it is taking Zero.
When checked the previous years data i.e, 2009 all amounts are fine, in KSII I can see the activity quantity filled with some numbers in 2009, where from are they comming? I have checked KBk6 nothing was mentioned.
PLease assit
Regards,
shilpaHi
I never used CAT* though, but the error means that you need to maintain a activity price in KBK6 (Actual price)
Regards
Ajay M -
Transacciu00F3n MFN1 - Error KA465: Production order with an actual activity up
Hi Exerts,
I am executing transaction MFN1 with "Update of Activity Consumption in the Quantity Structure" = 2 and the following error ocurrs: "KA465 Production order with an actual activity update.".
I changed the customizing "Update of Activity Consumption in the Quantity Structure" to "Activity update not relevant to price determination", after this I exectuted transaction MFN1 again and the error didn't occur.
I need to understand what is the impact of changing this customizing, and if I set the "Update of Activity Consumption..." equal 2, the activity actual values are revaluated in the CKM3N? If the answer is yes, in what point of the CKMLCP this value is revaluated?.
RegardsHi,
please check CKM9 for the relevant plant how you define the Activity update. Please note KA465 is justified to avoid posting the credits and debits twice if the indicator is '2'.
If you are using activity update '2', the differences between planned and actual activity prices are not distributed to the orders but via multilevel price determination directly to the materials.
The system determines the actual prices by means of the multi-level price determination in the actual calculation.
In the actual calculation, the system also already debits the materials and credits the cost centers or vice versa.
In this case, the revaluation must not be executed because otherwise the system posts the debits and credits twice. In this case, the system ought to display error message KA465.
Note 686588 explains under what circumstances error KA465 may be raised, that is, if you have activated Material Ledger/Actual Costing with Activity Consumption '2'. Please check your Material Ledger settings in relation to note 686588.
If you use activity update '1' then revaluation is done via the orders and no longer via Material Ledger.
regards
Waman -
Hi Everybody,
A material has inspection type 01 active but the Post to insp stock is not checked in the QM view of material master. User did three GRs of quantity 10 each for a batch BAT1. So now the actual lot quantity becomes 30.
When the user did the 3rd GR, he noticed that the GR was not to be done. So he cancelled the material document and reversed the document via movement type 102.
After this he did 2 GRs of quantity 5 each. So now the actual lot quantity of the inspection lot should be 101010-10(for the reversed document)55 = 30.
After this, the user did result recording and UD. Now the inspection lot quantity shown in the system is 40 instead of 30. The goods reversal did not had any effect on the actual lot quantity. The stock is perfectly OK and in MMBE the system shows a quantity of 30 only. The problem is only with actual lot quantity.
I have two questions :
1. Why didnt the quantity 10 get subtracted from actual lot quantity ?
2. After the UD is done, is there any way to correct the actual lot quantity ?
Regards,
Manish.HI Everybody,
Sorry for not giving clear information on this. The events took place in the following order :
1. Wrong GR done
2. Wrong GR reversed via movement 102
(As the batch is same, the quantity was updated in one single inspection lot)
3. Result recording and UD done
4. Copmplete stock issued to order
The GR was reversed before taking the UD but still the actual lot quantity didnt get corrected.
Regards,
Manish. -
Collective Order Actual Activity Pricing
Hi Gurus
We are using collective orders for production orders. As you know collective processes are used for costing shared processes.
Let me explain the problem with an example: Say, we have product A and B to be produced. These two have shared operations and costs will be collected via collective orders by Tcode mill_oc.
The process is as below:
Production order 1 for product A. - Normal production order - CO01
Production order 2 for product B. - Normal production order - CO01
Production order 3 for product A - Collective production order - mill_oc
Confirmations are done for Order 3 during period. At the end of the period Order 3 is settled to Order 1 and Order 2 with certain proportions.
Actual activity price is calculated via Tcode:KSII. During CKMLCP the system valuates activities (posting price differences) for Order 3 product, Product A only. It must be the case that Product A and Product B have to be revaluated.
