ATI 128mb All-In-Wonder 9800 pro

Installed a ATI 128mb All-In-Wonder 9800 pro on a k7t turbo2. Works fine with out the 9800 installed. When installed, it wont start. Computer wont even turn on. Wont start up at all if the powersupply is just hooked up to the motherboard and video card. It wont turn on at all. The power supply is a true blue 480 w antec. Im pretty sure it isnt the powersupply. I dont want to upgrade my motherboard right now because of minimal funds. I know that my motherboards max vga is 4x and am willing to have the video card run at that, but just dont know how to do this. Please Help.

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Originally posted by Toenne
Is there an additional 12v-plug on your vga-card? Connected it to the psu?
http://images10.newegg.com/productimage/14-102-297-05.JPG
Ok, if your cable looks at all like that, which it should because that's the exact card you have, then one end goes to the molex on the powersupply and the ohter end goes NOWHERE. That other end is just another version of the molex connecter. It does not and I repeat does not goto to the hard drive.

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http://www.msi.com.tw/program/products/mainboard/mbd/pro_mbd_detail.php?UID=313
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Standard Enhanced PCI to USB Host Controller
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Conflicts/Sharing
Resource Device
I/O Port 0x00000000-0x00000CF7   PCI bus
I/O Port 0x00000000-0x00000CF7   Direct memory access controller
I/O Port 0x000003C0-0x000003DF   SiS Accelerated Graphics Port
I/O Port 0x000003C0-0x000003DF   ALL-IN-WONDER 9800 SERIES
IRQ 18    Realtek AC'97 Audio
IRQ 18    Broadcom 440x 10/100 Integrated Controller
Memory Address 0xA0000-0xBFFFF   PCI bus
Memory Address 0xA0000-0xBFFFF   SiS Accelerated Graphics Port
Memory Address 0xA0000-0xBFFFF   ALL-IN-WONDER 9800 SERIES
I/O Port 0x000003B0-0x000003BB   SiS Accelerated Graphics Port
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