ATP based on an availability date without APO

Hello
we have mateirals that mature/cure for n days. We need to include that n days (availability date) in our ATP at order entry time. we do not have/use APO. Is this possible?? If so can you please share the details of how it can be achieved???
thank you

Linda,
Simplest solution. Do all three of the following. Works in any system, including SAP:
1. Include the mature/cure time in your Total Replenishment lead time.
2. Confirm your orders based upon availability of FGs stock or excess replenishment orders; or lacking those, upon Total replenishment lead time.
3. Do not receive the product into FG stock until the mature/cure time has elapsed.
Rgds,
DB49

Similar Messages

ATP Based on ASCP Planned data - how to exclude Subiventory

We are moving from ATP based on ASCP collected data to ATP based on planned data.
In our major warehouses, we have subinventory 'DOCK' , it is not checked ( not enabled) to Include in ATP, but it is flagged ( enabled ) as Nettable subinventory.
In ATP based on collected data, the on hand balance for this subinventory was not included.
But ATP based on planned data includes on hand balance in this subinventory. This is issue because warehouse takes processing time to bring from DOCK subinventory to warehouse FG subinventory and ATP gives immediately available to customer which in actual is available to customer after two days.
We can not change this subinventory as non-netable then ASCP advises more to bring more supply.
Please advise/help.

Hi Mahesh
I'm not convinced with your assumption and Sandeep's suggestion of adding 2 days of post-processing LT.
You'll notice even ASCP considers this invenotry available right now without any delay unless it shows as 'In Receiving" and not On-Hand. if this shows "In Recieving, even ATP will consider the same due date as suggested by plan.
There are a few options to model this additonal time but each requires some additional maintenance. You'll require an extra level of supply chain bill where you model this inventory one level below final level. This can either be achieved by modelling this as a component while adding a new level in the bill as FG.
Another option may be to default your request date at least today + 2 days thereby making sure ATP never returns today's date. Please note this is more like an honor system as order entry person may override it and can be handled via user training. Again this will work if you always need 2 days before an order can be shipped. If you've a mixed mode scenario where some inventory may be shippable right now, you may be out of luck here.
There are a few more options that may be possible but will require little more one-on-one discussion.
Thanks
Navneet Goel
[email protected]

Getting Error/Note - Scheduling Falied ATP Processing error . Available date 15 may - while Booking SO

Hi All,
we are getting Note "Scheduling Falied ATP Processing error . Available date 15 may" - while Booking SO,
We have checked and found Data collection and ASCP plans also completed normal, and DB links are also fine.
Can there be anther reason for this?
Note - After changing the request date to 15 May also same error exists.
Regards

Hi Kumar,
We also faced same kind of issue where Instance was refreshed after data collection and DB links where not properly set, This can be one of the cause.
Regards

Difference in Material availability date for ECC ATP check & for APO ATP check in the same order

Hi Gurus,
I have a question: on what basis material availability date is calculated in forward scheduling?
Eg:
For a customer GR hours are maintained in unloading point calendar in customer master and Customers are not CIF'ed across to APO.
GR hours are maintained for weekdays from 8:00 to 12:00 & 1:00 to 6:00.
In a sales order with two line items with Requested date today & plenty of stock on hand for two products( ECC & APO) where line 10 (product 1) triggers ECC ATP check & line 20 (product 2) triggers APO ATP check at same location (loc1).
RDD is today, material availability date for ECC ATP check (line 10) is today (working as expected) but where as the material availability date for APO ATP check (line 20)is pushed to next day by which for the same customer there are different delivery dates. And two delivery notes will be created & truck will be on road at different times for the same customer which is unacceptable.
What am I missing here to get the material availability date as today for forward scheduling? Please guide me on this.
Thanks,
Nihar

