Aperture 2 & iBook?

Hello!
I have the latest revision iBook G4 (1,33 GHz) with 1 GB RAM. I have about 12 000 photos in my iPhoto library, but I am not exactly overwhelmed by its performance, one might say. I am trying out Aperture 2 Trial, and find the app much, much better to work with than iPhoto. Thus, I am curious about what you think about the performance and speed? I am going to shoot mostly RAW files. How will Aperture perform on an iBook with about 12 000 photos contrary to iPhoto?
Thanks so much for your help!
Message was edited by: Norway-Sondre

I would be amazed if Aperture ran at all on that G4 iBook. IMO if you did get it to run you would hate the performance.
Sorry
-Allen Wicks

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    Cheers,
    Brige

    I can relate to that--I too am planning on a new MBP to run Aperture or PS some day!
    One other point--it's a good idea to acquire an external hard drive to use with your iPhoto library. It's easy to fill up a lot of hard drive space fast if you take a lot of photos, and this will tend to bog down your iBook. You might find it a good idea to basically keep your entire iPhoto library on the external drive, which would be handy if your iBook dies a sudden and unexpected death, as some have done. There is a ton of info on the iPhoto forum for managing your iPhoto library. By doing this, you can avoid having to buy more RAM for the iBook and have something that will be useful for any computer.
    Good luck, and thank you for the star!

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