Billing without invoice verification

Hello Experts,
In 3rd party sales, there is MIRO transaction used for invoice verification. What happens if Reseller or customer is billed without invoice verification?
Is there a process to handle this?
regards
M Russo

Hi
It is set in the copy control for billing documents and the check is already there for third party.
Further you can write your own logic in the custom routine in copy control to prvent the system to copy the data in the subsiquent document, checking the reference to previous document.
For referencing of docuement you can use table VBFA to make link.
Hope this helps you.
Best Regards
Raghu

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