Hi Nihar
Though the logic you mentioned makes sense. I am confused here with the data you have provided:
UTC day
UTC time
CET day
CET time
UTC+6 day
UTC+6 time
RDD
30/04
17:24
30/04
7:24
30/04
23:24
MAD
30/04
17:24
30/04
7:24
30/04
23:24
Lod/GI
02/05
17:24
02/05
7:24
02/05
23:24
Del
12/05
17:24
12/05
7:24
12/05
23:24
Del
13/05
1:00
13/05
3:00
13/05
8:00
Load/GI
05/05
1:00
05/05
3:00
05/05
8:00
MAD
02/05
1:00
02/05
3:00
02/05
8:00
In the first row, the difference in RDD in UTC and UTC+6 is 6 hours. However, in the last three rows I can see the difference between UTC time and UTC+6 time is 7 hours. Would you know the reason to this? Also, in the first four rows, CET time = 7:24 which should had been 19:24. Please correct me if I am missing something here.
Thanks,
Parth Soneji

Material Availability Date of Sales Order

An issue 1 :
There is material which is GATP relevant and stock is available in APO and R3.When GATP check is performed MAD Date is shown as Current Day +1,where as it should be Current Day only.And this issue happens on Friday only i.e GATP returns Current day as MAD day on other than friday.
An issue 2 :
There are Sales Order already created for a material sat mat1 with availability check code "ZF" in MRP3 tab of material master.The MAD has already been calculated with existing settings through GATP functionality.
What is required that change the availability check code in MRP3 tab of material master to "ZB" and re-check the availability of the already created sales orders in R3.
But what we understand since Sales Order already created for Availability check code "ZF",new changed "ZB" will not impact the ATP check.
An issue 3 ;
What are the settings influence the calulations of MAD in APO and R3.
Is there any way this can be achieved.
Manish

Manish,
First, you will always get better responses in this forum if you enter one issue per post. Many people are unwilling to respond to a multi-question posting.
Issue 1. There are dozens of factors that can contribute to a Material Availability date in APO. Are you using RBA? Allocation? ATP against a forecast? CTP? Transportation Scheduling? etc etc etc......
The most likely reason is that you have an issue with with valid workdays in one of the calendars that affect your GATP check.
Issue 2 - This is mostly an R/3 issue. The practice you call out (change the MM ATP checking group and re-atp the order) is only supported by SAP in a limited way. The easiest way I have found to do this is to open the sales order, remove the plant from the item, and then save the order. Make your changes to the MM. Wait until the MM changes get to SCM. Now, re-open the sales order, and re-enter the plant. If you are lucky, the sales order will re-read the updated MM data, and re-atp the order in SCM using the updated SCM data. Now, re-save the sales order.
By the way, don't think that you can now blithely change the ATP checking group in R/3 back to the old value. You will face additional problems in delivering and shipping the order later. The process I described should only be used to correct an existing MM error.
Also, be aware that any ATP checking group beginning with a 'Z' has been customized for your company. You should contact the local SD expert to see what changes your company had made for these ZD and ZB groups.
Issue 3 - GATP is a large module in SCM. There are many types of checks. Each one has it's own items that can affect MAD (generation of MAD is the prime output of GATP). I couldn't possibly cover them all in a single posting. The standard SAP overview class for GATP is 3 days, and this class doesn't go into much detail. I strongly recommend that you consult with your local GATP functional expert, or consider hiring an expert GATP consultant if you wish to proceed with your development of APO GATP.
Good luck!
Regards,
DB49.

For Dynamic Credit Check replacing Material Availability date with Delivery date

Hi All,
Our client has this requirement, where they want to change the standard SAP functionality which Checks whether a schedule line item in a sales order is with in horizon or not based on "Material Availability Date" VBEP-MBDAT. They want in place of this Delivery date of schedule line should be used i.e. VBEP-EDATU. I did some research and found out that this could be done technically by updating the BADI "BADI_SD_CM".
Now we are stuck as to what needs to be changed? has anybody worked on this kind of requirement before?
Please share your past experience.
Thanks and Regards,
Prateek Maheshwari.

