Additive cost in Std Cost estimate
Hi
I have a requirement to add extra cost in a material cost estimate for certain plants. Because of this I have two costing variants in our case. One is without this extra cost and another with extra cost. This cost is actually freight cost for certain materials.
For this purpose I am planning to use additive cost. I have created one item in the cost component structure and assigned the cost element for this additive cost.
I think that is all I require with regard to additive cost. Now when I try to enter additive cost, system showing some screen showing resources and all. I am not able to understand how can I enter it as a resource ?
Hi Nikita
I wont recommend allocation from cost center to prod orders....
You will have a toughtime entering the SKFs for the prod orders... You would agree that you would need tracing factor in the allocation cycle... which would be SKF... You need to identify the prod orders processed during the month, then enter SKF for them and then execute allocation cycle
Just think about it... May be you would realize the complicacy of it... I would suggest to use a costing sheet or a template allocation.. I dont know how the later works, I am nt an expert at it
Regards
Ajay M
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Hi Gurus ,
We need a additive cost estimate Report that would show the Material,Plant, additive cost (in dollars NOT "x" as shown in KEKO or KEPH table).
for the above I tried a simple Querry with MARC-KEKO-KEPH (didn't conside MBEW-MARA) , in SQ01 But the end resul is same as KEKO table Just Showing the "x" mark,
Users can not go for individual validation after doing a Mass upload of CK76N using LSMW so would like to see a detailed report with Dollar amount and comare it with their Books.
I searched SDN for this kind of report But no useful information,
Your Help Greately Appreciated,
Note: please don't say Use, KEKO, KEPH tables,Thank you ,
SandhyaYou can look at Functional Modules in SE37. You can as well execute them in test in the tcode to provide the input values, it would show the out put values as well.
You need to provide your requirements by explaining what you are achieving in CK76n and how they are stored in Tables KEKO, etc... and ask him to build a program using the above functional modules.
Infact if the above functional modules doesnot work, you can ask the ABAPer to use the same function modules used in CK76n to get the information and make the requirement changes to meet your requirements.
Edited by: Suraj Ramamurthy on Dec 9, 2008 2:33 PM -
How to include ED in Std.cost estimate
Dear all
My client want to add ED to Std. cost estimate in receiving plant(Depot). I have acheived this by way of additive cost estimate manually. but my client wants that system could pick up the Ed from SD where ED is maintained SKU wise.
At recieving plant(Depot) the std.cost estimate is like this
Std cost from production Plant
ED from SD
Freight ( certain % on ( St.cost+ED)
Std cost at depot
Is it possible to get above scenerio?
Pl help me out
Regards
SPSankaramHI
Standard formula for workcenter costing is SAP008 , you have to specify in the costing and capacity tab , whereas for scheduling specify SAP004
then try creating the order
regards
thyagarajan -
Additive Cost and Variance Calcultion
We started using Tcode CK74N to enter additive costs for certian materials. I did the configuration needed in the costing variant and added a cost element for additive costs in the cost component structure.
Everything is working fine, when we run CK11n for a material that already have an additive cost estimate, the additive costs are being picked up and included in the cost estimate. if we mark and release the cost estimate the additive costs are being reflected in the new standard, so far so good.
My question is around the variance postings that happen once we enter a production order and settle the variance at period end.
lets look at this example
Assume the following:
Material X current standard = $100
Order X quantity produced =10 cases
Material X NEW standard after negative additive cost =$80
Scenario 1 (no additive costs) the total debits (Actual postings form material consumption and activity confirmation) to a the order = $900
The total credit was $1000 (standard*quantity produced) , a $100 in variance will occur, and the posting at settlement will be to Debit the price difference account and to credit the cost of sales account for $100. This is the normal case
Scenario 2 : We included a -$200 of additive costs for that material in the standard (new Standard is 80) , the credit to the order will be $800 instead of $1000 , which will make the variance -$200 and the posting currently is to DR cost of sales and credit price difference account for $200
The business and Based on scenario 2 wants to automatically generate a posting to the ACTUAL side of the production order equivalent to the additional variance caused by additive costs? which will put the variance back at 100.
They would like to see a credit to the cost element used in the cost component structure to book additive costs. and the reminder of the variance 100 in our example should continue to be booked to the same price different account .
