Aperture external editor & plugin issue

My Aperture (3.1.2) seems to have developed a problem today
Whilst trying to process using the Photomatix plugin the program seemed to hang with the message 'preparing image.... for editing'
I've tried uninstalling and reinstalling, deleted the Plist and then it worked a couple of times and them stoppped again.
I tried uninstalling again and reinstalling, rebooted the program and computer and its still not working.
I also tried exporting to Photoshop but this appears to have stopped too - sticks at the message about 'prepaing the image for editing' again??
The other plugins seems to work ok but the fact that I cannot export to PS makes me think its more than a Photomatix problem?
Everything worked until today and I don't believe anything has changed
I haven't tried reinstalling Aperture - should I??
Any help or suggestions would be appreciated
Thanks
Steve

feel a bit of a numpty now - the drive where the photos are stored was completely full - all but 33k
deleted a bit and it all started working again, i'd also repaired permissions etc - somewhere in there something reconnected anyway

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