As you know, VBELN-Currency-POSNR-ETENR-MBDAT is standard exposure key of sales order but my ex-colleague changed it into VBELN-Currency-POSNR to compress exposure data for certain CCA.
In this case, of course, that CCA should meet some biz requirements(User-exit. etc) like no partial delivery. etc.... for integrity of exposures..
This case is different because you want to change value of key....and it's Date!!!!
Anyway I think it's techinically possible but it's very risky in live system because existing exposures would be not removed even if delivered, changed, deleted or blocked.
So you have to delete all exposures and rebuild after program changed.
I'm writing it's possible now but I refused when my customer want to change it because I don't have any way to rebuild huge data in live system.

Incorrect material availability date determination

Hello Friends ,
We have one issue with Material availability date . In our system, R/3 fetches the material availability data from APO. We have two materials A & B and for them have enough stock in the plant. We have one FM which determines the material availability date by fetching data from APO . This FM is similar to sales order simulation in VA01 .There are two scenarios here as mentioned below :
1) When i run the FM in the morning to check the material availability date for these two materials then it shows today's date for both the materials.
In Debug mode, committed quantity for both materials is greater than zero .
2) When i run the FM in the evening , output shows today's date as material availability date for material-A while it shows tomorrow's date for material-B.
In Debug mode, committed quantity for material A for today is greater than zero while for B, its equal to zero . Hence FM selects next date as material availability date for B .
There is something related to item level as i have run the FM for both the materials with same customer and plant . In R/3 material master data (MM03) is same for both the materials. Please help me to find out why FM is behaving differently in the evening for the material B.
Regards,
Sandeep

Hi All,
Any hints on this ?
Sandeep

Update Material Availability Date for Sales Order having a Delivery

Dear Gurus,
We have a bit out of the way scenario. There is a o/b delivery already added to a shipment. And then we receive a IDOC from external MES System (i.e. Production) with new material availability date. This new material availability date is updated on Sales Order. In short the order is delayed.
Current Solution:
In this case the user has to remove the delivery from the shipment manually. then the IDOC deletes the delivery and the updates the sales order with new date followed by creation of new delivery.
The business expects to updated the Sales Order material availability date without changing Shipment / delivery. Any solution?
Current solution has to be changed as for Shipment purpose changes are made to delivery which are lost when the delivery is deleted.
Edited by: abhishek singh on Feb 3, 2012 10:21 AM

hi
in this case you have to adopt the business process change.
you have to update the EDI first and then you create delivery.

ATP based on material and capacity availability

Hi Experts,
Is there a way to implement ATP with finite capacity availability and material availability in a Make to stock (MTS) environment in R/3? In other words, when a sales order is created for a material, the confirmation date that is recd. should be based on Capacity and Material availability. What planning strategy would you use?
I understand that this can be implemented in assembled to order environment (planning strategy 82 or 83), but my question is more related to MTS environment.
Regards,
Praveen

Hi Praveen,
SAP recommends APO as a solution for your scenario. Check out their documentation on Capable to Promise (CTP) under
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_scm2007/helpdata/en/64/7294375960a42be10000009b38f8cf/frameset.htm
This is not a trivial implementation. You need to be sure that this is what your business wants before you embark on the change.
Regards,
Bruce

GLOBAL ATP WITHOUT APO

When I was at Sapphire in 2007, SAP demo'd a global ATP from within SD that utilized enhancement pack 1 or 2. Now I need to implement something like this, without using APO. However, I can't find any references to in through Enhancement Pack 3 (our current version). Has anyone seen this done? Basically, if a customer orders an item, then we want to check two distribution centers, then look at stores with either high avaialability/overstock or near-by. Thanks in advance for ideas. I just need leads not a detailed solution.