If this is possible and right to do? what account should be used to offset this credit that being proposed to the additive cost element ? Because I assume that a new FI document should be created to record the credit?
Thanks for your helpHey,
It depends a little upon the settlement rule of your process/production order.
If you are settling to the material (MAT), the price difference will only be accounted for with one line, without separation between difference coming from additive costs and other differences.
If you are settling not via within CO, you maybe have the possibility the way you settle, but I can not see how you can use such a logic in a settlement process.
What I would do, is to create a custom reposting program, which reposts the additive cost difference separately, after which the normal settlement can take care of the remaining difference.
Regards,
Koen -
Hi ,
I have LSMW for Additive cost upload, but unfortunately we have additive cost for all materilas valid up to 9999 year so when ever we use LSMW for upload we need to hit (as it gives that screen showing previous additive cost estimate as it over laps) ENTER for so many times until we finish all materilas, so
can any one please tell me how to delete all additive costs which is maintainted till 9999 , so that we don't get any messages during LSMW upload?
PaarthaSuraj,
Don't mind As both my issues are inte-rrelated I am dragging our conversaton, I saw that Field in KEKO-KKZMA, but it is Just a indicator that says this product is having some Additive costs, But not the Dollar amount,
S_ALR_87099930 the regular cost estimates report from the Field selection I can Have Additive costs but even this shows Blank, i really wonder "where can I see the actual dollar amount" or any Document that saves the data, Just Like a price change Document, as you said you guys developed the Z report (to be frank I couldn't do this in My last Project, Now I got the same requirement here with new Client) , If you can let me know the main Tables you (MARA, MARC, MBEW, KEKO, KEPH) you took as base,?
and where can I see actaul dollar amount, even in CK76N It won't show "the dolalr amount" for materials it Just Lists all materilas from where you need to Click and go in side to see the dollar amount,
If you want you can reply to below thread I will close this Thread,
Additive costs :Report
Regards
Paartha -
Additive Cost - Product Costing
What is the use of additive cost.
What are the configuration required to set up the additive cost.
Also pl explain one sample business scenarios where additive cost can be used.
please reply asap.
regards
abhayYou can also use an Additive Cost to represent the 'markup' for Inter-Company transfers, freight, special handling, etc.
CONFIG: Define Costing Variants:
IMG> Controlling> Product Cost Controlling> Product Cost Planning> Material Cost Estimate with Quantity Structure> Define Costing Variants (OKKN)
Choose appropriate Costing Variant. On u2018Additive costsu2019 tab, choose u201CInclude additive costsu201D in the field Additive Cost Comps. Also, flag the u201CInclude additive costs with stock transfersu201D option.
1. Create an Additive Cost Estimate using a u2018Vu2019 Item Category (Variable Item). Follow menupath: Accounting> Controlling> Product Cost Controlling> Product Cost Planning> Material Costing> Cost Estimate with Quantity Structure> Additive Costs> Create (CK74N)
2. Create a new Material Cost Estimate with Quantity Structure to automatically include the Additive Cost Estimate created in Step 2. Use menupath: Accounting> Controlling> Product Cost Controlling> Product Cost Planning> Material Costing> Cost Estimate with Quantity Structure> Create (CK11N)
The new Material Cost Estimate with Quantity Structure will have automatically pulled in the Additive Cost Estimate that you created in Step 1.
If you want to view the Additive Cost Estimate use menupath: Costs> Additive Costs (CK13N) within the Material Cost Estimate with Quantity Structure display screen. -
We cannot do std cost estimate every month in ML
HI
Can we do std cost estimate whenever required with changed price,
can i change the price in material master -how
regards
sowmyaHi,
We can do std cost estimate once in a month. If we want to do multiple times in a month we should reorganise the material cost estimate using CKR1.
We can change the material master price for a material with out standard cost estimate using MR21.
If standard cost estimate exist, use CKR1, the use MR21.
Regards,
Rijo Paul -
I have a requirement and seek your clarification:
Here we are in the process of settings of Product Costing. The client wants to have a display of cost estimate as follows:
Here the production process has 3 stages. Once the Standard Costing is run, it should be able to view the cost estimate as follows:
Process-I : Raw Material Cost xx
Direct Labour Cost xx
Overheads xx
Process-II : Raw Material Cost xx
Direct Labour Cost xx
Overheads xx
Process-III : Raw Material Cost xx
Direct Labour Cost xx
Overheads xx
What is the best way out ? Do I have to have different cost elements for same item process-wise ?
