AE animated bg Compressor DVDSP

Anyone else out there using After Effects to create animated backgrounds for DVDSP? I can't seem to figure why the rendered QT file from AE looks great but then looks horrible when imported into DVDSP. To be more specific:
a) Text looks horribly aliased
b) Edges on certain graphic elements look jaggy
c) Slight color shift (not all the time)
My workflow:
a) Render out of AE using Animation, 720x480, Millions+
b) Encode in Compressor using about 7.5 - 8.5 bitrate, 15 GOP, closed, 2-pass VBR
Any suggestions? Thanks in advanced.

I used the best quality DVD Preset.
"Fits 120 Minutes of video with Dolby Digital at 192 KBPS or 90 minutes with AIFF on a DVD-5"
I tried switching the GOP to "IP" which made it play fine on the computer but not on a DVD Player.
I used both Memorex and FujiFilm.
This is for a DVD9 (Dual Layer) project. I have done Dual Layer before with no problems so this one is new.

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