NOTE: Actual activity price is valuated in material ledger, rather in orders (not with CON2)
Is there any OSS notes or solution for this problem? If there is huge activity price differences, all the value is posted to just one product, which is collective orders product, rather than both lower level orders' products.
Thanks in advance for your replies.
AhmetHi Ahmet,
This is rather a problem of material ledger multi-level settlement than of activity pricing. Material ledger will pick up the actual activity price correctly and will use the difference against the former activvity price as multi-level price difference on the production process. The problem is, if there are multiple outputs coming out of the process, as is resulting of the order combination process, material ledger will by default search for a apportionment structure (for joint production) in the material master of the main (or original) output material. As nothing will be maintained there, all the differences will go to this material.
You can overcome the situation by a BADI implementation of BADI cost_split. There should be an example implementation in your system (if you have the Mill Products add-on active, as is indicated because you use Mill_oc) that enables to distribute the price differences by quantity of the outputs of a process. If you don't find the example implementation I could provide it to you.
best regards,
Udo -
Actual Activity allocation and Planned and actual activity comparison issue in Product Costing
Friends,
I have tried to explain the issue i am facing currently under Product Costing......
1.Cost Component Structure
10 – Material
20 – Labour
30 – Diesel
40 – Electricity
2.KP26 – Planned under Fixed Price
Labour – 2.0 HR
Diesel – 1.0 HR
Electricity – 5.0 HR
3. When I run CK11N system collecting correct rates for all activities (Costing Lot Size- 1)
Like;
1 E LAB10 994310 2.00 2.00 AED 1.0 HR Labour Cost New
2 E DIE20 994320 5.00 5.00 AED 1.0 HR Diesel Cost New
3 E ELE30 994330 1.00 1.00 AED 1.0 HR Electricity Cost
4 M 1100000042 5.00 0.00 AED 1 PC RAW MATERIAL BAKERY CONSUMED
5 G 994201 0.00 0.00 AED Depriciation Cost
6 G 994202 0.00 0.00 AED Sales & Distribution Cost
13.00 AED
4.When I do process order Cost analysis for the produced goods it shows me different figures as my
BOM – RM is 1100000042 1 Quantity
Routing – All activity time is 1 Hr
40002 RAW MATERIAL BAKERY CONSUMED 1005/1100000042 5.00
40015 COST OF GOODS MANUFACTURED 1005/4400000071 13.00-
994310 Labour Cost New CBAKYPDDXB/LAB10 1.33
994320 Diesel Cost New CBAKYPDDXB/DIE20 3.33
994330 Electricity Cost CBAKYPDDXB/ELE30 0.67
2.67- AED
Note :- As per my understanding it should be
Labour Cost New 2.00
Diesel Cost New 5.00
Electricity Cost 1.00
5.Now after Process Order confirmation
40002 RAW MATERIAL BAKERY CONSUMED 1005/1100000042 5.00
40015 COST OF GOODS MANUFACTURED 1005/4400000071 00.00
994310 Labour Cost New CBAKYPDDXB/LAB10 4.00
994320 Diesel Cost New CBAKYPDDXB/DIE20 5.00
994330 Electricity Cost CBAKYPDDXB/ELE30 2.00
16.00
6.For Month end actual Activity calculation and load the activaty actual rates on product
I have configured the system in below manner
1 Work center = Mapped to 1 Production Cost center
Three Different Activities mapped to Secondary Cost Element with 43 Category
For Electrictity Activity assesment from Primary to secondary 1 more cost element created with
Category 42 Like; 994215-Electricity Cost All
One Actual Assessment has been configured to allocate Electricity cost from Primary Cost element to
Product/Order
7.Assessment Cycle Details
Controlling Area 1000 Controlling Area
Cycle ZELE01 Status Reviewed
Start Date 01.01.2014 To 31.10.2014
Text Elec. Cost Allocation to PROD
IND- Interactive
Assessment CEle 994215 Electricity Cost All
Sender
Cost Center CBAKYDXBAD
Cost Element 40204
Receiver
Cost Center CBAKYPDDXB
Tracing Factor
Var.portion type – Actual Activity
Selaction Criteria
Activity Type - ELE30
Receivers Tracing Factor
Cost Ctr Factor per 100
CBAKYPDDXB 100
8.I have received the actuall electricity bill for 1100 AED and the same has accocated through KSU5
After Cycle run when I follow below procedure
KSS2 Actual cost splitting
CBAKYPDDXB Production Dxb LAB01 183.33
CBAKYPDDXB Production Dxb DIE02 183.33
CBAKYPDDXB Production Dxb ELE03 183.33
CBAKYPDDXB Production Dxb DIE20 183.33
CBAKYPDDXB Production Dxb ELE30 183.33
CBAKYPDDXB Production Dxb LAB10 183.35
1100.00
Issue – System Split Electricity cost between all the activities assigned to Workcentres Cost Centre.