Christophe
The end objective of GATP is the same as that of regular ECC ATP - provide customers with committed dates and quantities. Having said that, GATP provides a HUUUGE improvement in functionality compared to the ECC ATP check - for example, rules based ATP check for product/ location substitution, multi-level ATP check, capable-to promise, etc.
Because of these dramatic improvements in functionality, GATP has the potential to do a lot more than order promising - depending on the business requirement, it can reduce inventory, improve customer service, improve fill rates, ....
GATP is executed in the APO system and is a module of APO. Best place to start with documentation is SAP help.
Rishi Menon

Material Availability date differs in R/3 & APO

Hi,
We are facing Issue with Material Avaialbility date for Planner order/Manufacturing Order in R/3 and APO.
We are using a Master Recipe for PDS Creation in APO which consists on 9-10 different operations, out of which only inbetween operation 4-5-6 is scheduled in APO.
So in APO Other Operations are not availble in PDS and hence not considered for scheduling as required. Also GR Processing Time is maintained on Product Master for which infinite Capcity Handling resource in created in APO.
When we schedule Operations in APO, the Scheduled dates for Operation 4-5-6 is sent back to R/3 and for other Operations based on relationship maintained takes addistional 1-2 Days.
In R/3 Availability Date for Planner Order/Manufacturing Order is calculating by adding a GR time after Operation 10 end time, while in APO as ony operation 4-5-6 is available a GR time is added after Operation 6, which is resulting in Differnet availability date for Order in R/3 and APO.
Kindly suggets a way to same date in R/3 and APO, if anyone has faced same Issue.
Thanks for your Help !!!

Hi Senthil,
I completly understand, that APO Material Availability date is GR end Date while in R/3 its a Process Order end date.
But Problem is not that.
Problem is not all operation of Process order are in APO, so assume u have 5 operations in Process order out of which only first 3 are relevant for schedulilng in APO. So APO schedules these 3 Operation and adds the GR time to Show the avaiablity date.
While in R/3 GR Time is added after end of Operation 5 which is right, so GR end date in R/3 and APO dont match.
Let me know if you think some more on this...!!!
Thanks and Appreciated !!!

SNP planned order availability date difference between APO and ECC

Hi,
I have observed that SNP Planned order availability date is not matching between APO and ECC. Details are as follows.
I ran SNP Optimizer with bucket offset of 0.5. After publishing the optimizer created planned orders to ECC, only start date is matching.
Example:
I am using PDS as a source of supply.
Fixed production activity in SNP PDS is 1 day.
GR processing time: 3 day
After running optimizer planned order is created with dates explained below.
Start date/time: 09.05.2011 00:00:00
End date/time: 12.05.2011 23:59:59
Availability date: 16.05.2011 00:00:00
Because of bucket offset defined as 0.5 optimizer planned order availability is start of next monday.
After publishing this planned order to ECC dates on the planned order is as follows.
Start date: 09.05.2011
End date: 09.05.2011
Availability date: 12.05.2011
I have not maintained any scheduling margin key in ECC. Also if I dont define the GR processing time, planned dates between APO and ECC always match. Can anyone explain the impact of GR time on the availability date.
Regards,
Venkat

Hi Venkadesh,
What's "state stamp"? Do you mean different time zone?
note : 645597 mentioned by Nandha is very helpful:
In standard, CCR will use duedate - "the available date of the output product".
Nandha's words "In SAP APO, if the receipt date of the primary product deviates from the
end date of the last activity of the order, the receipt date
always identifies this as inconsistent. You cannot rectify
inconsistencies of this type by using CCR."
I guess in your PDS or PPM, the output product is not assigned to the End of the last activity. Someone changed it?
Please CIF the PDS or PPM again.
If you really want to apply a note, please use note 815509 as you're using planned order,
and system will use order end date in CCR instead.
GR time is always considered. BR/Tiemin

Sending New Requirement date to APO before saving the sales order in ECC

Hi Experts,
i have a requirement where while creation of sales order, when user enters the requirement date,i have to calculate the new requirement date ( adding transit time and other time ) and send it to APO , to bring the ATP result based on this new calculated date.
This new calculated date is getting saved in Z field in VBAP table and also this new requirement date which has to be pass to APO is getting calculated while saving the doucment i.e. at user exit - USEREXIT_SAVE_DOCUMENT_PREPARE.
Now, i am not sure, how i should pass this new date to APO , which FM , Badi or BAPI would be used ?
Please help and let me know if i am supposed to detailed it a little more.
Thanks.