Please give your inputs.Hi Nikitha
I am not able to understand where your issue is...
This requirement is pretty standard and is addressed with in std SAP itself....
For each of these process,I am sure, you would be having a separate material code.... i.e. say, raw mat 1 is inputted... After passing through Process 1, It is termed as SFG A... Then A passes through Process 2 and the outcome is termed as SFG B and similarly FG C
Each Material A, B and C has its own BOM and routing.... BOM for B, will have A as component and BOM for C will have B as component....
When you execute CK11N for each one of these, cost for each A B and C is stored separately because each material is a separate entity in itself.. There is no reason why you would define separate GL accounts for them...
In CK13N, each one of them will show you its own cost...
You can await inputs from other members also...
Regards
Ajay M -
Dear Experts,
We have ROH, HALB & ZMAT as materials. The question is with respect std. cost estimate.
The cost estimate are run for HALB & ZMAT items created on day to day basis. However cost estimate is executed for all the HALB & ZMAT on alternate months.
I would lke to know the best practice or industry standard on this issue on the frequency of estimates. I appreciate any other points rellated to this point.
Thanks in advance.
T.S.Shankarhi read the following basics of CO-PC
1)A material cost estimate used to calculate the standard price in the
material master record.
2)The cost estimate must be executed with a costing variant that updates
the material master, and the cost estimate must be released.
3)Forms the basis for profit planning or product costing where the focus
is on determining the variances.
4)Typicall, a standard cost estimate is created for each product at the
beginning of the fiscal year or new season or BEGINING OF THE PERIOD / MONTH.
5)Standard cost estimates establish standard prices for semifinished
products and finished products. The costs calculated in standard cost
estimates are used to valuate materials with standard price control.
A costing type that calculates the cost of goods manufactured for a
product during the course of a planning period.
It differs from the standard cost estimate in that it uses the quantity
structure that has changed during the planning period as the basis for
calculating costs. ( WHEN EVR YOUR PLANNING WILL BE CHANGED )
CURRENT COST ESTIMATE
1)A cost estimate that can be created at any time to valuate the current
quantity structure with the current prices.
This cost estimate serves the following purposes:
A) You can compare its results with the results of the standard cost
estimate to support decision-making in production.
B)You can transfer the results of this cost estimate to the material
master and use them to valuate the goods receipt when working with
materials that use the moving average price.
Regards
Mala K Reddy -
How to Run a Cost Estimate with Budgeted Values parallel to the Std Cost Estiamte
Hi Experts,
My client want to run a parallel cost estimate with Budgeted values for each type of cost in a similar process like standard cost estimate(currently only Std business run only the std. cost estimate). Below will be provided to run the said cost estimate.
1. Budgeted Cost for cost elements against each cost center
2. Re-posting/distribution will be required run to allocate and apportion the cost from service cost centers to Production cost centers
3. All Planned(future) Material Cost will be provided. (note that the valuation strategy of costing variant of standard cost estimate has below sequence
4. Budgeted activity quantities will be provided. (Cost and activity qty for Kp06 and Kp26)
Based on the above data business need to run a cost estimate with budgeted values parallel to the standard cost estimate(based on planned values), which will be compared with actual then Budget at each months.
Simply an alternative cost estimate with budgeted values for a given period for all materials.
Kindly advice the possibility of such a cost estimate in the system and if possible pls. mentioned the Process in order and configuration steps for the same.
Thanks in advance.
AzizHi..
You can define costing variants which have valuation variant for budgeted values parallel to the standard cost estimate in Customizing for Product Cost Controlling.
You can define target cost versions using above costing variants under the customizing transaction OKV6 as below picture.
When you calculate variances, you can check “all target cost version” flag to calculate variances for all target cost versions in the controlling area as below picture.
You can analysis the difference between actual cost and several budget cost using target cost version as below picture. -
Preliminary cost and std cost estimate
Hi all,
I tried to find out the reason behind the material price difference I am getting by clicking *COST ESTIMATE* in KKF6N and the price in CK11N . In KKF6N I am getting the price 500 and while doing CK11N I am getting 2000. please let me know how price is being calculated in both the screens.
