Actual cost distribution in cost object hierarchies

Hi all,
I cannot distribute the actual costs collected on a cost object hierarchy since the costs are retrieved from an assessment cycle with a cost element with category 42 (assessment).
I would like to assign my production cost centers balances to cost object hierarchy and then distribute it with transaction KKPX - Distribution of cost object hierarchy costs.
Would someone have any idea how I could proceed?
Thanks in advance.
Ronan

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I am getting an error while doing the Distribution of Actual cost from Cost Object Node to the assigned Order.
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Concerning error message KZ 468, it has the following origin: In the customizing of the cost object category (transaction okz5), check if the 'single object selection' is set to 'Control through variance key'. If you consider the F1-Help for this option you will find the following explanation:
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Did you check whether for this cost element/origin target costs exist, and also for the cost element group? If not the message KZ468 is correct and probably the cost element group has to be maintained properly.
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If CO-PA is active, the system generates a settlement rule when you create the sales order. The settlement rule determines whether data is settled to other objects or other areas in Controlling. In accordance with this settlement rule, the relevant data is settled to CO-PA.
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Enter only one true account assignment
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You made assignments to several objects in CO (cost center, order, project etc.). 2 of these have been created as true objects.
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Enter only one true account assignment
Message no. KI249
Diagnosis
You made assignments to several objects in CO (cost center, order, project etc.). 2 of these have been created as true objects.
System Response
You are allowed only one account assignment for each cost-relevant account
How to resolve this issue.. Do I make any config changes in the system to overcome this issue?
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