Hi Bharat,
Normally the new calculated requirement/delivery date will be updated in APO through the CIF.
However you can influence the transfer with enhancement CIFSLS03 (influence sales-order-specific data directly before it is sent to SAP APO available on ECC side).
Please see the below description.
Thanks.
Regards, Marius
In this enhancement, you can transfer customer-order-specific data to SAP
APO.
The associated component EXIT_SAPLCSLS_002 provides you with tables that are
required for the transfer. In particular, these are:
Requirements table ET_SL_REQ
Item table ET_SL_DOC
Field catalog ET_ATPFIELD
You can use this exit to create or change documents in the ERP system as well
as for the initial data transfer.
The data is transferred to SAP APO after this exit is called.
Notes
If you use program /SAPAPO/CIF_DELTAREPORT3, you have to add the
corresponding logic to function module EXIT_SAPLCID3_001. For more information,
see the documentation for
enhancement CIFCID3.
Programs /SAPAPO/CIF_DELTAREPORT and /SAPAPO/CIF_DELTAREPORT2 also run this
exit.

Network based and a-gps, data use tests

i was trying to find this kind of info, but only found others asking.
i hope this is useful info for others, especially while roaming.
skip to the bottom for conclusion,
this is the process i took:
i called nokia tech support,
their phone support his horrible,
the people on the phone don't actually know anything, and have to look up everything you ask them.
they were the worst.
i emailed nokia tech support.
my message was:
"i would like to know the difference between assisted gps positioning, and network based positioning. these are 2 of the 4 options on my nokia e66 for positioning methods. i would like to know if network based positioning uses internet data from my service provider to obtain my gps position. i am especially concerned with this function while i'm roaming internationally, as i do not want to be charged for roaming data use."
in about half hour they responded w/ an answer, and then 45 min after that someone else responded w/ an answer.
the first response, minus the hello's etc. was:
"In response to your email, Assisted GPS and Network Based positioning methods generate costs related to data traffic so you will be charged for data use. Only "normal" GPS and Bluetooth GPS do not generate additional costs related to data traffic.
Normal GPS is quite slow and does not work indoors. Therefore, it is recommended to enable at least A-GPS to get a faster position outdoors.
Network based and Wi-Fi positioning also allow you to update your position inside buildings, but they cannot be used for navigation."
the 2nd response was:
"In response to your inquiry, the difference between Assisted GPS positioning (A-GPS) and Network based positioning is that, A-GPS uses satellites while Network based positioning is based on information of your cellular network environment. It allows you to update your position inside buildings, but they cannot be used for navigation. Both positioning methods generate costs related to data traffic (unless you have configured the device to use Wi-Fi connection to make the internet connection). The cost may vary while you are on roaming. Kindly contact the service provider for information about data transmission costs."
i can also respond w/ more questions, but instead did some tests, starting with sitting home, indoors, and eventualy moving to a window w/ lots of sky.
test 1:
i enabled:
integrated gps
network based
assisted gps
opened maps,
set maps to be offline,
set default internet access point to my home wlan network,
closed maps,
cleared all counters and the log on the phone's communication log.
opened maps
there is a pink circle around the area i may be in,
the icon that would show gps satellite strength, changes to show the cell phone antenna icon.
but the packet data counter is sending/receiving a total of around 3-8kb immediately, and over the course of time, it keeps adding up, every 1-2 minutes, and it is shown as packet data to/from the access point "at&t internet"
over the course of ten minutes, it's been about 43kb.
and i can tell on the phone's home screen that the packet data connection becomes active when it does.
the maps kb indicator still says 0.0kb, with a line through the double arrow packet data symbol.
test 2:
now i exited maps,
cleared the counters and logs
i turned off a-gps.
enabled only integrated gps and network based.
i open maps,
the same thing is happening as with the assisted gps on, except i connected to my home wlan once, in the middle of connecting to at&t internet 10 or so times.
everything else is happening the same.
test 3:
i exited maps,
cleared the counters and logs.
enabled only integrated gps.
i open maps, and there is no evidence of packet data connection, or wlan connection.
nothing is showing up in the logs or packet counters, and there is no pink circle around where i may be.
if i set maps to go online, w/ my wlan as the access point, or at&t internet, their respective icons show up on maps, as well as the phone's home screen.
the phone's log show respective connections are made but w/ 0.0kb, and the phone's packet counter, as well as the maps kb usage, say 0.0kb.
test 4:
set maps to offline, w/ my wlan as access point.
exited maps,
turned phone off for a bit to test gps from cold start.
turned on phone,
cleared counters/logs,
enabled only assisted gps and integrated gps.
open maps, there's no pink circle around where i may be, just the red dot of where it thought i last was.
there's about 4-5kb of data transfer,
then i bring the phone to the window where there's a lot of clear sky, and my location is found pretty fast.
i know that w/o assisted gps, w/ only integrated gps, it takes a while to get the gps signals.
i went back and forth to/from the window, and there was packet data use again only once more, not continuously like w/ network based positioning.
so to conclude my tests,
setting the maps to be offline, still uses a-gps and network based positioning.
network based uses a more data, continuously,
which is the opposite of what i thought, i thought a-gps would use more, so i was using network based on and a-gps off while in canada. whoops.
using assisted gps uses about 5-10kb, which, when roaming, according to at&t, they charge 1.95cents/kb.
might be worthwhile for getting a quick gps signal, nothing worse than waiting forever for it to connect.
the only way to be completely clear of data use is disable network based and assisted gps, or set the phone to offline mode.