But I want to post that cost only to ELE30 Activity and not for all
When I RUN KSSI for actual Price determination system shows
OTy Object Name AUn Act Qty Total price Price (Fixed) PUnit
ATY CBAKYPDDXB/DIE20 Production Dxb HR 5.0 366.66 366.66 10
ATY CBAKYPDDXB/ELE30 Production Dxb HR 2.0 916.65 916.65 10
ATY CBAKYPDDXB/LAB10 Production Dxb HR 2.0 916.75 916.75 10
2200.06
2200.06 is almost double than 1100.00 which is actual electricity cost and the same is actually determined for all the activities.
After revaluation of the process order system posting below values
40002 RAW MATERIAL BAKERY CONSUMED 1005/1100000042 5.00 5.00
40015 COST OF GOODS MANUFACTURED 1005/4400000071 13.00- 13.00-
994310 Labour Cost New CBAKYPDDXB/LAB10 1.33 183.35
994320 Diesel Cost New CBAKYPDDXB/DIE20 3.33 183.33
994330 Electricity Cost CBAKYPDDXB/ELE30 0.67 183.33
2.67- 542.01
Production Variance is posted as 542.01….
I strongly believe there is some issue in configuration for activity allocation….
Main issue is
Point No. 4 – Different Figures in Process Order Cost Analysis
Point No. 7 – Assessment cycle run
Point No. 8 – KSS2 and KSII for Actual cost Allocation and Production variance…
Friends… I have tried to explain maximum please help me to understand the concept or missing configuration/Process.
Thanks
Sagar ChinchkarDear Rajneesh,
I have made the changes as suggested....
It seems now my Order Cost analysis and Product cost analysis are showing the same figures.
I have also maintained cost center splitting structure for ELE30 Activity allocation.
Structure Z1
Splitting structure for AT
Assignment 10
Electricity Cost
100
Allocation for ELE
Cost Element
994215
Activity Type
ELE30
Splitting Rule
100
Allocation for ELE
12
Activity quantity
Version 0
In my case actual activity confirmed is 3.1 for 2 orders in period 5
Order 1 - QTY 2
Order 2 - QTY 1.1
Total actual Electricity exp is 1150 in period 5
followed procedure to post actual activity on product is mentioned below
KSS2 Actual cost splitting - Result as expected 1150 for ELE30
KSII Actual price determination - Result as expected 3.1 actual confirmed QTY for ELE30 with actual price
QTY 3.1 Tot Price 3,709.68 Planned(FIX) 3,709.68 Per Units 10
(System is doing 1150/3.1*10=3709.68)
3.CON2 Actual revaluation of orders
Here while reevaluating the Process Orders system calculation is different
Order 1 - QTY 2 - 558.00
Order 2 - QTY 1.1 - 407.56
Total - 965.57
4. After CON2 system is changing the value of other activities like
LAB10 - Actual confirmed Value 10 to 0
DIE20 - Actual confirmed Value 10 to 0
Which should not be the case....
