Asset Transfer ABUMN - Depreciation Start Date

We have a problem with when Depreciation begins for an Asset as below:
The Business has transferred Asset A to Asset B via TCode ABUMN.
Asset A deactivated = 17.08.2011
Asset B Asset Value Date = 17.08.2011
Asset B Depn Calculation Start Date = 01.09.2011
When reviewing Depn for Asset B in TCode AW10 u2013 Ordinary Depn will not be posted until the new Financial Year 04.2012.
How is it possible to have Depn post from 01.09.2011 as defined in Depn Calculation Start Date?
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Hi Bernhard
We have a bespoke Period Control / Period Control Method. For Transfers as below:
FV     Per.contr.     Year     Mo     Dy     Per     MidMon
Z1     Z0          01     00     009
Z1     Z0          02     00     010
Z1     Z0          03     00     011
Z1     Z0          04     00     012
Z1     Z0          05     00     001
Z1     Z0          06     00     002
Z1     Z0          07     00     003
Z1     Z0          08     00     004
Z1     Z0          09     00     005
Z1     Z0          10     00     006
Z1     Z0          11     00     007
Z1     Z0          12     00     008
Z1     Z0          12     31     009
In the problem scenario, for Asset A, there hashas been an Asset impairment in P3 FY2011 and this reversed in P5 FY2012. I have a feeling this may be the root of the problem, but as yet I haven't been able to confirm........

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