A-GPS: This uses information from cell network to get a rough idea of where you are. It then uses this information to figure out which satellites to look for. Result is a faster satellite lock. So A-GPS uses a few kB of data to get an initial position, but navigation is done using GPS satellites, which does not require ANY data connection.
Network based: This uses information from the cell network to plot the current position when GPS satellite signal is not available, ie indoors, in a tunnel, etc. Position info derived from the cell network is not as accurate as that from GPS satellites, but serves as a stopgap until GPS signal can be re-acquired. Network based positioning used your data connection EACH TIME the satellite lock is lost. So the amount of data used is dependent on the quality of access you have to the GPS satellites. If you don't lose the connection to the GPS satellites, then you won't use any data.
The ‘offline’ option within the Nokia Maps app only refers to street, POI, etc searches, NOT to A-GPS, Network based positioning or to connecting with the GPS satellites.
If you want to navigate without using ANY data connection, set A-GPS off AND set Network based positioning off AND set the Internet option in Nokia Maps to Offline. Do this and you will not use any of your data connection allowance when navigating. There is no need to put the phone into flight mode.
If I've helped you, you can thank me by clicking the green 'kudos' star on my post. Cheers.

Material Availability Date and Corresponding Basic finish date

Hi experts,
I have one requirement from my Business for updating Basic Finish date based on the Material availability date
Requirement goes like this, When we enter a Component of 100 qty in the service order , if stock is not available we get system status as MSPT and IWBK we can see how much quantity confirmed
But i dont see any table or report which shows when this material can be available for further delivery. Based on the next available material date i have to change the basic finish date in the service Order
Please let me know if you any report available for this or any standard approach. I want to know if any exist to leverage this functionality and logic how to get this accomplished
thanks
sarvan

Sarvan,
You would need to perform this check when saving the work order as there could be multiple components all with differing ATP dates.
But a development could do something like:
Read all active/open components/materials on the work order
Determine the availability data for each component/material
Determine the latest of the above dates
Apply this date to the order Basic Finish Date
You would need to ensure your scheduling parameters do not set this date back to its original value (OPU7).
You could achiev the above through user-exit IWO10009 (SMOD) or BADI WORKORDER_UPDATE (SE18).
PeteA

ATP based on an availability date without APO

Similar Messages

Maybe you are looking for