Material is -- HALB
STD Price in Material master -- 200
moving price -- 50
stock -- 20
Costing variant in CK11N --- PPC1
Costing variant in KKF6N --- YPRM Premilinary PCC
Regards
KumarHi,
check both costing variants used. Looks like the valuation variant within the costing variant uses moving averagre price in KKF6N and standard price in CK11N to valuate the material quantity.
Best regards, Christian -
FG Valuation basis - Std Cost estimate or Net sale value whichever is less
Dear SAP Experts,
Query 1 -
Valuation of Finished goods is done on basis of standard cost estimate (CK24) or Net sale value whichever is less
*Net sale value u2013 Net sales ( Sales value minus Sales deductions)
Eg : Std cost estimate gives FG price as $100, whereas Net sale value price of FG $80,
now the client wants FG values should be at $80
Is there any standard way, wherein SAP can capture whichever is less i.e standard cost estimate vs Net Sale Value
Pl let us know the options and which options would be ideal for query 1
Query 2 u2013 Can we use CRK1 and MR21 to manually change FG price whenever Net sale value is less than std cost estmate price?
u2022 In case the market value is less than the std cost estimate (CK11n) ,then Is this the approach to manually value FG price using CRK1 & MR21.
u2022 What could be the impacts if we follow this approach
For Eg: Impact on prev months WIP, Scrap, stock returns etc
u2022 We simulated CRK1 & MR21 and MR21 entries are posted successfully, however following below warning is the message is showed when CRK1 is executed
Note u2013 Material Ledger is not active
Warning Message
Deleting current standard cost estimates can cause inconsistencies. Your comments please
Message no. CK669
Diagnosis
u2022 If you delete a current standard cost estimate, the fields for the cost estimate are set to zero in the material master record. If you use the material ledger, the standard prices in the material ledger master data are also deleted when you delete the current standard cost estimate. The material master record for the material thus does no longer contains a current standard price from a standard cost estimate.
u2022 If you delete an active standard cost estimate, you can no longer determine scrap, work in process and variations for previous periods.
u2022 In certain countries, it is a legal requirement to maintain records of standard pricing. Therefore, you should check whether you are obliged by law to keep records of your standard cost estimates. Please also contact the relevant accounting and inventory management departments.Dear,
Query 1;
The FG or SFG will be valuated at Standard Cost there is no provision to enter Net sale value
Query 2:
Do not user CKR1 to delete Cost Estimate because it can bring lot of Descripenceies in CO, SAP do not recommend the same.
You can run the revaluation at the month end or revise your activity rates so that you standard price will be change accordingly and your inventory will be re valuated.
Hope it is clear, it not then please revert.
Br,Vivek -
Display Dept. amount in Std cost estimate cost component view
Dears,
During implementation of Repetitive manufacturing, my customer Requirement is to have 4 activity types:
1- Utilities : (Elect-water-GAS ... Etc)
2- Labor : (salary - bonus ..Etc)
3- Depreciation : (Depreciation exp)
4- other : like (maintenance .. Etc)
he wants that so he can know this classification of the above costs liek depreciation per material in the standard cost estimate so my question is:
Is it applicable to display the above requirement and using only 2 activity types
Labour and machine
and use the cost component structure to display the above req ?
as an example:
in CK11N : if i switch to cost component view to display the depreciation amount and Etc
Thanks and best Regards,
Ahmed SamirSalaam Ahmad
You have both choices.
You can go with 4 act types or go with 2 and use costing sheet for the other costs
I will prefer 4 act types
Br. Ajay M -
Selction of PV during Std cost estimate
hi guys,
Is it possible to set the selection of production version when running standard cost estimate CK11N,
thanks in advance,
Mohan MHi
yes if you maintain the production version at workscheduling tab in material master,
then at time of CK11n running in quantity structure tab you have option to slectthe production version
check
-ashok -
Table -- log detail for std cost estimate material
Dear experts,
In which table the standard cost estimate log details will be stored? for ex: warning / error messages
Our client wants to develop customized ALV report for to show consolidate list (instead to check 1 by 1).
plz help me.
Regards
SankaranHi,
Please use Table CMFK and CMFP for this.
Thanks,
Pawan Kumar
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