PL Act Var
40002
RAW MATERIAL BAKERY CONSUMED
1005/1100000042
10.00
15.00
50.00
40015
COST OF GOODS MANUFACTURED
1005/4400000074
26.00-
26.00-
994201
Depriciation Cost
WMBDDEP01
1.00
0.00
100.00-
994202
Sales & Distribution Cost
WMBDS&A01
1.00
0.00
100.00-
994310
Labour Cost New
CBAKYPDDXB/LAB10
4.00
0.00
100.00-
994320
Diesel Cost New
CBAKYPDDXB/DIE20
10.00
0.00
100.00-
994330
Electricity Cost
CBAKYPDDXB/ELE30
2.00
408.06
20,303.00
If we want to just post Electricity cost based on actual Electricity expenses and Labor and Diesel are based on planned activity rates.
What setting is required in current system.....
Million thanks in advance....
Regards
Sagar Chinchkar -
What is the activity quantity in KSII and how is it arrived
Hi,
Could any body help me to understand what is the activity quantity in KSII. How will we arrive at the figure we get when we run KSII.
I know the that we would be giving theplanned cost in KP06, planned activity quantity in KP26 and then when we run the price calculation in KSPI we get the total price for the cost center and the activity type. This is what is the planned total price for a period.
I am unable to understand the differece between the planned and the standard cost. Please help me with an example.
Standard cost is planned cost * actual hours, correct me if I am wrong.
Please assist,
Regards,
Shilpa.Hi Shipla ,
You have two questions :-
1. How to get activity quantity in KSII
KSII is actual price calculation . Actual Price = Actual Cost/ Actual Qty..
Actual quantty is derived from quantity confirmed in production/process order and direct activity allocation done to the cost center . If you see a Cost Center Plan/Actual variance report.. you can see the actual quantity booked in a process Order . Actual Cost is the cost booked into the cost centers ..from FI/CO /IO settlement etc ..
During Actual costing , activity costs are generally booked at plan rate ( KP26). In KSII , actual price is computed and the difference is allocated to the cost centers.
2. Standard cost is planned cost * actual hours
No , plan cost is the cost you have planned for the year . You can use the plan cost to create a cost estimate . This cost estimate can be used as standard cost or for any anaylsis purpose..
Always remeber that purpose of product cost planning is to compute product cost estimate . This estimate may be used as standard costs.
Hope it clarifies..
Regards
Sarada -
Hi Friends
For calculating the actual rate system take all the actual activity cost and divide it with actual quantity. I want to know how the system is calculating actual activity cost.
In KSII system will calculate the actual activity rate. What is the backgroung calculation. Or how to find out the actual activity cost per period is XXXX.
Regards
Jos
Edited by: Joji Jose V on Nov 15, 2010 3:58 PMHi Jose
1. Actual Activity cost means Actual cost posted with cost center and act type in FI postings / Depreciation postings
however, this is quite rare... To use this, Act Type must be switched in OKKP in Control Indicators
2. In absence of (1), Actual Actvity cost means Actual cost posted with cost center
3. If there are more than one act type in a cost center, then KSS2 would split the costs between the act types based on your Splitting rule in OKES... And then these costs would be divided by Actual Act Qty to calculate the Activity price
Regards
Ajay M -
Error while updating the Actual Activity Prices
Dear All,
While calculating the Actual activity prices under test run (KSII) ,the system is calculating the prices correctly, but when I run the KSII after deselecting the test run ,the system is giving the following error message:
Cost center EE04301000 activity type RWKHRS: costs exist although activity 0
Message no. KP250
Diagnosis
The plan or actual activity for cost center EE04301000, activity type RWKHRS is 0. However, costs were planned or posted in period(s) 1.
System Response
The SAP System cannot calculate activity prices for this activity type as this would involve division by zero. The plan or actual costs are ignored in activity price calculation.
