Annoying clock problems

I'm thoroughly confused over the clock on my pc.
After running:   rdate -s time.nist.gov
The time reported in vc1 with "hwclock" (as root) is 23:54 BST (this is the correct time)
The time reported in vc2 with "hwclock" (as a normal user) is 18:54 EDT (this is incorrect)
The time reported in an Xterm window with "hwclock" (as root) is 23:54 EDT (this is incorrect)
The time reported in vc1 with "date" (as root) is 23:54 BST  (this is the correct time)
The time reported in vc2 with "date" (as a normal user) is 18:54 EDT (this is incorrect)
The time reported in an Xterm window with "date" (as root) is 18:54 EDT  (this is incorrect)
/etc/rc.conf contains:
HARDWARECLOCK="UTC"
TIMEZONE=Europe/London
I seem to be stuck with a 5 hour offset or something when using X.
What on earth is going on?   (BTW this is not a clock drift problem)
It used to work fine but I had difficulties recently trying to change to udev (had to revert to devfs,under kernel 2.6.12-ck5) and have experienced the problem ever since.

Yes I've tried HARDWARECLOCK="localtime" and it makes no difference to the readings above.
The machine is microsoft free so its not that.
Its the difference in the values for different users and the fact that the time is correct, so long as I don't use a window manager, that makes me think its not "clock" related but rather how the clock is interpreted by X.
Maybe there are permission problems on some critical clock related file, although the /usr/share/zoneinfo & /etc/timezone files all look ok.
I just wish I knew which file to edit or which package to reinstall!
BTW which package contains hwclock?

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