Procedure
Check activity price calculation in planning for activity type RWKHRS in cost center EE04301000 and the costs planned for period(s) 1.
Activity Type Planning
Primary Cost Planning
For activity price calculation in actual, actual costs are allocated onto the activity type through splitting, although no activity posting was made on this activity type.
The scenario is that we have 4 activity types and planned costs/activity qty for all the 4 activities and calculated plan prices and posted actual costs for all the four types. Production Order created and confirmed only 3 activities out of 4 activities. And when we calculate the Actual prices for all 4 activities the system is giving the above said message.
Please suggest as how to solve this issue.
Regards
SubbuHi Subbu
The error is very much justified.. If your actual qty for any act type is zero, then division by zero would yield an error during activity price calculatoin
You need to ignore this error, if the zero qty for 4th act type is justified.. System would post act price for remaining 3 act types...
Regards
Ajay M -
At the time of actual activity price calculatoin with diffenrent currency
Dear Friends,
I am facing some problems. Followings are the information/Problems:
Controlling Area Currency - USD
Company Code currency - INR
Exchange rate - M type - 46.90
Exchange rate - P type 46.90
This problem is due to problem-1. At the time of actual activity price calculatoin, I am geeting huge price because system has multiplied (problem-1) and now system is taking posted amount in usd to calcualte actual activity price and according to my observation after calcualtion in usd system is converting price into INR
Questions - 1. What is the logic of calculation of actual activity price.
2. As I feel after analyses that sytems is taking posted cost in controlling area currecy and then calculating price and then converting into INR,
Is my theory correct in term of SAP standard functionality. is there any method by when system take only posted figure in inr for activity price calcualtion.
Please reply as soon as possible.
Thanks1. If you are using common controlling area with two different participating company code currency, then you have to use group controlling currency and integrate the other company code currency with parallel currency defined in the FI ledger. Hope this is design principle based on which you have selected group currency.
2. In case group currency controlling then non-participating currency should calculate the activity rates in group currency. Meaning you have define the activity rates at EUR currency and remember this has to accepted globally.
This is key drawback where you cannot define activity rates in INR, whereas there is no option activity type creation to give object currency as INR.
Hope this clarifies. -
Que-''actual activity allocation is not allowed for order .''
hi ,
During confirmation of operation at co11n (also at co11), got one error massage i.e "actual activity allocation is not allowed for order "
Due to this error confirmation is not possible .
pls help me to solve this problem.
AMOL WAGH
Edited by: amol wagh on Dec 6, 2008 8:09 PM
Edited by: amol wagh on Dec 6, 2008 8:10 PMDear,
For allocation activity costs, we need to define activity type in KL01 by specifying the unit of measurement of the particular activity type (like machine - Hours etc.). While creating activity type, we will assign a secondary cost element (with category 43) in the activity type through which the activity cost will flow.
After that we will plan for cost center in KP06 (cost elementwise). Then we will plan machine hours in KP26 where we will link the activity type to a particular cost center.
Please give the feed back.
Regards,
R.Brahmankar -
Actual activity allocation is not allowed for order .
hi ,
During confirmation of operation at co11n (also at co11), got one error massage i.e "actual activity allocation is not allowed for order "
Due to this error confirmation is not possible .
pls help me to solve this problem.
AMOL WAGHDear,
What is message number? Did you assign the usersttus in BS02?
For allocation activity costs, we need to define activity type in KL01 by specifying the unit of measurement of the particular activity type (like machine - Hours etc.). While creating activity type, we will assign a secondary cost element (with category 43) in the activity type through which the activity cost will flow.
After that we will plan for cost center in KP06 (cost elementwise). Then we will plan machine hours in KP26 where we will link the activity type to a particular cost center.
When we do price calculation in KSPI, system checks the planned costs for cost center (in KP06) and also checks the machine hours planned (in KP26) and gives the cost for the particular activity type.
Please check the above in the system
Regards,
R.Brahmankar
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